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Birther faces court martial for refusing deployment orders
Yahoo! News ^ | Dec. 14, 2010 | Jade Walker

Posted on 12/14/2010 6:13:53 AM PST by SvenMagnussen

A court martial proceeding against an 18-year Army veteran who refuses to deploy to Afghanistan will begin today at Fort Meade in Maryland.

According to The Associated Press, Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin disobeyed orders to report to a Kentucky base earlier this year because he doubts whether President Barack Obama was born in the United States and questions his eligibility to be president. Click here to view the charges.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: army; birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; lakin; longform; military; naturalborncitizen; obama

1 posted on 12/14/2010 6:14:00 AM PST by SvenMagnussen
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To: SvenMagnussen

God supports those who seek the truth!

Pray that the Holy Spirit surrounds the attorneys for the Lakin side. He is walking a tough road this week.


2 posted on 12/14/2010 6:17:20 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SvenMagnussen

To be consistent, he should have refused orders before the deployment ones, and since. By cherry-picking what he will and will not consider legitimate orders, he has torpedoed his case.


3 posted on 12/14/2010 6:17:37 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2642379/posts#comment


4 posted on 12/14/2010 6:17:37 AM PST by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: SvenMagnussen

I get why he’s doing this, but refusing deployment to a conflict that precedes 0bama opens a Pandora’s box we don’t need.


5 posted on 12/14/2010 6:20:16 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Yahoo lies like the rest of the New World Order sycophants. Lt Col. Lakin is a true patriot and a hero.


6 posted on 12/14/2010 6:20:18 AM PST by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: ScottinVA

You have to dig at the truth however you can. LTC Lakin is a hero. Bigger guts than most. I admire him.


7 posted on 12/14/2010 6:23:53 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SvenMagnussen
As i have mentioned before on this site, I believe our enemies would claim that any US military personnel they capture would be acting under illegal orders and are therefore not subject to the POW protections of the Geneva Conventions.

Our enemies don't need a reason to mistreat our personnel, I know. But why add the extra risk?

As for Col. Lakin, I assume he has decided that rotting in prison would be preferable to following orders that his alleged Commander-In-Chief has taken great pains to refuse to prove are validly issued.

Thanks for all responses, and flames, in advance.

8 posted on 12/14/2010 6:28:45 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: LucyT; STARWISE; onyx; rxsid

FYI


9 posted on 12/14/2010 6:36:37 AM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: cvq3842

Lt. Col. Lakin will not rot in jail. He will become a ‘Cause Celebre’ and will be a rally point in the House of Representatives for Obama to demonstrate how he is constitutionally eligible to be POTUS.

Darryl Issa would be remiss not to subpoena Factcheck.org and the HDOH to confront Obama on his papers.

“A Disappearing Act & Eyeball Tricks”

http://obamasgarden.wordpress.com/2010/12/


10 posted on 12/14/2010 6:39:55 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: SvenMagnussen

One can hope for “jury nullification”.


11 posted on 12/14/2010 6:42:30 AM PST by Does so (Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.)
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To: SvenMagnussen; LucyT

Thanks Sven a true hero for the CONSTITUTION and pinging:!!!

Plus standing, or.....NON-standing???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p4PWvH_g70&feature=player_embedded#!


12 posted on 12/14/2010 6:57:29 AM PST by danamco (")
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I certainly hope you are right!


13 posted on 12/14/2010 7:10:09 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: SvenMagnussen

He’s not allowed discovery or witnesses. This stinks to high heaven!


14 posted on 12/14/2010 7:22:59 AM PST by MissTed ( Do women in burqas have fun tagging each other in Facebook photos?)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Lt. Col. Lakin will not rot in jail. He will become a ‘Cause Celebre’ and will be a rally point in the House of Representatives for Obama to demonstrate how he is constitutionally eligible to be POTUS.

Darryl Issa would be remiss not to subpoena Factcheck.org and the HDOH to confront Obama on his papers.

“A Disappearing Act & Eyeball Tricks”

http://obamasgarden.wordpress.com/2010/12/

10 posted on 12/14/2010 6:39:55 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike


I would like to believe that your assumptions are correct. However, I do not know of a single congressman who has spoken out in support of LTC Lakin, nor any congressman who has promised an investigation of BO’s illegitimate presidency. Do you know of any?


15 posted on 12/14/2010 7:51:00 AM PST by FS11
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To: SvenMagnussen

Until the Supreme Court tosses Obama out on his ear, he is the CIC. No matter how one feels about him personally, if one is in the military, one must obey the orders of the CIC.


16 posted on 12/14/2010 8:01:31 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: FS11
We will find out in January.

The new Congress will need to send Obama with a bill that reinstates all of Lakins pay and Benefits the day after they get sworn in. They need to ram it up his Kenyan/Indo/British hole every week until he signs or comes clean with a BC.

17 posted on 12/14/2010 8:29:21 AM PST by PA-RIVER ( POTUS is a dishonest disrespectful POS who can't come clean with the Constitution)
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To: PA-RIVER

We will find out in January.
The new Congress will need to send Obama with a bill that reinstates all of Lakins pay and Benefits the day after they get sworn in. They need to ram it up his Kenyan/Indo/British hole every week until he signs or comes clean with a BC.

17 posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:29:21 AM by PA-RIVER


I know that is what they need to do but the fact is that no one in congress has shown any interest in LTC Lakin’s case.


18 posted on 12/14/2010 8:38:13 AM PST by FS11
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To: hoosiermama; penelopesire; maggief; SE Mom; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; ...
*Excerpt*

"Almost every base and military organization has a chain of command board like this."

Prayers up for Ltc Lakin, his family and his legal team.

19 posted on 12/14/2010 8:41:34 AM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: All

Lakin court-martial dishonors military
Alan Keyes - December 10, 2010

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=237841


20 posted on 12/14/2010 8:44:07 AM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Lt. Col. Lakin will not rot in jail.

Agreed, President Palin will pardon him. Hopefully on her first day.

21 posted on 12/14/2010 8:59:27 AM PST by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: hoosiermama; onyx; SE Mom; maggief; penelopesire; Liz; SandRat; Danae; butterdezillion; ...
A public statement from Commander Charles Kerchner regarding Lt. Col. Terry Lakin's upcoming court-martial.
For Immediate Release - December 10, 2010 -

Comment from CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret):

I will be attending the scheduled Court Martial of LTC Terry Lakin on Tuesday, 14 Dec 2010 at Ft. Meade MD, to show my support for this brave man who is courageously standing up and risking all to live up to his oath to support and defend the U.S. Constitution, the prime directive to guide the actions and decisions of every commissioned military officer and patriot.

The oath for military officers is not to support and defend the President or any man, but to support and defend the Constitution the fundamental law put in place by the founders and framers to protect our unalienable rights against all enemies foreign and domestic. The Congress failed to do their duty.

The main stream media has failed to do its duty. The legal system and federal courts including the U.S. Supreme Court have failed to do their duty. We are supposed to be a nations of laws, not men. And no man in our system is to be above the law, not even a President.

These people and the institutions have been acting to protect one man, Obama, from being required to provide conclusive primary source, certified true and correct copies of the contemporaneous documents of his birth records and other records such as college admission records and travel and passport records to answer some simple questions about his early life and true legal identity.

A digital image on the internet of an alleged secondary source and summary document in the age of PhotoShop is proof of nothing. No one in the major media with independent expert document examiners has been even allowed to see the alleged piece of paper that image was allegedly made from.

These people and institutions are acting to protect a man, one man, Obama, who has held himself out to be above the law. They have not been acting to protect the U.S. Constitution which they should be defending. LTC Terry Lakin is doing his duty and standing up for his oath to the Constitution.

I will be there on Tuesday at Ft. Meade MD to support him in his fight.

CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret)
Lehigh Valley PA USA
http://www.ProtectOurLiberty.org

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LTC Terry Lakin court martial, CDR Charles Kerchner and Captain Pamela Barnett will attend, Obama and Army on trial

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Tuesday, December 14, 2010

7:45 AM- CDR Kerchner arrived on base yesterday and spoke to LTC Lakin. More later today.

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LTC La(k)in sitrep
December 14, 2010

0745.

Neal Puckett advises LTC La(k)in will plead guilty to some of the Article 92 violations

22 posted on 12/14/2010 9:03:23 AM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

Makes me sick to my stomach to see BO’s picture up there. Will be saying a prayer for Lt. Col. Lakin and his attorneys.


23 posted on 12/14/2010 9:07:28 AM PST by azishot (MERRY CHRISTMAS !!!!)
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To: STARWISE

I hate it that he’s going to plead guilty to any of these.

Especially since if Puckett was worth his salt he’d be arguing that these charges are outside the scope of Article 92. But Puckett isn’t supposed to be trying to win this, or even trying to make sure things are done in a procedurally correct manner. He’s just supposed to get this over with, because there is no expectation of justice from the United States military.

That kills me to say that. There is no expectation of justice from the United States military.

As Kerchner says, the US military is on trial tomorrow, and it is almost certain that they will be found heinously guilty.


24 posted on 12/14/2010 9:09:09 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Gondring

That’s a load of crap. When there are questions about the lawfulness of the orders you obey the orders while initiating an inquiry regarding the lawfulness. Lakin only disobeyed orders when it was obvious to him that the United States military was never going to actually investigate the lawfulness of the orders. At that point he was in no-man’s-land just as if he was left stranded in the middle of the desert on his own. The United States military ABSOLUTELY AND UTTERLY FAILED THEIR DUTY AND FAILED AN HONORABLE MAN.

It was only when Lakin knew he was on his own (because the entire military structure was derelict in their duties) that Lakin disobeyed orders. Until then he was using the procedures he was supposed to use. When the military abandoned him he had no choice but to use his own discretion and conscience regarding the lawfulness of the orders - just as a person sent into enemy territory with no orders of engagement is forced to make difficult decisions.


25 posted on 12/14/2010 9:15:12 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: MEGoody

I just got done watching “Valkyrie” for the first time yesterday. The first part is the sound of the German military members swearing obedience and loyalty to the Fuhrer.

Lieutenant Colonel Terrance Lakin made a vow not to “Der Fuhrer” but to the United States Constitution.

And that Constitution (20th Amendment) says that if the President elect “fails to qualify” by Jan 20th, the VP elect is to “act as President until a President shall have qualified”.

The Hawaii DOH has confirmed in 3 different ways that the Factcheck COLB is a forgery, and has made a statutory admission that the BC they have for Obama is not legally valid because it was amended in 2006. There has not been a legal determination of EVEN how old Obama is. His age is legally undocumented at this point.

How could he have “qualified” when nobody can even legally state what age he is?


26 posted on 12/14/2010 9:21:02 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Does so

One can hope for “jury nullification”.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That would mean no appeals and no risk of Obama having to release documents.

Hm?...I won’t be a bit surprised if jury nullification happened.


27 posted on 12/14/2010 9:23:20 AM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: butterdezillion
How could he have “qualified” when nobody can even legally state what age he is?

Obama may well not be qualified to be President. I happen to believe he's not. But the courts haven't found that to be the case as yet. Until that happens, the soldiers are obligated to follow his orders. (And please don't use the Fuhrer analogy. No one is arguing that Obama asked the guy to do something immoral like kill all Jews.)

If we are going to allow individual soldiers to determine in their own view whether or not the President is qualified to hold that position, then we have to excuse the behavior of any soldier who refused to follow orders because Bush was "selected" instead of elected.

28 posted on 12/14/2010 9:42:06 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: SvenMagnussen
Prayers up for this truly brave American hero who is taking the hard path of righteousness that millions of others are too afraid to tread.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

29 posted on 12/14/2010 11:10:25 AM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: STARWISE

And every time I see that picture, I want to puke my guts out.


30 posted on 12/14/2010 2:17:30 PM PST by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: roaddog727

I can only imagine.
God bless America.


31 posted on 12/14/2010 3:44:58 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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