Posted on 12/15/2010 10:45:27 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
I worded it poorly. I should have said a reduction in spuper salty water due to much less freezing of surface ice, thereby resulting in much less sinking of super salty water and thereby causing slowing of the NAO circulation.
I also worded poorly. The NAO is actually atmospheric, not oceanic. But I brought it up because it is keeping the Arctic warmer this year. But I don’t think it is so much warmer to have a major effect on ice.
It makes me mad every time I hear about them trying to forecast the future climate, that's not science, especially when you don't understand any of the variables or if you completely miss certain key variables.
It occurs to me that the very nature of creating computer models to predict climate is a means to look like you're doing something with government grant money.
You can put in any group of numbers and out pops a hockey stick! OMG! Global warming! Climate change! Need more money to study!
Yeah, it's a perpetuating scam and you don't have to really do anything but punch in garbage to come up with neat looking doom-graphs that prove more money is needed to study it.
Well, they sort of have. Some scientists claim that we are long overdue for the start of the next ice age (by a few thousand years), but that the start of it has been prevented by the human discovery of large-scale irrigated farming (specifically of rice). Turns out that rice fields pump out large quantities of methane (which is a FAR more potent greenhouse gas than CO2), which they postulate has actually prevented the onset of the NIA.
Well, no...leave a car in the sun with the windows rolled up, and you'll have an example of the greenhouse effect.
To be technical I guess we are talking about NADW (North Atlantic Deep Water)
A greenhouse is a better example, because it is the humidity in the greenhouse that helps mitigate temperatures.
An enclosed car is more like a description of the gas laws, but with temperature as the only variable. Hotter outside equals hotter inside.
The atmosphere is not a limited, closed system. Half the Earth is in darkness when the other half is in light, and humidity and water, both in the air and bodies of water, can both reflect radiation back into space and trap it near the surface. High clouds tend to trap heat, and low clouds tend to reflect radiation back out into space.
can anyone say...
Eyjafjallajokull
I was taught by an Icelander:
A-ya
Feeyatla (the t is kind of a rolling d/t sound)
yokul
Glad to be of service. ;o)
Looks like I picked a good year to buy a snow blower...beat the rush and all that.
The high desert above the Cajon Pass had a few inches over the New Year Holiday.
errr...Not me.
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