Posted on 12/16/2010 9:47:45 AM PST by rabscuttle385
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...but federal staffers, along with millions of state and local public employees, won't get the tax holiday included in legislation that jumped a procedural hurdle in the Senate on Monday.
At the same time, those federal workers, the ones covered by the Civil Service Retirement System, are facing a two-year pay freeze, as are most government employees.
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The result: About 426,000 federal workers covered by CSRS would pay more in taxes next year, while most Americans pay less.
That doesn't sound fair to Joseph A. Beaudoin, president of the National Active and Retired Federal Employees Association. "Offering relief to all workers - both retirees of the private or public sectors - is a matter of equity," he said in a letter to senators.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
They can all piss up a rope.
Well, I am covered by CSRS, and I have no problem with this. We have done quite well under CSRS. It was a remarkably generous retirement program.
FERS covers the overwhelming majority of federal employees. They pay Social Security.
I’m not positive, but I believe most federal employees are now under the FERS retirement system (since the 1980s?). The CSRS is the old system, and I would guess it was defined benefit, and covers people hired before the system change. FERS people *do* contribute to SS (and have a defined contribution plan like a 401k).
Just trying to clarify a little info here, we know how accurate the press aims to be. ;)
They can all piss up a rope......
Into the wind with a surface temp of about 6 degrees & a wind speed of about 20 mph.
Ha! I’m too slow! Thanks. :)
At the same time, I am a Fed and even I get sick and tired of the whining. Some of these folks see their jobs as an entitlement and whine like children when anyone gets anything more than they do. So we had a pay freeze - boo, effin' hoo! I consider myself damn lucky to have a job and am GLAD I didn't get a raise. I'm doing fine - there are people out there - good people who have worked hard - who don't know if they can pay next month's rent. Some of these folks need to get a life!
Marie, muawiyah is correct, CSRS was terminated in 1987 and all new federal employees were hired under the FERS system. FERS is a combination of individuals paying FULL social security deduction and contributing upto 10% of their salary to the Thrift Savings Plan, which is the federal version of a 401K plan.
"That doesn't sound fair to Joseph A. Beaudoin, president of the National Active and Retired Federal Employees Association. "Offering relief to all workers - both retirees of the private or public sectors - is a matter of equity," he said in a letter to senators."
Mr Joseph, I think this falls in the "tough shit" category if I am not mistakien. The rest of us are FORCED to pay into the protection racket known as "Socialist Security"...
It’s not fair. WAH!!! I didn’t get the tax break for the child tax credit, because my children are over 17. I’m being discriminated against. Where do I sign up to whine, complain, sue, and generally make a nuisance of myself? Where’s my union rep for people whose kids got older? There should be legislation. I’m calling my congresscritter. Everyone who has kids should get the tax credit, regardless of their age. /s
Is your SS payment a tax that is used to fund current spending or a contribution into some sort of pension plan? If you believe it is contribution then you should side with the gov workers since the gov workers are seeing their pension contribution increase while yours is going down.
However if you see SS as a tax that does not invest you in a pension then you should tell the gov workers to shut up since they are funding a real pension and real pension contributions do not present a reduction in income.
A lot of state programs are even more generous.
Then none of those state programs will be more generous than the old CSRS, or even the current FERS program!
The states I monitor suck. Cut-backs, furloughs, hiring freezes....their staff are begging for jobs in the federal agencies.
I was hired under FERS, and I will never complain about my job. I get a regular paycheck, insurance, TSP, parking, subsidized mass transit........I work my ass off, but its worth it.
GOVERNMENT WORKERS DO NOT PAY TAXES!
Their pay is made with taxes collected from the private sector. Any deduction from their pay is simply government taking back taxpayer moneys to create the illusion of taxes.
Oh yeah real funny. Just less money going into the economy. This is not conservative behavior cheerleading for people to pay more taxes. How tragic people on here have become.
I appreciate you. Wish more of our “public servants” had your atttitude.
I’m a Fed too and get sick of the whinning. No one at my site has complained, most employees here would give up a raise to secure more for the military employees.
I am grateful, I love my job and work my tail off. I’d love to know just who amoung the ranks IS complaining though.
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