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What's wrong with No Labels?
The New Republic ^ | 12/16/10 | E.J. Dionne Jr.

Posted on 12/17/2010 5:47:16 AM PST by randita

What's wrong with No Labels?

E.J. Dionne Jr. December 16, 2010 | 12:00 am

WASHINGTON—The "No Labels" group that held its inaugural meeting this week in the name of the political center fills me with passionate ambivalence. My attitude is moderately supportive and moderately critical—accented by a moderate touch of cynicism.

Who can disagree with a call to put aside "petty partisanship" and embrace "practical solutions"? Let's cheer the group's insistence on "fact-based discussions." Too much political talk these days is utterly disconnected from what's actually true. Fact-based always beats fantasy-based.

The No Labelers are also right to be repulsed by the replacement of real argument with a vicious brand of name-calling. When a president of the United States is attacked simultaneously as an "extreme liberal liar" and a "Nazi," there is a sick irrationality at work in our discourse.

And, heck, full disclosure requires me to acknowledge that in 1991, I wrote a book called "Why Americans Hate Politics" in which I extolled "the great American middle" that represented "the restive majority."

"This great American middle felt cheated by our politics for most of the last 30 years," I argued. "In liberalism it saw a creed that demeaned its values; in conservatism it saw a doctrine that shortchanged its interests."

I still like those lines, so what's my problem with these neo-restive-majority types?

The basic difficulty arises from a false equivalence they make between our current "left" and our current "right." The truth is that the American right is much farther from anything that can fairly be described as "the center" than is the left.

Indeed, there is no far left to speak of anymore. Even among socialists—I'm talking about real ones—almost all now acknowledge the benefits of markets, no longer propose state ownership of the means of production, and accept the inevitability of inequalities in wealth and income. What they oppose is the rise of extreme inequalities that are antithetical to both a healthy democracy and a healthy market economy.

In the meantime, large parts of the right have moved to positions that Ronald Reagan didn't dare take, or abandoned in the name of realism: voucherizing Medicare, partially privatizing Social Security, insisting that the New Deal represented an unconstitutional power grab, and eviscerating inheritance taxes and progressive income taxes.

So successful has the right been in dragooning the discourse that President Obama's health care plan, a rewrite of middle-of-the-road Republican ideas from 15 years ago, is condemned as radical. His overall program and his rhetoric are more restrained than FDR's, Harry Truman's, or LBJ's.

I am still devoted to moderation but reject a cult of the center that defines as good anything that can be called bipartisan. Some of the same centrists who just a few weeks ago called for bipartisan efforts to slash the deficit now praise Obama's tax deal with Republicans, even though it increases the very same deficit by around $900 billion. Exactly what principle is at work here other than a belief that any deal blessed by Republicans deserves praise?

The No Labelers' core problem was illustrated by Politico's Ben Smith, who noted that they opened their New York City meeting "with just one label largely absent: Republican."

The few Republicans present were admirable people driven from their party by the right wing. Reps. Mike Castle of Delaware and Bob Inglis of South Carolina lost primaries this year, and Gov. Charlie Crist of Florida ran for the Senate as an independent. They were joined by New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg, the ex-semi-Republican, and former Rep. Tom Davis of Virginia, who declined to run for the Senate in 2008 when the GOP chose to pick its candidate through a convention destined to be dominated by ultra-conservatives.

Moderation, very much alive on the center-left and among Democrats, is so dead in the Republican Party and on the right that even a staunch conservative such as David Frum, a former George W. Bush speechwriter and No Labels co-founder, is an apostate. He was too quick to raise questions about Sarah Palin's qualifications and dares to think that Republicans need to get serious about problems such as health care.

The No Labelers can yet be a constructive force if they remind us of how extreme the right has become and help broker an alliance between the center and the left, the only coalition that can realistically stop an ever more zealous brand of conservatism. But they will have to admit that labels aren't the real problem. What lies behind them is.

E.J. Dionne, Jr. is the author of the recently published Souled Out: Reclaiming Faith and Politics After the Religious Right. He is a Washington Post columnist, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, and a professor at Georgetown University.


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Indeed, there is no far left to speak of anymore.
1 posted on 12/17/2010 5:47:19 AM PST by randita
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To: randita

LOLOL.......so what are they going to do........change their names and join up incognito?

All we have to do is see eeeeejjjjjjjjDionne and we KNOW!!!


2 posted on 12/17/2010 5:49:20 AM PST by Carley (ISRAEL.......NOT SO ALONE!!!)
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To: randita
It's labelist...

(I.e., absurd...)

3 posted on 12/17/2010 5:50:35 AM PST by LRS ("This is silly! It can't be! It can't be!!" "Oh yes it is! I said you wouldn't know the joint.")
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....it sprang up AFTER commielibs got roughed up on NOV2nd...like ACORN a different name,but agenda the same.


4 posted on 12/17/2010 5:50:40 AM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: randita
Marxist
Communist
Socialist
Progressive
Fascist
Liberal
Democrat
Progressive
No-Label

We see what you're doing here.

5 posted on 12/17/2010 5:51:28 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: randita
A brief history of rebranding:

Communist

Socialist

Democrat

Liberal

Progressive

No Label

la plus ca change

6 posted on 12/17/2010 5:53:43 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: randita
"there is no far left to speak of anymore" LOLOL!! bull-SKITE!! Now they call it "the democrat paty base"







7 posted on 12/17/2010 5:54:49 AM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (Leftys who zone in on Palin miss the point. America's not about single figures. That's for NK/Cuba.)
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...insisting that the New Deal represented an unconstitutional power grab,...

It was. The courts said so. Roosevelt then threatened to pack the USSC to get his way.

8 posted on 12/17/2010 5:56:42 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: randita

These goons are just one more tentacle the socialist octopus. The only Thing new here is that they aren’t fooling anyone now.


9 posted on 12/17/2010 5:58:10 AM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: randita

Self proclaiming oneself as a moderate is no different than saying “I’m the one who’s always right.”


10 posted on 12/17/2010 5:59:10 AM PST by fruser1
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
I like it. I just add marxist & national socialist to that list.

Communist
Marxist
Socialist
National Socialist
Democrat
Liberal
Progressive No-Label
11 posted on 12/17/2010 5:59:20 AM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (Leftys who zone in on Palin miss the point. America's not about single figures. That's for NK/Cuba.)
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To: facedown
"...The truth is that the American right is much farther from anything that can fairly be described as "the center" than is the left...."

Stopped reading right there. This is a flat-out lie.

12 posted on 12/17/2010 6:01:27 AM PST by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: randita
"If you choose not to decide you still have made a Choice."

A group by any other name is still a group.

13 posted on 12/17/2010 6:02:04 AM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: randita

E.J.Dionne...just as irrelevant as ever! The left is mainstream, the right is extremist and now that conservatives are asserting themselves again the primary call of DIonne and his ilk is for bipartisanship!


14 posted on 12/17/2010 6:04:06 AM PST by pgkdan (Protect and Defend America! End the practice of islam on our shores before it's too late!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

” No Labels “ as in ? nothing to see here folks, now move along or you will see your self on the Russian front.


15 posted on 12/17/2010 6:07:03 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Carley

What’s wrong with No Labels?

Duh! It’s a Label! They walk among us.

I’d embrace “practical solutions” if they ever came up with any. Fact-based discussions will demonstrate the unconstitutionality of ObamaCare, the New Deal power grab, and reveal the ponzi Social Security scheme. But can this group even grasp the truth?

It would be funny if it weren’t so frightening.


16 posted on 12/17/2010 6:08:15 AM PST by PuzzledInTX
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To: randita

What’s wrong with “No Labels”?

For one thing, that it’s attractive to a leftie weenie like E. J. Dionne.


17 posted on 12/17/2010 6:08:54 AM PST by Stosh
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“Indeed, there is no far left to speak of anymore. Even among socialists—I’m talking about real ones—almost all now acknowledge the benefits of markets, no longer propose state ownership of the means of production, and accept the inevitability of inequalities in wealth and income.”....

WTF????? Pelosi/Reid/O bought the Banks the Unions and GM, tried to raise taxes and want to tax the rich because “they don’t need the money”!!


18 posted on 12/17/2010 6:10:49 AM PST by jrl1
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To: ClearCase_guy

Meanwhile, those of us with an ideology NOT abhorrent to most decent human beings DON’T change what we’re called.


19 posted on 12/17/2010 6:11:03 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: randita

OUTSTANDING thread! Thanks to every poster.

The tactics of totalitarians.

“Everything about socialism is sham and affectation.” - 23.11 Ch23 Evil; Economic Harmonies; Frederic Bastiat 1801-1850


20 posted on 12/17/2010 6:12:00 AM PST by PGalt
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