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'Birther' sentenced to six months in prison, kicked out of Army
Stars And Stripes ^ | 12/16/10 | Leo Shane III

Posted on 12/18/2010 2:04:57 PM PST by tricksy

Just hours after being found guilty at his court-martial, Army Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin said he was ashamed and remorseful over his decision to refuse deployment to Afghanistan earlier this year, but he hedged on questions about President Barack Obama's citizenship.

"I don't want [my career] to end this way," a tearful Lakin said to military jurors during the sentencing phase of his trial Wednesday afternoon. "I want to continue to serve ... It crushed me not to be on deployment. I can be on a plane tomorrow. I'd truly do that."

Lakin, a 17-year Army physician, was sentenced to six months in prison and dismissal from the service on Thursday after being found guilty of disobeying orders and ignoring his deployment orders. In April, Lakin posted an online video declaring he would not return to Afghanistan with his unit until questions regarding Obama's birth certificate were answered to his satisfaction. The move made him an instant hero to the birther movement, which helped him raise money for his legal defense.

Obama was born in Hawaii, but questions about his parents and overseas upbringing were raised during his 2008 presidential campaign. Hawaiian officials that year verified the existence of his birth certificate, addressing those issues for all but a fringe group that insists that the president is not legally qualified to serve in the White House...

The 45-year-old physician appeared somber and exhausted from two days in court, and was battered by his own civilian defense lawyer during his sentencing statement.

"Are you done disobeying orders, Col. Lakin?" attorney Neal Puckett angrily asked his client. "You invited this court-martial. You invited this sentence. And for the rest of your life, you get to live with a federal felony conviction."

Lakin sheepishly nodded along....

(Excerpt) Read more at stripes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: birthers; certifigate; conspiracytheory; drlakin; lakin; naturalborncitizen
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To: Beckwith

You got me there. He WROTE it.

Kapiolani Hospital REFUSES to support the BELIEF that Obama was born there.

Kapiolani Hospital has never said Obama was born there. Never. Never. Never.

There is no plaque in the lobby saying, “Birthplace of Barack Obama.”

And as far as Lingle, Linda Lingle lies.

PS — I love the way you conveniently overlooked the quote, supposedly from the Centennial Magazine, that you made up. What happened to your claim “the magazine says, “they are proud to have the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama as one of their deliveries?”

Do you still stand besides that, Obot? Cause it doesn’t exist. Yet you state is as fact, as truth.

Damn, you’re an amatuer.


Thank you for acknowledging that Kapi’olani Medical Center published a letter from Barack Obama in their Centennial Magazine which states that Kapi’olani is “the place of my birth.”
Now if Kapi’olani WASN’T the place of Obama’s birth, do you really think that the hospital would have put that statement on the first page of text in their publication?
Wouldn’t you have asked Obama for a different statement in support of the work of the hospital if he wasn’t actually born there?
I’ll let others who are reading this decide for themselves who is being honest and who isn’t. Here’s the paragraph from the Kapiolani Centennial Magazine in its entirety:
“Nearly half of Oahu’s babies are born at Kapi‘olani. Many
public figures, civic and business leaders can claim their
birthplace here. In fact, our 44th President Barack Obama
commended “the excellence of Kapi‘olani Medical Center—
the place of my birth.” He added, “Hawaii has always been a
home to me.”
http://www.kapiolanigift.org/doc/centennial-magazine.pdf

Gee, it looks to me as if Kapi’olani Medical Center is saying that many public figures in Hawai’i can claim Kapiolani as their birth hospital and that Barack Obama is one of those public figures, so they are quoting him in stating that fact.


181 posted on 12/20/2010 3:51:51 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777
Thank you for acknowledging that Kapi’olani Medical Center published a letter from Barack Obama in their Centennial Magazine which states that Kapi’olani is “the place of my birth.”

Your welcome, but you forget one simple fact. Obama is a liar, and says all kinds of stuff.

For example, On Obama's website, he claims to have been born at Queens medical center:



And here Obama is quoted as saying he was born at Queens Medical Center:



That you interpret Obama's words as an endorsement of his birth at Kapiolani only tells me that there are folks at Kapiolani who are as gullible as you.

FACT: There is no proof that Obama was born at either hospital.


182 posted on 12/21/2010 4:13:22 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Beckwith

My wife changes the channel everytime this idiot appears on TV. I always walk over an give her a kiss.

I wonder if there is a corrolation?


183 posted on 12/21/2010 4:22:06 AM PST by Lessthantolerant (The State is diametrically opposed to our search for a better living.)
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To: Beckwith; jamese777

You’re going to cause that bot to develop a fatal error.


184 posted on 12/22/2010 7:34:42 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

No mercy — even during Christmas.

But a very Merry Christmas to you and yours.


185 posted on 12/22/2010 9:31:47 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Beckwith

Since Obama is a liar, he’s very fortunate that the former Republican Governor of Hawai’i backed him up on being born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu.
I think the certainty of Governor Lingle’s statements have scared the Republican Party off from looking further into the issue.

Perhaps at some point in time between 1961 and 2008, a long form birth certificate was inserted into the files of the Department of Health in Honolulu and that there is a long form birth certificate on file for Obama that the Governor’s employees have seen and that she accurately reported what they said to her about it being there.


186 posted on 12/22/2010 1:25:29 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777
Re: “the former Republican Governor of Hawai’i backed him up on being born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu.”

Lingle’s exact statement:

“So I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that's just a fact and yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue and I think it's again a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this.”

Lingle’s statement, above, is a lie. Fukino’s statement never identified Kapiolani as Obama’s birthplace — never, never, never!

And here's Fukino’s statement:

Fukino said, “[I have]...personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record...,” so there is a document. Hawaii released an Adobe document containing an alphabetical list of births, produced from the Hawaii Birth Index database, containing the names of those issued Certificates of Hawaiian Birth from 1911 to 1971, for those who did not get a standard Birth certificate, at birth.” The name Obama does not exist.

Beyond the lie, if Lingle disclosed Obama’s birth hospital without his permission, she has committed a misdemeanor. If Obama gave permission for this public disclosure, then Hawaii no longer has a basis for maintaining the privacy of Obama’s birth records.

§338-18 Disclosure of records. (a) To protect the integrity of vital statistics records, to ensure their proper use, and to ensure the efficient and proper administration of the vital statistics system, it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in vital statistics records, or to copy or issue a copy of all or part of any such record, except as authorized by this part or by rules adopted by the department of health.

http://www.theobamafile.com/_eligibility/LingleLies.htm

Keep it up. I can embarass you all day long.

I even enjoy it.

187 posted on 12/22/2010 2:46:06 PM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Beckwith

Re: “the former Republican Governor of Hawai’i backed him up on being born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu.”
Lingle’s exact statement:

“So I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that’s just a fact and yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue and I think it’s again a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this.”

Lingle’s statement, above, is a lie. Fukino’s statement never identified Kapiolani as Obama’s birthplace — never, never, never!

And here’s Fukino’s statement:

Fukino said, “[I have]...personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record...,” so there is a document. Hawaii released an Adobe document containing an alphabetical list of births, produced from the Hawaii Birth Index database, containing the names of those issued Certificates of Hawaiian Birth from 1911 to 1971, for those who did not get a standard Birth certificate, at birth.” The name Obama does not exist.

Beyond the lie, if Lingle disclosed Obama’s birth hospital without his permission, she has committed a misdemeanor. If Obama gave permission for this public disclosure, then Hawaii no longer has a basis for maintaining the privacy of Obama’s birth records.

§338-18 Disclosure of records. (a) To protect the integrity of vital statistics records, to ensure their proper use, and to ensure the efficient and proper administration of the vital statistics system, it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in vital statistics records, or to copy or issue a copy of all or part of any such record, except as authorized by this part or by rules adopted by the department of health.

http://www.theobamafile.com/_eligibility/LingleLies.htm

Keep it up. I can embarass you all day long.

I even enjoy it.


It IS great fun debating these issues, isn’t it? I enjoy it too!

Governor Lingle’s statement isn’t a “lie” its an elaboration.

If any Obama eligibility lawsuit or investigation should ever get the deposition/subpoena phase, Governor Lingle can be asked to clarify and elaborate on her statement. Thus far that hasn’t happened.

After Kapi’olani published their Centennial Magazine with Obama himself giving up the HIPAA confidentiality of his birth hospital, the Governor was free to also name the hospital. Somehow I just don’t see Obama filing suit against the former Governor for her disclosure, if it was unauthorized.

That option was not avaiable to Dr. Fukino when she issued both of her statements.

In any event, there’s no constitutional requirement that a president be born in a hospital. If there was, quite a few of the founding father presidents would be in trouble. There is no information on a 1961 Hawai’i long form birth certificate that is relevant to being eligible to be president aside from place of birth and date of birth and that information is also available on a certified copy of the Hawaii COLB.

LET THE GAMES CONTINUE!!! ;-)


188 posted on 12/22/2010 4:32:23 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777

I am not debating you, fool.

I am trying my best to educate you.

However, you have repeatedly demonstrated that your opinion of your opinion prevents that from happening.

Some people are just too dumb to learn.

I’m done with you.


189 posted on 12/22/2010 7:32:39 PM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Beckwith

I am not debating you, fool.

I am trying my best to educate you.

However, you have repeatedly demonstrated that your opinion of your opinion prevents that from happening.

Some people are just too dumb to learn.

I’m done with you.


Take comfort in the fact that you tried your very best to educate me. I appreciate your efforts on my behalf.
Take good care.


190 posted on 12/22/2010 7:58:10 PM PST by jamese777
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