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FReeper PAC discussion thread
Free Republic ^ | 12/18/2010 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 12/19/2010 7:55:43 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan

Saturday night, December 18, 2010, Jim floated the idea of forming a political action committe to organize an effort to defeat the RINOs in the upcoming 2012 and 2014 Congressional elections.

"Yup, I do believe it’s time. We need to organize an anti-RINO PAC and get it going in all 57 states to support and elect True God and Country Conservatives™. We can do it!! FReeperPAC is born!"

472 posted on Saturday, December 18, 2010 6:46:47 PM by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)

Many FReepers expressed interest in helping with the PAC, posted research/resources, made relevant suggestions, offered advice, etc. It's time to move that effort to its own thread.

Please continue you contributons here. If you posted important information to the other thread, please consider re-posting it here. You will not automatically be added to the FReeper PAC ping list. You must request to be added if you want to receive pings to important updates.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2644629/posts?page=472


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To: BuckeyeTexan

One of the things to consider is whether the donations would be tax deductible. There is still time before 2010 closes out. It could be significant.


41 posted on 12/19/2010 9:07:14 PM PST by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: All

FYI - FReeper ErnstStavroBlofeld has experience in PACs and has been in leadership positions in them too.


42 posted on 12/19/2010 9:07:23 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Some links.


Recommended reading here from the FEC:


toolkitNonconnected PAC Registration Toolkit

Essential:

 

Recommended:

TOP

 

From this page:

http://www.fec.gov/info/toolkit.shtml#nonconnected

43 posted on 12/19/2010 9:08:59 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Kevmo

I believe if it is one of those 501(c) catagories that is tax deductable that candidates cannnot be endorsed

So IMO the donations will not be deductable for the type of PAC that is needed.


44 posted on 12/19/2010 9:11:50 PM PST by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I'm in. We would need a logo like this, modified somewhat. Image and video hosting by TinyPic
45 posted on 12/19/2010 9:12:11 PM PST by adm5 (AMERICA HAS ONLY GOD AND THE SECOND AMENDMENT LEFT TO SAVE THE REPUBLIC. by: LibLieSlayer 3/18/10)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

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I’m a big tent republican.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821435/posts?page=6245#6245
Here’s an analogy to work with. Take a small box and fill it with some rocks. Then add some rice, filling it to the top. Now take all the same stuff, but in a different order. Put in the rice first, then add the rocks. What you’ll find is that if you put in the big stuff first, the small stuff will fit around it. But if you put in the small stuff first, the big stuff won’t have room. The republican tent is the box. The Big issues are the socon issues, to be put in first. The little issues are things that can be accommodated around the bigger stuff. A candidate who tries to focus on the smaller issues first and leave out the bigger issues has no way of getting all of us into the tent. He splits the party. The candidate who gets the big stuff right and as much of the little stuff that will fit, he can fit more into the tent. We’re often amazed at how much rice can keep fitting in. Rudy Giuliani flunks some of the big issues, and on some of the little issues it looks to me like anyone else’s rice would do just as well. All that remains for us to agree on is which are the bedrock principles and which are not. Why would there be so much invective aimed at rudy from the right? Because there are some bedrock principles that he is leaving out. Bad move. I see rudybot postings all the time saying that they would vote for Hunter, and I see socon postings that say they would not vote for rudy. That’s a BIG indicator of a few bedrock principles that are being left outside the tent in order to let in some rice.

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46 posted on 12/19/2010 9:12:30 PM PST by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Some more...




Saturday, December 18, 2010 9:33:47 PM · 714 of 1,579
Red Steel to Jim Robinson; humblegunner; onyx; Syncro; BuckeyeTexan; GitmoSailor; kristinn; All

Great! We’ve got to get up to speed on the laws for organizing PACs at the federal level and separately in each and every state. Ain’t gonna be easy but it can be done! We should organize at the federal level immediately to target the RINO Senators due up in 2012!


To get started this is the place.

From the Federal Election Commission:

Quick Answers to PAC Questions and where to download the "PAC Registration Toolkit."

http://www.fec.gov/ans/answers_pac.shtml

And

Quick Answers to Common Questions

http://www.fec.gov/ans/answers.shtml

And

"How to Create a Political Action Committee"

http://www.ehow.com/how_2077352_create-political-action-committee.html

47 posted on 12/19/2010 9:12:39 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Kevmo

From what I’ve read thus far, no political contributions are tax deductible as the PAC is not a charitable org.


48 posted on 12/19/2010 9:13:37 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Red Steel
And at least one more.



Sunday, December 19, 2010 8:29:13 PM · 1,550 of 1,579
Red Steel to BuckeyeTexan; onyx; humblegunner

Just FYI - Even if the PAC incorporates for liability reasons, the FEC can go after the Treasurer in his personal (and official) capacity if it believes the Treasurer knowingly and willfully violated the law and/or recklessly failed to perform his duties.

Yup, the treasurer signs his/her name to the FEC 1 form.

The duties

Treasurer Responsibilities

You'll notice the FEC does recognize others can perform the Treasurer's duties.

http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/committee_treasurers_brochure.pdf

I would suggest that a salary isn’t going to be feasible until/unless the PAC is well established.

I agree.

49 posted on 12/19/2010 9:15:49 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

Have you served as a Treasurer of a PAC? Our filing must designate a Treasurer, bank, and website.

Even if the PAC incorporates to limit liability, the FEC can still go after the Treasurer in his personal capacity if they believe he knowingly and willingly broke the law and/or recklessly failed to perform his duties. So our designated Treasurer must understand the implications of accepting the responsbility. He will be responsible for ensuring that the PAC complies with all federal laws.


50 posted on 12/19/2010 9:18:47 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan; humblegunner

To whomever is managing this ping list, if I am not already on the list, please add me.

Thanks.


51 posted on 12/19/2010 9:21:20 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I think that even though mainly the purpose will be to defeat RINO’s but also to elect Constitutional Conservatives re “True God and Country Conservatives™ “ (TG/CCs™) to
all offices that are up for election, many of which will not be involving RINO’s but Democrats and Independents.

I think the positive should be clearly and boldly emphasized.

52 posted on 12/19/2010 9:26:57 PM PST by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Please ping me to this list.


53 posted on 12/19/2010 9:30:09 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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I meant to add that of course the GOP primaries will be directed towards RINO’s if any have the nerve to run.

What about being involved in the Democrat primaries also? To select primary winners that are more likely to lose in the general.

Kinda like the MSM does to the GOP. re McCain.

54 posted on 12/19/2010 9:30:38 PM PST by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Put me on the ping list. I’ve been here since 1998 (not under this sn). My own crusade against Harry Reid showed me none of us can do it alone.


55 posted on 12/19/2010 9:30:50 PM PST by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Have you served as a Treasurer of a PAC? Our filing must designate a Treasurer, bank, and website.

I'm also thinking in terms of logistics and management not on the form...A dedicate computer with accounting software for the Treasurer.

56 posted on 12/19/2010 9:31:06 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: BuckeyeTexan; Jim Robinson; upchuck; calcowgirl; DoughtyOne; Avoiding_Sulla; BufordP; Liz; ...
We need to organize an anti-RINO PAC...

I nominate McLame's BFF Lindsey Graham to be the FReeper PAC's first target.

To hell with the RINO trash!

57 posted on 12/19/2010 9:33:58 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Please add me to the ping list.


58 posted on 12/19/2010 9:36:17 PM PST by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: Syncro

[Here’s a couple of short versions from the text in the body of the thread:

Form a Political Action Committe to organize an effort to defeat the RINOs in the upcoming 2012 and 2014 Congressional elections.
And

An anti-RINO PAC and get it going in all 57 states to support and elect True God and Country Conservatives™. ]

I learned quite a lot being around the Sharron Angle campaign. Sharron got crucified by the RNOs like Sig Rogich in the state of Nevada. Any Freeper PAC has to make very sure it isn’t controlled by the Beltway moneymen like Rove, who will glom on in a heartbeat.


59 posted on 12/19/2010 9:36:26 PM PST by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: SoConPubbie

You’re already on the list. :)


60 posted on 12/19/2010 9:41:26 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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