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Sorry GOP, There's Just One Problem With Your Huge Census Victory
Business Insider ^ | 12/21/2010 | Joe Weisenthal

Posted on 12/21/2010 10:13:28 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Yes, more and more of the American population now lives in red states, and that will benefit the GOP in Congress and Presidential elections.

But while the map is getting redder, the red states themselves may are getting bluer, especially Texas, which was the huge winner with a net pickup of 4 seats.

This chart is from the state of Texas. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see where the population growth has come from, and where it's going (hint: the growth is not coming from the GOP Anglo base). Note that if we're just talking white population, Texas has barely grown at all (and to the extent it has, it's been in Democrat-friendly cities like Dallas and Austin).

Other states are also shifting for similar reasons. They're not as big, but then the Congressional gains aren't nearly as dramatic.

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To: FromLori

RE: Hey check this out your post is featured here

Yeah, that site is a collector of various posts from various blogs and forums. I wonder why they didn’t just link to the ORIGINAL Business Insider article.


21 posted on 12/21/2010 10:25:13 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
we can’t ignore the INCREASE in the Hispanic population in the USA.

This is why the Democrats push things like DREAM whether they have the votes or not. This is why they push immigration reform even when it isn't popular with the overall public.

The left is then using our votes against these measures to poison our standing amongst Hispanics - and the MSM is gleefully helping them.

If we don't begin making major inroads in the Latino vote, we are in serious trouble. There simply are not enough white people moving to the Republican party fast enough to offset this rapidly growing Hispanic population that increasingly votes Democrat.

Perhaps Rubio will be ready for a VP slot in 2012. Something that may help reverse this overall negative trend we are facing amongst this voting demographic.

22 posted on 12/21/2010 10:26:12 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: SeekAndFind
We already know the answer to your question. Accepting illegals as inevitable means the total extinction of the GOP as we've known it.

The tendency towards racial grievance politics are just too strong. Such politics are antithetical to conservatism.

Many of us believe whether or not to normalize the 20 odd million illegals in the nation is the line in the sand issue, there are no grey areas.

23 posted on 12/21/2010 10:26:23 AM PST by skeeter
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To: ilgipper

Then how do you explaing the supermajority in the state legislature. Yes there was one convert, but that is just seeing the writing on the wall.


24 posted on 12/21/2010 10:27:04 AM PST by Bruinator (God is Great.... Beer is good.... Muzzies are.........?)
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To: poindexter
20 years of “Californication” have turned Washington State from purple to dark blue

Exactly. Same with Oregon. The scum foul their own nest and flee, taking their destructive Democrat voting habits with them. They're like locusts. When people say we need to build a fence between California and America, this is the reason why.

25 posted on 12/21/2010 10:27:13 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: SeekAndFind
“we can’t ignore the INCREASE in the Hispanic population in the USA.”

Our goal should be that they are eventually conservative Hispanics.
Then who cares about their ethnicity?

26 posted on 12/21/2010 10:27:26 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Vote like Obama is on the ballot)
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To: SeekAndFind; 1riot1ranger; Action-America; Aggie Mama; Alkhin; Allegra; American72; antivenom; ...
But while the map is getting redder, the red states themselves may are getting bluer, especially Texas, which was the huge winner with a net pickup of 4 seats. This chart is from the state of Texas. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see where the population growth has come from, and where it's going (hint: the growth is not coming from the GOP Anglo base).

This Rat can choke on his rant. Sounds like he doesn't like white people and that is bigotry.

Chris Bell, DEMOCRAT, lost his seat in the House due to redistricting which put a BLACK DEMOCRAT into that district congressman.

Chris Bell and the Pravda Media then proclaimed that the last redistricting was "unfair" in that it put more Republicans into office (while ignoring what else was taken into consideration by the Republicans in drawing the new districts).

Chris Bell didn't lose his seat to a Republican when he threw a hissy fit and filed an "ethics charge" against Tom DeLay over fundraising.

The memes are bullstalin.

27 posted on 12/21/2010 10:28:32 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: nbenyo
New seats will probably split 2-2. Dems favored in new Dallas and South Texas districts.

I think now is the time to examine if repeal of the 17th Amendment would be a good idea presuming the demographic trends are based on solid data.

28 posted on 12/21/2010 10:29:48 AM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas...)
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To: SeekAndFind

It tells me that we need to do a better job of educating people as to the real MEANING of conservative. For too long we have let the Liberals define us. That has to stop.


29 posted on 12/21/2010 10:30:24 AM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: SeekAndFind
Two things wrong with this:

First: Texas Hispanics are being MORE conservative. For example, a majority Hispanic district in South Texas just dumped a long-time Hispanic incumbent for a Republican newcomer.

Hispanic Republicans have done well in a number of districts in South Texas at all levels of the government. If the GOP were to invest some time and effort recruiting and supporting good candidates, that trend will continue. There are many opportunities among the small businessmen, who are getting mugged by Democrat policies every day.

Second: while there is certainly a lot of growth in the Austin and D/FW area, it's occurring in suburbs, not the core cities. When the Democrats were able to gerry-mander districts and distribute their core constituents among multiple districts, they had the advantage. But, they don't have that advantage any longer.

Some of the metropolitans suburb in Texas can't get much more Republican. In mine, the Democrats don't even bother to field candidates.

Texas is growing. It's filling up with people fleeing Democrat regimes in other states like California. Once they get here, they are quickly discovering the freedom from income taxes. Property taxes are higher, but property values aren't stratospheric outside the handful of real-estate bubbles like Highland Park (in North Dallas).

You can actually buy a nice home in most of Texas without two professional incomes. And while some of the inner-city school systems are hell-holes, the suburban ones offer great opportunities to students that want to learn.

30 posted on 12/21/2010 10:30:42 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: RC one

It’s RINO Red right now. They run lousy Democrats for higher office. But it isn’t as conservatively stacked as it could be, especially with the way Texas’ vote/poll.


31 posted on 12/21/2010 10:30:42 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: SeekAndFind

Uh, these very same states saw massive republican gains in elections held just a month ago. So whoever these population gains are they sure seem to vote conservative.


32 posted on 12/21/2010 10:32:56 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Gondring
Amazing that foreigners are represented in our government, but as long as the Census doesn’t ask...

The Constitution explicitly says that "representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State..." (14th Amendment, section 2). Nothing in there about only counting citizens. The very next sentence talks about "citizens of the United States" being eligible to vote for Congress, so they knew the difference between "citizens" and "persons" and clearly intended to have non-citizens counted for reapportionment even though they can't vote.

33 posted on 12/21/2010 10:33:46 AM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: a fool in paradise

Not as long as we have a pubbie Lege to gerrymander the districts,


34 posted on 12/21/2010 10:34:47 AM PST by barb-tex (What else did you expect from the likes of 0? BTW, What ever happened to Rhodesia?, Oh, yes, Zimbabw)
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To: SeekAndFind
we can’t ignore the INCREASE in the Hispanic population in the USA. This is a Demographic that everyone knows will occupy a significant percentage of our population ( both legal and illegal ). Our future will depend on the IDEOLOGY of this segment of our population.... will they become more conservative or liberal? The future of this nation is tied to the answer to this question.

The future will depend on their religion, on whether they become Protestant, or stay Catholic.

When they become Protestant, they also become conservative, and vote Republican.

Even in 2008 against the Obama, racial, anti-white, group identity, election Tsunami, the Protestant Hispanics still supported McCain/Palin by 48%, in 2004, they went 56% Republican.

35 posted on 12/21/2010 10:37:30 AM PST by ansel12 (Lonnie, little by little the look of the country changes, because of the men we admire.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
A ridiculous and completely untenable position. Please actually read the congressional debate over the 14th Amendment in Congress, in which it is made very clear that the persons counted are not intended to be people in the United States illegally.

And more to this: In the only clarifying cases on this issue ever adjudicated by the Supreme Court, the Court made it clear that the definition of US persons in Amendment XIV was intended only to include those "subject to its jurisdiction," which does not include illegals, Indians, or the children of foriegn nationals not intending to remain in the United States.

36 posted on 12/21/2010 10:44:32 AM PST by FredZarguna (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47. In leather.)
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To: ansel12

RE: The future will depend on their religion, on whether they become Protestant, or stay Catholic.

When they become Protestant, they also become conservative, and vote Republican.


I’m not sure if I see the connection between staying Catholic and being liberal.

The Roman Catholic church is opposed to a lot of liberal agendas — Abortion, Gay Marriage, Sex education for kids, etc.

The problem as I see it is these Catholics by birth IGNORE their church’s teachings.


37 posted on 12/21/2010 10:45:47 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Our goal should be that they are eventually conservative Hispanics. Then who cares about their ethnicity?

I think that ANY increase in income by individuals moves them toward voting GOP (about 25 billionaires excluded.)

The GOP should focus on THE most important social issues of our time: economic freedom and rule of law. These are the two foundations of wealth.

Take the most illiterate peasant in the deepest, darkest jungle and give him the freedom to do as he wishes and a justice system that protects him from plunder, he'll quickly accumulate some wealth.

38 posted on 12/21/2010 10:47:07 AM PST by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too...)
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To: RobRoy

Fred nails it...of course; Fred pretty much nails it all the time.


39 posted on 12/21/2010 10:48:02 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: SeekAndFind

1. Close the barn door.

2. Deport, deport, deport.


40 posted on 12/21/2010 10:49:05 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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