Skip to comments.Mexico Says its Troops Killed US Man (US Tourist)
Posted on 12/25/2010 11:20:03 AM PST by Dallas59
MEXICO CITY Joseph Proctor told his girlfriend he was popping out to the convenience store in the quiet Mexican beach town where the couple had just moved, intending to start a new life.
The next morning, the 32-year-old New York native was dead inside his crashed van on a road outside Acapulco. He had multiple bullet wounds. An AR-15 rifle lay in his hands.
His distraught girlfriend, Liliana Gil Vargas, was summoned to police headquarters, where she was told Proctor had died in a gunbattle with an army patrol. They claimed Proctor whose green van had a for-sale sign and his cell phone number spray-painted on the windows had attacked the troops. They showed her the gun.
His mother, Donna Proctor, devastated and incredulous, has been fighting through Mexico's secretive military justice system ever since to learn what really happened on the night of Aug. 22.
It took weeks of pressuring U.S. diplomats and congressmen for help, but she finally got an answer, which she shared with The Associated Press.
Three soldiers have been charged with killing her son. Two have been charged with planting the assault rifle in his hands and claiming falsely that he fired first, according to a Mexican Defense Department document sent to her through the U.S. Embassy in Mexico City.
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They haven’t accused her yet???
out of the frying pan into a fire
How stupid would you have to be to move to Mexico? I mean really..
You would have to be insane or stupid to move to Mexico.
OK, looking for work is not on the list. Neither is jet skiing over the border to look at a church.
If you have trouble telling who the criminals are in Mexico, don’t go there. If you think you can tell who the criminals are in Mexico, you are way too naive to go there.
I watch the tv show “HouseHunters International” and am always in total aw of the places people buy in Central/South America and around the Caribbean Islands. All of those places are hello-holes for the most part, and up for grabs according to who is currently in power. And, not t mention that you take your life in hand each time you step out the door...
He moved to Mexico to follow his girlfriend.
huge mistake to travel to that s+++ hole south of the border for any reason
I love that show! But yeah, I agree that sometimes I find myself genuinely hoping the new homeowners will be ok in their new environs.
Or even go there.
Rose, this is the kinda stuff I’m talking about. Add this to your file.
If he was one of the relatives related to one of the swine liberals in DC the border would be enforced fully the next day.
They never discuss the e-coli count of the beautiful water spread out in front of those international houses.
My husband and I spent 6 months in Costa Rica. One weekend we took a trip up to Lake Arenal. It just so happened that at the bus station the leading newspaper had a huge headline that read, “ E-Coli, High Levels, Lake Arenal”.
My husband and I are still laughing about that one! :-) It was just a mile or two up from the hotel where we were staying.
We were there during the TLC vote that would approve free trade with the U.S. I was **shocked** at the outright Marxist propaganda promoted on the TV and in the newspapers arguing against free trade. TLC passed by a razor thin margin.
Anyone who buys property in Costa Rica is NUTZ! That country could turn completely Marxist in one election...and then...GOOD BYE! property rights!
Our goal was to learn Spanish. We lived with Costa Rican families and attended language school daily. We read Spanish almost as well as English and speak and understand the language on what the schools consider to be the highest level. We studied the Costa Rican newspaper reports carefully and thoroughly every day.
With all due respect to the deceased Mr. Proctor, ya gotta seriously question the intellect of anyone that would voluntarily move to a third world hell hole filled with killers and thugs. No, I mean Mexico.
BS, First off I can not imagine anyone giving up an AR 15, as a throw down, in a country where firearms are illegal in the first place.This story stinks!
I understand that feeling, and and I know it is shared by many. That said, I have to add that while I can’t speak for life in many Latin American countries, I can for Honduras. I own a home there and live there about six months out of the year. It is a wonderful, peaceful country with very warm and friendly people. In 2009, they fought off a attempt by Obama and Chavez to communize their country. So, they are courageous, as well as friendly.
But lets sue US States for upholding US immigration laws.
MSN is pimping Puerto Vallarta and other ‘exotic’ Central and South American locations as great places to retire today. I guess it depends what you are looking for in retirement. If a long and healthy life is one of the things, perhaps Ft. Lauderdale isn’t so bad after all.
It's the Army, though. Doesn't sound like they really lost anything if they threw it down just long enough to take a bunch of crime-scene photos and have it waved around with a tag on it in a courtroom.
It could’ve been me. Someone’s suggested a trip to Mehico as a cure for my blues...
‘How stupid would you have to be to move to Mexico?”
So stupid your stupidity can only be measured on a quantum level.
We just watched one few days ago about some obvious gringos seeking a second home in Nicaragua which showed goose-stepping soldiers - get a clue!
About a month later the federales who'd been parked closest to that restaurant murdered one of the Vice Presidential candidates in the upcoming Presidential elections.
Nice place (/s).
The mexican army provides the cartels all the arms they need, and almost all the officer and leadership in the army are in the pay of the cartels. Mexico is a third-world cesspool of lying putrid crap.
Not rare for weapons to be planted by the army, and others, nothwitshatmdoing ownership of a firearm is “illegal.” Yeah, right. . .like THAT has anything to do with criminals having access to weapons..
TJ City ~ next door to National City!
What are these corrupt soldiers in corrupt Mexico doing? Just practicing killing?
He had this big ol'bottle with a leather holder around the base being held up over him and he was drinking wine, or whatever, without benefit of a glass.
Class place fella', class place!
When we took weekend leave from Camp Pendleton and travelled to Mexico we were armed. Got out of one hairy situation in Tijuana by leveling our weapons at the banditos. From what I’m reading, I wouldn’t go back to Mexico today without a platoon of heavily armed Marines.
Gotta love all the ignorant posts about ‘Mexico’ - and being ‘insane’ to move there... Well I have a house there, and where I live, it’s a damn sight safer than Trenton, or DC, or Detroit, And an awful lot like living in Scottsdale AZ, except I have 1 ocean in walking distance, and another less than an hour away.. Mexico spans about the same distance as from Anchorage to Atlanta, and about 90% of it is no more dangerous than the street you live on.
He must not have known to pay off the banditos in uniform.
Move to a war zone in a 3rd world criminal enterprise, and bad things WILL happen.
I’ve seen the TV series a few times myself. The series makes these places sound and look so exotic and reasonably priced, but they NEVER discuss the political climate or risks involved. It gives me the chills just watching after the family makes the purchase and settles in, listening to how pleased they are living as expat Americans or Brits. Really they all seem to be politically tone deaf and oblivious to global conflict. Almost a 9/10 mentality. It’s eerie. Total denial. And you just know they don’t own any firearms to protect themselves with. All they care about is how much house their money will buy and is it close enough to where they have to go to work. And how much rehabbing they are going to have to do. Holy cow.
I did Guaymas many, many years ago on a spring break and it was the wild west back then. I can’t imagine what its like today.
“Mexico spans about the same distance as from Anchorage to Atlanta,”
You must be using an Aztlan or New World Order map.
Having spent time in Mexico in many areas of the country and also spending time in Colombia, I’ll take Colombia in a New York second.
Thousands of Americans living in Mexico get along real well. Sometimes, it gets SO BAD here, it is kind of like uh...maybe Detroit or Washington DC.
How on Earth can you follow up the first sentence with the second and still try to be credible? Maybe if you take the square mileage of Mexico and convert it into a straight line.
The writer is full of it. The distance from Tijuana, Baja California to Merida, Yucatan is about 1900 miles. The distance from Anchorage to Atlanta is nearly twice as far, 3400 miles.
It is 3400 miles, more-or-less, from Anchorage to Atlanta.
It is 1900 miles from Tijuana to Merida.
>> “Anyone who buys property in Costa Rica is NUTZ!” <<
I have a friend that has a bar in San Jose, and a ranch that straddles the ridge on the coast. He loves the place, and hates to come back to the US for business.
Another friend who was born there, but came to the US for high school, has been trying to get me to move down there. She is a bit of a leftist, as I recall.
What did your friend have to say about the TLC election and the blatant Marxist rhetoric used by the anti-free traders?