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UPDATE 2-Man with bullet parts arrested at Miami airport
Reuters ^ | Dec 28, 2010 | By Kevin Gray

Posted on 12/28/2010 8:56:48 PM PST by Jet Jaguar

Law enforcement officials said they did not believe the incident had any links to terrorism. The FBI described the man as a 37-year-old nationalized U.S. citizen traveling en route to Jamaica. Authorities did not specify his previous nationality.

Authorities detained the man after a baggage handler reported a small explosion while unloading luggage from an American Airlines (AMR.N) flight that arrived in Miami from Boston.

FBI spokesman Mark Leverock said the man's luggage contained hundreds of bullet primers -- a key component of bullet cartridges.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; boston; isolatedincident; jamaica; miami; nationalsecurityfail; primers
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To: satan
Don’t you have to question how gently the baggage handler handled the baggage to cause a primer to detonate. Were the primers packaged or loosly thrown in a can or box?

Exactly what I was thinking. Primers in their original packaging are very stable. What caused them to go off? You could throw a box of primers on the floor and they wouldn't go off.

61 posted on 12/29/2010 6:13:11 AM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: Buffalo Head

“re: Oil on primers makes them inert”.

Dear Doubting Thomas,

I seldom repeat what others of said, I do original research which is why I have over 200 articles in scientific journals.

But, if you need verification that oil applied directly to primers makes them inert, here is a web page with pictures. Please note I said primers and not bullets. Getting oil on bullets doesn’t seem to affect the primers because the working parts are now pressure fitted into a waterproof brass case..

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot39.htm


62 posted on 12/29/2010 6:14:12 AM PST by TxDas (This above all, to thine ownself be true.)
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To: barb-tex
Is there any rim fire ammo these days other than .22 cal.? I don't recall ever seeing any other and I've been shooting since the early 1950’s. I've been away from any range time for a long time now and since I live in a pretty urban area there's really no place to plink tin cans or clothes pins on a barbed wire fence.

I have a nice weapon and really do need to go by a range and have someone go through the process with me and get me back into keeping some skills. I could fire the weapon if I had to, but I doubt it would do much more than piss off the assailant and scare the bystanders. And of course probably get me arrested.

63 posted on 12/29/2010 6:17:25 AM PST by jwparkerjr (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: TxDas

Good on ya’; I enjoyed reading that.


64 posted on 12/29/2010 6:28:32 AM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: jwparkerjr

Somebody makes a .17 rimfire and I have heard about a 5 mm also.


65 posted on 12/29/2010 6:31:46 AM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: Repeal The 17th

“...Somebody makes a .17 rimfire and I have heard about a 5 mm also...’

Yep. Hornady, CCI, Federal. In particular, the relatively new .17HMR which is one nasty little critter. Basically, it’s a necked-down .22 magnum rim-fire with a little high-tech .17 cal bullet that does absolute wonders on varmints. I’ve used them out to about a 100 yards with pretty good results.


66 posted on 12/29/2010 7:22:39 AM PST by lgjhn23
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To: jwparkerjr

Rim Fire. Smith and Wesson invented the .22 caliber short and it became an instant success even though it was underpowered. After that came the .44 rimfire used in the Henry repeater.


67 posted on 12/29/2010 7:55:46 AM PST by calex59
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To: DBrow

>>Very impressive, I have never seen such a multiple post!<<

HA!! take a look at replies 3 - 17 at the link below!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2648347/posts


68 posted on 12/29/2010 8:46:46 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Whether corruption is in politics, science, education, research, etc., always follow the money.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Still no ID released I see....


69 posted on 12/29/2010 8:49:33 AM PST by mewzilla (Hey, Schumer, your Lockerbie report left quite a bit out.)
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To: TxDas
I asked, "Please attempt to verify what you wrote and report back. Just because you have read that nonsense so many times does not make it true."

Not withstanding your claim of "I seldom repeat what others of (sic) said..." you simply referred me to what others have written. Your claim of "I do original research...." does not ring true.

Your statement, "Getting oil on bullets doesn’t seem to affect the primers...." seems to be another instance of the ignorant referring to cartridges as "bullets".

As to "waterproof brass case" please explain why all ammunition produced by and for the military is required to incorporate sealant at the bullet/shellcase juncture and also at the primer/shellcase juncture.

It is expected that contributors to this forum clearly identify writing that is "opinion" versus hard fact. You have crossed the line and made statements that are flatly not true and could have negative consequences for even less informed folks.

Again, conduct the oil on or in primers experiment and report back (with an apology).

70 posted on 12/29/2010 9:30:29 AM PST by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: Buffalo Head; DBrow
DBrow, tell that to the wife when she picks one up with the beater bar on the vacuum cleaner and it goes off.
71 posted on 12/29/2010 9:35:19 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

LOL!


72 posted on 12/29/2010 10:40:31 AM PST by DBrow
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To: Jet Jaguar; All

http://www.enterprisenews.com/news/cops_and_courts/x1882987787/Officials-investigating-exploding-luggage-incident-from-Boston-flight

Orville Andrew Braham


73 posted on 12/29/2010 10:43:29 AM PST by DBrow
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To: Jet Jaguar; All

I think that if you actually know anything about guns, you are not allowed to be a “journalist”, and an editor that does fact-checking must get sacked without warning.
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“But investigators discovered that hundreds of .45-caliber ammunition primers, used with bullets, had detonated within the suitcase on impact, triggering the explosion. A primer is the back end of a bullet, the “spark plug” that provides the spark that ignites the gunpowder.
In the second checked suitcase, investigators said they discovered hundreds of .45-caliber ammunition primers in a plastic bag concealed in the suitcase lining. Parts of a disassembled ammunition reloading press were found in the lining, in a zippered compartment and wrapped in items of clothing.”


74 posted on 12/29/2010 10:46:21 AM PST by DBrow
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To: jwparkerjr
I vaguely remember seeing some mm sized RF pistol ammo. The only one I have actually fired was the old Remington Derringer in .41 RF Short. Seems like I have read that one of the old Volcanic pistols was chambered in .41 RF Long. But as you said modern arms, no
75 posted on 12/29/2010 10:47:04 AM PST by barb-tex (What else did you expect from the likes of 0? BTW, What ever happened to Rhodesia?, Oh, yes, Zimbabw)
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To: DBrow

Thank you.


76 posted on 12/29/2010 10:48:35 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: All
My relentless campaign on this site to expose the diabolical machinations of the Norwegian Motorcycle Gangs has paid off big time!

Now they are posing as Jamaicans and have to resort to hand-loading their own ammo. I have suggested to Janet Napolitano that all lutefisk be required to have markers inserted that will appear on airport screening device displays.

We will end this worldwide reign of Viking terror, my friends, no matter how many disguises these shape-shifting Norwegians use.

77 posted on 12/29/2010 10:50:02 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (America can survive fools in office. It cannot long survive the fools who elect them.)
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To: Kenny Bunk; All

Ha ha. This Norwegian biker had forgotten that there was a disassembled reloading press and 700 primers in his suitcase when he booked his flight to Jamaica, where ammo, primers, guns and all are illegal.

So now he’s not charged with the federal crime of hazmat shipping on a passenger aircraft, looks like he’s charged with the Massachusetts crime of “illegal ammo possession”, because in Massachusetts you need a license to own any ammo, which includes primers, bullets, and empty shell casings. I’m guessing that the Mass charge is much more serious than the federal hazmat charge.

I emailed the investigators and tipped them to look for lutefisk, Kenny.


78 posted on 12/29/2010 11:00:39 AM PST by DBrow
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To: MediaMole

Gee, I’ve got THOUSANDS in my reloading cabinet... and I’m running short!


79 posted on 12/29/2010 11:04:22 AM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Buffalo Head

Propellent is a noun, propelling is the adjective.


80 posted on 12/29/2010 11:09:47 AM PST by SeeSac
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