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As Gay Becomes Bourgeois
Townhall.com ^ | December 29, 2010 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 12/29/2010 11:03:28 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Sherman Logan; Darksheare; DJ MacWoW; onyx
I suspect you are reading things into my post I didn’t actually say.

Then maybe you should clarify. Will you answer these questions:

1. What should be taught about homosexuality in schools? That it is:

A. Normal behavior.
or
B. Deviant and abnormal behavior.

2. Should two people of the same sex be allowed to marry each other? YES or NO

101 posted on 12/29/2010 12:38:15 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Sherman Logan; wagglebee

No, no confusion at all pal.
Bawney Fwank had a homosexual underage prostitution ring in his basement, and that was consensual.

Here you are trying to normlize the disease by “using the term is to ensure force or rape is removed from the discussion.”

But, even though some things are consented to, the people consenting are incapable of legally doing so.
Just because it is consented doesn’t mean it is right.
And curious that you won’t answer wagglebees question.


102 posted on 12/29/2010 12:40:43 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Darksheare
Every time you mention other cultures pal.

I guess they're right about Americans being xenophobic. ):

According to you, we are not only supposed to believe our values are better, a POV with which I generally agree, but we are apparently also supposed to never recognize that other values have ever existed. There is nothing at all we can learn from a discussion of other cultures, not even confirmation that our values are superior to theirs.

103 posted on 12/29/2010 12:43:57 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Kaslin

Interesting article save the concessions near the end.


104 posted on 12/29/2010 12:44:21 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Sherman Logan

America is the cultural melting pot.
Theodore Roosevelt said of immigrants that they should assimilate with us.
Meaning, you become an American, learn the lingo, embrace American culture.

That is the American Paradigm

Trying to normalize what is valid from other cultures is invalid in the American Culture.
Unless, of course, tribal headhunters are what you’d like in your neighborhood - we can emulate that.
Your ‘point’ is invalid.


105 posted on 12/29/2010 12:46:53 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Sherman Logan; Darksheare; wagglebee
not even confirmation that our values are superior to theirs.

That is not what you are doing. Keep talking. I'm enjoying watching you sink. Oh and, ANSWER WAGGLEBEE.

106 posted on 12/29/2010 12:48:20 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Darksheare
Trying to normalize what is valid from other cultures is invalid in the American Culture.

Except with food.

107 posted on 12/29/2010 12:48:37 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Darksheare

I disagree with your analysis of Sherman Logan’s comments.

It makes sense to discuss these issues ONLY in terms of consenting adults. Otherwise you have additional legal issues involved.

This doesn’t NORMALIZE the behavior. But for the discussion, it means it is IMMORAL but not ILLEGAL.

This does not mean Sherman agrees with the behavior. But it does raise the question, “How do we/society deal with behavior we may find immoral but which isn’t illegal?”


108 posted on 12/29/2010 12:50:02 PM PST by TexNewMex
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To: Darksheare

Possibly true.

However, you should list the unnamed five last emperors, not Nero and Caligula.

It is as if I were to point out the homo-ness of James I as the “cause” of the present decline of the UK. The timespan involved is similar. Yet everybody recognizes today that the sexual preference of James is pretty irrelevant to anything happening today.

For about the last 75 years or so of the Empire, who was Emperor and who he preferred to bed were remarkably irrelevant, as the Emperors were merely figureheads for military commanders and barbarian chieftains.

Are you aware Constantine (died 337, over 150 years before the Fall) made sodomy a capital crime? What is your evidence the late Roman Empire was overrun with homos?


109 posted on 12/29/2010 12:50:02 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: DJ MacWoW; Sherman Logan; wagglebee

Yeah, I’m wishing to finally see them answer wagglebee.

Hey, Sherm, post 101!
Answer the question.
Oh, and.. Sherm?
Debate fail yet again.


110 posted on 12/29/2010 12:50:07 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: DJ MacWoW; Darksheare
It always amazes me when people refuse to answer simple questions with defined answers. The left has conditioned these people to believe that there are nuances everywhere.
111 posted on 12/29/2010 12:50:07 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

1. B

2. NO

Never said otherwise, regardless of what some have read into a post.


112 posted on 12/29/2010 12:51:15 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: wagglebee; DJ MacWoW

Yeah, you have that right.
The meaning of ‘is’ and whether or not ‘giving back medals’ actually meant ‘giving them back.’
And the current wannabe in the whitehouse with his ministry of truth and doublespeak.


113 posted on 12/29/2010 12:52:30 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: TexNewMex; Darksheare
It makes sense to discuss these issues ONLY in terms of consenting adults.

I see you know NOTHING about homosexuals. Tell me what a chicken hawk is.

114 posted on 12/29/2010 12:52:55 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: TexNewMex

Thank you. Your question does a considerably better job of explaining my thought than I did.


115 posted on 12/29/2010 12:53:22 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: wagglebee; Darksheare; Sherman Logan

Sherman doesn’t dare answer them. He’s been pegged correctly from his first post.


116 posted on 12/29/2010 12:54:17 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

A “chicken hawk” is engaging in illegal behavior, trying to involve someone who can’t give consent.


117 posted on 12/29/2010 12:54:34 PM PST by TexNewMex
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To: Sherman Logan; wagglebee; DJ MacWoW
So then, why do you say Americans are xenophobic?
Why slam American Culture?
You keep twisting in the wind, quoting the norms of other cultures as if they are valid, and then you claim you didn't mean it that way.
Curious that.
I'd say you're lying.
118 posted on 12/29/2010 12:54:53 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: TexNewMex

Sorry buddy.
But the push has been to reduce the age of consent.
Now why would the homos do that?


119 posted on 12/29/2010 12:56:09 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Please see post 112.


120 posted on 12/29/2010 12:56:41 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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