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Scientist: Climate change to intensify winter weather
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Posted on 12/29/2010 2:25:36 PM PST by Sub-Driver

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To: Sub-Driver
The Global Warming Marxists are going absolutely off the deep end to hold on to the last shreds of credibility remaining amongst the most gullible sheeple. Soon, we'll be told that unusually cool summers are a result of Global Warming. The planet is getting colder so it must be Global Warming. War is peace... Love is hate... Ignorance is bliss. This is the same double speak that Marxists the world over have employed from the very start. Move along folks, nothing to see here but the same old Socialist drivel.
41 posted on 12/29/2010 3:17:36 PM PST by Desron13
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To: JaguarXKE

“Peterson warned that you cannot determine whether climate change is occurring based on an individual weather event. Instead, scientists study climate trends over the course of thousands of years.”

There’s the real problem. Thousands of years are way too short to pick up on the real cycles that may affect climate. No one has even thought about our Sun’s path around the galactic center much less the Sun itself.

There’s a reason our ancestors worshiped the Sun god.


42 posted on 12/29/2010 3:22:07 PM PST by meatloaf
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I meant to say I found the articles. I created the excerpts myself. In any case, it is amazing how so few people, thanks largely to leftwing-biased media and academia, know that the overwhelmingly most significant greenhouse gas is simple water vapor, accounting for something like 95% of the effect! Details at the links.


43 posted on 12/29/2010 3:22:55 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Sub-Driver

So when we had droughts during the dust bowl I assume that was due to global cooling.

But wasn’t pollution worse then?

Am I missing something?


44 posted on 12/29/2010 3:38:03 PM PST by mykroar (I believe in the simplistic notion that people who have wealth are entitled to keep it.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I never understood why warming=bad weather.

The original GW theory states that the poles are warming at a faster rate than the equator. Ok, this means the differential in temperature between the poles and equator is reduced. So when cold fronts from the poles collide with warm fronts, the weather should gradually get milder.

So even if you do buy their CO2 garbage, the net effect should be the reverse of what they are saying. Its just so cavemanlike and unprovable (perfect for public school teachers to ‘learn’ and use to indoctrnate):

Man make CO2 (especially evil white man)

CO2 retain heat

More heat=bad weather

How? Why?


45 posted on 12/29/2010 3:40:13 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Signalman
No one with at least a room temperature IQ is buying this AGW garbage any longer. Which explains why so many liberals ARE buying it.

But it's science.

How else will we survive the guilt ?

46 posted on 12/29/2010 3:45:42 PM PST by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
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To: tuckrdout
Children were going to grow up never to see snow...THAT is what the “climatologists” stated.

Yup. Two of my great-granddaughters live in Florida, and they were delighted to see the sleet, snow, slush ... whatever it was that fell on Jax.

47 posted on 12/29/2010 3:51:09 PM PST by Ole Okie
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To: Gondring
And don't forget the email fiasco.

If Global warming, climate change-and now as 0 calls it "global climate disruption" had any validity, they wouldn't have to change the name every other day.

Same with Democrats, Libs, Progressives...

The whole bunch of them are phony phackers!

48 posted on 12/29/2010 3:51:11 PM PST by skimbell
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To: Publius Maximus
I grow so weary of these nimrods. When will they have the humility to admit they don’t know what they’re talking about, and have no clue how to control the planet — and thus have no grounds to try to convince the rest of us to lay down our liberties for their schemes. Which, at bottom, is all this is about. Power.

Their grants are dependent upon there being an AGW crisis. No crisis = no funding. These guys are too old to be considering new careers in used auto sales. They will NEVER admit they're wrong, just as Baghdad Bob never admitted he was talking bullshit. When Bob's position became untenable, he just went home.

49 posted on 12/29/2010 3:59:59 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: lacrew
The original GW theory states that the poles are warming at a faster rate than the equator. Ok, this means the differential in temperature between the poles and equator is reduced. So when cold fronts from the poles collide with warm fronts, the weather should gradually get milder.

Whereas if things are getting cooler, the Arctic will be getting colder, and the temperature difference will drive more violent winter storms. Which is what we're seeing.

50 posted on 12/29/2010 4:04:55 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Sub-Driver

The problem with their “scientific” method is there is no way to disprove what they say.

Anything and everything they will use to only prove their cause...ah er I mean theory.

It is when everything “proves” their theory is when you know it is fraudulent science.

You have to be able to disprove a theory in order to prove a theory.


51 posted on 12/29/2010 4:10:10 PM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: skimbell
now as 0 calls it "global climate disruption"

On the other hand, "climate change" is an old term, not something new. I've found that many people don't seem to understand that "Global Warming" doesn't mean you have warming everywhere. Also, you can have climate change without global warming.

I once spent an evening tallying up technical publications using "Global Warming" and/or "Climate Change" in the title over the past 100 years. I had 8 pages and I hadn't even gotten through lead authors starting with the letter "B"...! Both terms go back many decades.

52 posted on 12/29/2010 4:19:43 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Sub-Driver
“Weather events are pixels in the climate picture. Some are indicative of changes we are experiencing; some simply reflect the variability of weather and climate. As the world continues to warm, heat waves are an example of the former,” he said, while adding that extreme winter weather events are “examples of the latter.”

Translation: "One more falsified prediction from our boys is just a pixel in the overall climate narrative. Some are indicative of the further research we need to do; some simply reflect the unreasonableness of [skeptics]. As the funding continues to flow, the shifts we've taken are an example of the former," he meant, while further meaning that the called-on falsified predictions are "examples of the latter."

These people might as well be Keynesian economics - and this winter is their stagflation. Like Keynesians, they take refuge in unfalsifiability.

"The curve...shifts."

53 posted on 12/29/2010 4:31:26 PM PST by danielmryan
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To: Sub-Driver

As I understand it, warming temperatures can cause cooling temperatures as the two temperatures move around in the atmosphere, but the warming/cooling cannot jump continents. Also, a warming continent does not mean the warming is caused by humans.


54 posted on 12/29/2010 6:02:04 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: frogjerk

Global Warming: globaloney for the gullible


55 posted on 12/29/2010 6:39:31 PM PST by crusher (Political Correctness: Stalinism Without the Charm)
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To: Sub-Driver; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; SunkenCiv
scientists study climate trends over the course of thousands of years.

...but ignore the pesky parts, and then use a recent 30 year period to referrence any current messaged and fudged and cherry picked data used to feed their inadequate models, so they write their biased, twisted, and contorted "reports".

56 posted on 12/29/2010 8:13:13 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Mohammad: the earliest documented pedophile "priest"...and he was proud of it.)
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To: Sub-Driver

They say it is “Too Urgent... Too Dangerous! The only way to stop it is “Less Freedom.. More Regulations and Higher Taxes!” and nothing else is even worth arguing about ...

Color me a DENIER and I’d just as soon color their outline with a piece of Chalk.

TT


57 posted on 12/29/2010 9:00:34 PM PST by TexasTransplant (I don't mind liberals... I hate liars...there just tends to be a high degree of overlap)
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To: Sub-Driver

Global Warming is a grab bag of theories. Whatever happens, you can reach into the grab bag and pull out one of the many theories to “explain” it. Let’s say this is Global Warming Theory #43. Then, come the next weather event, you cite Global Warming Theory #18. Then, #22. Never mind that these various weather events that are consistent with one of the theories contradicts the others. On the other hand, the whole thing is consistent with natural variation. Yes, the planet has been on a warming trend since the end of the Little Ice Age (and this has been a good thing). At the same time, there has been an upward trend of volcano and earthquake activity, and a more pronounced El Nino/La Nina cycle. Has human activity contributed to whatever is going on? Maybe. The important controversy is the assertion that there is a threshold beyond which the planet will commence continuous warming and that we humans are tipping the scale. But, what is pathetic about this controversy is that there is now nothing that could be done to prevent this scenario. So, if it true, it’s now inevitable. On the other hand, the assertion is a mere speculation based on fears of the dynamic progress of capitalist economies and there is no rational basis for believing in it. If anybody were really serious about science, they would listen to economists as to how to develop a market in greenhouse gases; but, no, it’s all about advancing socialism within the democratic countries of the world and about the rulers of the undemocratic countries of the world shaking us down. These goals are, by the way, contradictory, since socializing the economies of the democratic countries of the world will destroy the wealth that the rules of the undemocratic countries covet.


58 posted on 12/30/2010 6:42:45 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: ETL

gotcha...I concur.


59 posted on 12/30/2010 9:12:43 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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