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'No refusal' initiative to become more common in Harris County
Houston Chronicle ^ | Dec. 22, 2010 | ANITA HASSAN

Posted on 12/30/2010 12:49:32 PM PST by RikaStrom

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I saw the one on Tampa, and then my admin said Harris County was doing it as well. I think I am going to stay home this weekend.
1 posted on 12/30/2010 12:49:34 PM PST by RikaStrom
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To: surfer

Ping to another one.


2 posted on 12/30/2010 12:50:37 PM PST by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: TheGrimReaper; humblegunner; Eaker; TheMom; a fool in paradise

Head’s up. I didn’t see this one anywhere.


3 posted on 12/30/2010 12:51:45 PM PST by RikaStrom (Pray for Obama - Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his place of leadership.")
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To: RikaStrom

It will be a good time if anything to pick up illegals and deport them.


4 posted on 12/30/2010 12:53:53 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: RikaStrom; 1riot1ranger; Action-America; Aggie Mama; Alkhin; Allegra; American72; antivenom; ...

Has Harris County fixed the problems in their corruption evidence labs yet?


5 posted on 12/30/2010 12:54:16 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The biggest waste of brainpower is to want to change something that's not changeable. -Albert Brooks)
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To: RikaStrom; 1riot1ranger; Action-America; Aggie Mama; Alkhin; Allegra; American72; antivenom; ...

Has Harris County fixed the problems in their corrupt evidence labs yet?


6 posted on 12/30/2010 12:54:29 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The biggest waste of brainpower is to want to change something that's not changeable. -Albert Brooks)
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To: RikaStrom

Here’s the Tampa thread link....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2649380/posts


7 posted on 12/30/2010 12:54:49 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Merry Christmas!!)
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To: RikaStrom

Vampires are very popular these days.


8 posted on 12/30/2010 12:55:48 PM PST by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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To: freekitty

They are more likely to cut bait when they pull over someone they suspect may be in the country illegally.


9 posted on 12/30/2010 12:55:58 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The biggest waste of brainpower is to want to change something that's not changeable. -Albert Brooks)
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To: a fool in paradise

Of course they are. This is a revenue enhancement venture, nothing more. Illegals aren’t even on their radar.


10 posted on 12/30/2010 1:00:28 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: a fool in paradise

This is the 2nd or third year they have been doing this, it works.
New Years Eve is for rookies anyway. Stay home and there will not be a problem.


11 posted on 12/30/2010 1:02:43 PM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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Evans said the initiative hopes to encourage more suspected drunken drivers to provide law enforcement with breath specimens. "When people realize (law enforcement) are going to get the evidence one way or another, they say I might as well provide that breath specimen, which is less intrusive than getting blood from a vein," Evans said.

Except if you have gas (burp) from drinking some beer, it can boost your readings. And the machines must be calibrated. Even if you blow below 0.08, it does not prohibit them from charging you anyway. And now they want to be able to prosecute 0.05 and below with another charge. Procedural crimes over "impairment". But it all brings in more money for insurance companies, lawyers, politicians, and county fines.

12 posted on 12/30/2010 1:03:03 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The biggest waste of brainpower is to want to change something that's not changeable. -Albert Brooks)
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To: RikaStrom

This just isn’t a good idea. It is un-American...PERIOD.

They need to have lawyers on hand to represent people.


13 posted on 12/30/2010 1:03:41 PM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Illegals don’t have the thousands of dollars to fund the system and may provide false ID anyway.


14 posted on 12/30/2010 1:03:54 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The biggest waste of brainpower is to want to change something that's not changeable. -Albert Brooks)
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To: RikaStrom

Let’s hear three oinks for this latest “revenue enhancement” venture. They lost the red light camera money so they had to do something !

Of course, they’ll not do something useful, like catch illegals for deportation. Or lack of driver’s licenses. Or lack of insurance. Or the pitiful condition of the junkpile the illegal is piloting.


15 posted on 12/30/2010 1:04:46 PM PST by jimt
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This is a good program.

This is not the same as the Tampa initiative. Tampa has “checkpoints” ... which sounds like a blanket stop-and-check with or without probable cause.

As I understand it, Harris County gets a “no refusal” warrant after a sobriety-test refusal on a probable-cause initiated traffic stop. They don’t do tests on every stop or at a checkpoint ... they do tests when probable cause exists.

If probable cause exists, and a warrant is issued, the Constitution is satisfied, and justice is served.

SnakeDoc


16 posted on 12/30/2010 1:05:58 PM PST by SnakeDoctor ("They made it evident to every man [...] that human beings are many, but men are few." -- Herodotus)
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They’ve been doing this in my Indiana county for several years on ALL chemical test refusal cases. It has many down sides for the defendant:

1. You are still going to jail if you refuse
2. First you will go to the hospital where they will draw your blood
3. Your case will be filed and the Bureau of Motor Vehicles will immediately suspend your license for one year
4. The state still gets the evidence necessary to convict you, and might even find some other things in your blood, like drugs or controlled substances, that would not show up on a breath test
5. Because of the backlog at the Department of Toxicology, an agency run by the 3 Stooges, the State will continue the case for 8 months until they get the test results
6. You will get convicted of the Operating While Intoxicated charge, and then there is an additional license suspension (minimum 1st offense 90 days) which has to get tacked on top of the one year refusal suspension.

Good advice: Don’t refuse the test unless this is your 3rd OWI.

Best advice: Don’t drink and drive.


17 posted on 12/30/2010 1:09:15 PM PST by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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Sorry, I disagree with this entire approach.

This body is MINE - I am not property of any state, country or munciple district. I, and I alone will decide if someone is going to TAKE my body, and only with permission.

The way the law USED to read, was that if pulled over for Drunk driving, if the driver refused to cooperate - he forfeited his driving priviledge for a period of 1 year. This was more harsh than the Drunk Driving charge he was pulled over for. An automatic plea of guilt would be assumed - so you were legally better off by cooperating with a Blood Alcohol reading of your choice.

If the Police can stop me, arbitarily - and then take my blood - arbitrarily -then I am not a person; but property of a state or goverment.

Funny, they CANNOT do this to accused rapists to determine whether the rape victim has been exposed to AIDS or any other sexually transmitted disease.


18 posted on 12/30/2010 1:09:17 PM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar

For all practical purposes, an accused child molester or murderer has more constitutional rights than a defendant in a drunk driving case.

Of course, the accused child molester or murderer has a lot more to lose.


19 posted on 12/30/2010 1:13:36 PM PST by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: RikaStrom

The State of Nevada has had this on the law books for over 15 years. Something called, implied consent.


20 posted on 12/30/2010 1:18:00 PM PST by redreno (Americans don't go Gault. Americans go Postal.)
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