Skip to comments.N. Korean soldiers leave barracks en masse looking for food
Posted on 01/01/2011 8:30:01 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
N. Korean soldiers leave barracks en masse looking for food
An increasing number of North Korean soldiers are showing AWOL behaviors to avoid intense physical training and look for food, the local daily, Chosun Ilbo, said Saturday, sourcing it to RFA.
AWOL is a military acronym for "absence without leave."
Its hard to punish them because there are too many of such soldiers, an unnamed North Korean informant, told RFA in the report.
Some of the soldiers display on-off AWOL behaviors, for example, leaving the barracks in the morning looking for food and coming back in the evening.
The en masse absence is even causing difficulty in carrying out training according to schedule, the source said.
The sorry state of the military even earned Kim Jong-uns ire, who reportedly said: Those incapable military commanders should resign.
The informant, introduced in the report as a soldier, put the low morale in the North Korean military this way. If there were 10 AWOL reports, the actual number would be about 50.
Kim Jong-il: Nuke, ICBM, luxury brands, questionable fashion taste, stroke, diabetes
N. Korea soldiers: starvation, malnutrition, AWOL, banditry, looting
That would classify as AWOL in any army in the world, nothing partial about it.
The gub'm'nt just recently ordered that no more food be taken from the peasants for the army.
That problem and the well-known principle that “an army travels on its stomach” could easily move them to cross the DMZ and, like locusts looking for more food, touch off that powder keg.
Wars have been triggered for less critical reasons.
Those incapable military commanders should resign.
***N. Korea soldiers: starvation, malnutrition, AWOL, banditry, looting ****
Mayby this is dis-informantion, make us believe things are really bad in the North, trying to goad the South into an attack against what may be really well trained and fed troops.
I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that Jong-Un will be the last of the dynasty. The country, which has suffered so deeply and for so long, 'getting told' by a youngster who hasn't earned his spurs while they starve- has got to be galling beyond belief to even the most brainwashed fanatic.
BTW- Thank you for what you do here- it is appreciated.
If we had a president with some guts, he’d offer all the steak they can eat to the North Korean army if they turn on the dictatorship. But no, Obama is too busy eating wagyu beef at cocktail parties to ever entertain something like that.
Recall that a typhoon actually hit North Korea this year - that had to have an impact on what few crops they actually grow there.
I saw a picture one time (I think here on FR) showing a US soldier and an SK soldier escorting an NK soldier. I don’t remember the details but I believe the NK soldier had wandered into the DMZ and was captured. The US soldier looked to be about 6’2”, and looked like he could bench press 315 and then run about 20 6 minute miles. The SK guy wasn’t nearly as big, but was in excellent physical condition. The NK soldier was about 5’2” and obviously malnourished. He looked slightly better than your average Ethiopian. If I hadn’t seen the three of them together the difference wouldn’t have nearly as obvious.
Sounds like the Mandate of Heaven is slipping from the North Korean dynasty.
Dozens killed in North Korea typhoon
Dozens of people died in North Korea in floods and landslides caused by a typhoon which hit the country earlier this month, state media has said.
Typhoon Kompasu hit the Korean peninsula on 2 September.
“Several dozen people have died throughout the country due to torrential rain, strong winds and landslide,” the KCNA said.
More than 8,300 homes and 230 public buildings were destroyed and over 30,000 hectares of farmland were ruined, the agency said.
Earlier this week, South Korea said it would deliver rice and other aid to North Korea within a month, amid some signs of a thaw in relations between the two neighbours.
North Korea relies on food aid to feed its people, and it has also been hard-hit this year by flooding.
This is what happens when a country decides to go “progressive”.
Credible reports I’ve seen put the permanent early malnutrition damage to the rising generation at catostrophic for NK.
They will be fielding an army of low-IQ stunted runts. Their national future is damaged beyond comprehension. These are not big relatively fit East Germans, folded into the West. The SKs want nothing to do with caring for millions of damaged NK children/youths post reunification. They want to keep the DMZ wall up now more than ever.
See 17. And the soldiers at the DMZ are their best. Imagine a NK “4F.” Probably makes Banjo Boy from Deliverence look like an Ivy League scholar athlete. Girls and boys, by the millions. There is no “fix” or “cure” for early near-starvation. You can’t wind the clock back to infancy and early childhood and make up the loss. Tragic for the NK people, while “Dear Leader” Caligulas orgy and gorge to fatness.
It’s just part of Kim Jong Il’s attempt to keep up with modern military theory with his Don’t Feed, Don’t Eat policy.
It is really telling to look at your average North Korean Soldier and your average South Korean..
Same genetics pool (one Generation removed) same *type* of diet and yet the Avg North Korean is at least 6 inches shorter than the average North Korean..
This has already been done and it didn't work. The US, South Korea and China give the North food in exchange for non-compliance on most issues. GHB, GWB, Clinton and most likely Obama will play this game. Every third world nation that wants the bomb is playing this game and the US is losing. Our leaders can't seem to figure out how the world has worked in the last twenty years.
No food to the NK government - only steak to the army if they overthrow the government (and rice to the rest of the country).
might want to edit :)
North Korea’s system is unsustainable and coming apart fast, which leads to the million dollar question: what are they willing to do in their desperation?
If NK regime collapses and SK take over political and military control of NK, DMZ will still stay, while NK will gradually "grow out of" slow motion massacre inflicted upon them by Kim Jong-il. The lasting legacy of Kim Jong-il. It will haunt Korea for a long time, and serve as a black mark on NK sympathizers. They will remain walking proofs for decades.
This is a great time to send more helium balloons loaded with food care packages to the NorKs. What would be really cool is to have an rc helium dirigible with autopilot software.
It’s mission would be to carry a decent payload of canisters loaded with food attached to parachutes, fly near those military bases, drop the food and fly back home. Reload it and send it back out again.
Think of it like the Korean version of the Marshall Plan.
Lil’ Kim would be furious, apoplectic and have a conniption fit beyond measure! LOL!
Is it because of another unexpected bad harvest and traumatic weather pattern that mysteriously seems to affect only the countries that utilize collective farming and central planning?
on some days with favorable wind, they are said to reach deep inside NK all the way to the area just to the south of Pyongyang or part of Hamkyong Province.
Many of these items are apparently raining down on areas in the North not far from DMZ.
I have friends who emigrated from South Korea. He’s about 5’6”, she’s a bit shorter. Their daughter, born here is 6’2” tall, and stunningly gorgeous! If I was younger,,,,,,,
That's my first reaction. Is anyone familiar with KOREA TIMES?
All I know is that there sure are a lot of "famines" in NK. Same with Zimbabwe.
How can we financially help these groups? Does anyone know of an legitimate organization where we can send donations to that will help fund the balloon care package flights?
I did some searching around and found this group that is send balloons.
It’s 85% humor but perhaps SK should invest in MRE-firing arty to stop an invasion in its tracks.
They want to keep the DMZ wall up now more than ever.
Let the wall fall on the other side. This is China’s mess & they ought to clean it up.
Pro-liberation anti-Kim clique black ops based clandestine broadcasts, cell phone usage to spread the word (even use the damned DPRKs own Koryolink if one has to, through various methods) balloons with flyers, underground printing presses, text messages, word of mouth rumor campaigns, shortwave broadcasts any and all kinds of couriers, should kick off and ramp up defection/disloyalty enticement programs promising food (and gold bollioun if they bring over various weaponry or sabotage property of the current Kim Dynasty/KWP elite leadership such as Junior Kim's train carrying provisions in the Northern Region), on a tiered level, to soldiers and officers of the KPA in these areas. At the same time, powerful imagery along with motivating text re: Kim Jong il and Kim Jong Un has been fat and stuffed to the gills (which they are) should accompany such enticement programs to create hatred and enmity towards the Kim Inner Circle. An army travels on its stomach. The DPRK has a VERY SOFT UNDERBELLY in this regard, this is becoming a real achilles heel that, under a normal American President committed to ridding the world of this menace and helping liberate its people, could be exploited to the max.
I expect the NK's to have this sort of paranoia but I doubt anyone seriously plans to invade. There's nothing there that anyone (including South Korea) wants.
Worst Case: A few surgical sorties, a few well-placed MOABs, will be the extent of the campaign against NK. After that, the west can leave the Norks to their own devices for a few decades.
This will begin to mark the downfall of the Boy, before he even had a chance to rise. Resentment toward these most arrogrant, elitist Pyongyang-based comments by K.J.U., the "Youth Captain" SHOULD BE EXPLOITED within disatissfied sectors of the Korean Peoples Army, from the grassroots up, from squad units to sections to platoons to companies to batallions to division to regiment to Corps levels. The former titles bestowed upon him which did not make him high enough in DPRK military rank upon the Party's reflection, should be used tongue in cheek and against all recent orders prohibiting the further use of such previous titles, such as the "Young General", or the "Youth Captain."
Agree with what you say. Desperation, if these accounts are true; could lead to a NORK troop crossing that is completely un-coordinated. It would be what sets it all off (starving NORK soldiers crossing the DMZ armed, SK lighting them up and the NORK's that are not aware of the crossing open up themselves. it's on.)
They are on the verge of war so it could be war prep dis-information. On the other hand, NK has a lot of soldiers to feed.
The NK “locusts” might not have the strength to make it over the DMZ. Those that do might just surrender for a meal.
I must have missed that. That would explain a lot, wouldn’t it? Collective countries have such supply shortage problems they never can deal with unexpected disasters.
No wonder NK is going nuts. They must have lost so many crops, etc.
In Korea, they usually drain the rice paddys in mid-August and harvest in October. A typhoon in early September could well have severely diminished what rice it didn’t destroy.
What if they were to throw a war, and the NK troops show up with their bowels and chop sticks?
There was a show on tv about soldiers that serve near the DMZ. I think it mainly talked about the SK soldier. One of the requirements was that they had to be at least 6 ft to do duty up there. It might even pertain to US Marines also. The thinking behind this was that it be more intimdating to the NK army. I would also say that most if not all the NK army is conscripted and only those chosin to be in the special forces receive the best of the nutrition because with the NK old generals and Kim they use these special forces to control and protect their collective asses.
I’d like to see them make a run for the border to Kimchi Bell!