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Tragic Video of CH-46 Sea Knight Crashing Into Ocean
ChicoER Gate ^ | 1/3/10 | Chuck Wolk

Posted on 01/03/2011 7:02:37 AM PST by Tina Grazier

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At 12:47 p.m. on December 9, 1999, the CH-46 Sea Knight lifted off from the Bonhomme Richard as the lead of five helicopters on an exercise to train Marines how to "take down" a hostile ship at sea. While SEALs boarded the ship from rubber boats, the Marines would lower themselves hand over hand from a rope dangling from the hovering helicopter. As part of the exercise, the Marines lugged assorted weapons and breaching tools, including 16-pound hammers and 30-pound cutting torches.

Hosted by imgur.comThe Sea Knight proceeded uneventfully to a designated holding pattern 10 to 12 miles behind the rear of the target ship, the oiler Pecos, manned mostly by civilians. At 1:06 p.m., with 10 miles' visibility, a 3-knot breeze and an air temperature of 60 degrees, the helicopter was given approval by the Pecos to begin an approach. At an initial speed of slightly more than 100 mph and an altitude of 100 feet, the helicopter headed toward the ship.

When the helicopter was about a quarter-mile behind the Pecos, Cpl. Adam Johns, a member of the flight crew, told one of the pilots, Capt. James Lukehart Jr., that the helicopter was "coming in fast."

"Yep, I'm going in fast," Lukehart replied as he slowed things down.

Lukehart and the other pilot, Capt. Andrew Smith, cut speed to about 60mph and kept the aircraft at an altitude between 65 and 100 feet.

Smith gave a one-minute warning so the Marines could unbuckle and prepare to stand and lower themselves through the hell hole. Smith then gave a 30-second warning, by which time all the Marines were standing.

SEALs in boats behind the Pecos thought the helicopter was flying low; perhaps the Marines planned to land rather than hover. Marines aboard the CH-46 observed an inordinate amount of propeller wash in the water.

The chief mate aboard the Pecos, assigned as a landing safety officer, saw the helicopter at 100 yards out and began to provide arm and hand signals for the pilots to increase power and altitude. But he was dressed in white, not the traditional yellow for......

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KEYWORDS: bloggersandpersonal; ch46; crash; navair; navy; seaknight; seanight; usmc
I know it's been over a year, but I never found anything posted about this. Anyway, my continued prayers go out for the family's who lost loved ones in this tragedy.
1 posted on 01/03/2011 7:02:41 AM PST by Tina Grazier
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To: Tina Grazier
I know it's been over a year...

Huh?

2 posted on 01/03/2011 7:04:45 AM PST by rickmichaels
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To: rickmichaels

oops, I meant 10 years.

Now I know why OneVike didn’t post his article here.

Oh Well.


3 posted on 01/03/2011 7:08:17 AM PST by Tina Grazier
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To: Tina Grazier

Very sad. Shocking video to see.


4 posted on 01/03/2011 7:10:47 AM PST by momtothree
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To: Tina Grazier

The standard practice of “fast roping” does not involve lowering oneself “hand over hand”. It’s more like a fireman’s pole.


5 posted on 01/03/2011 7:12:13 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Tina Grazier
NorCal Blogs

I know it's been over a year

11 years, 3 weeks, 4 days


6 posted on 01/03/2011 7:41:29 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Tina Grazier

It was apparent from the video that the fast approaching aircraft sink-rate was too fast for the pilot to arrest the descent without either hitting the water or the deck of the ship.

Sad.

However, he was pilot in command of the aircraft and the excuse that he should be relying on someone on deck to give him directions seems rather poor.


7 posted on 01/03/2011 7:56:17 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Tina Grazier
Thank you Tina Grazier.

This reminds us that even in peace time our armed forces face many dangers.

Semper Fi!

8 posted on 01/03/2011 8:44:01 AM PST by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: Tina Grazier
I think that's called dynamic rollover. The pilot should have just dumped the collective and not even attempted to take off once he landed giving everyone a chance to jump out before it could have fallen off the deck.
9 posted on 01/03/2011 8:58:27 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: rickmichaels

bump


10 posted on 01/03/2011 10:32:01 AM PST by E38
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I can’t remember what the name of the effect is exactly but “dynamic rollover” doesn’t sound quite right and when I looked it up, dynamic roll over requires one landing gear to be on a hard surface and for the CG to be tilted way off the center of lift.

What happened in this case was that the deck side of the rotors get more lift due to the increased ground effect (deck effect?) lift whereas the sea side of the rotors see less ground effect as they are higher off the ground (sea). Note that when the copter is coming in, the rear (sea) side dips.

I did more poking around to find the exact phrase but this was the best I could do, http://www.helicoptercrashes.com/helicopter-operational-terms . Note the height of “In ground effect” vs. “Out of ground effect”. Sorry but I never did find the exact phrase.


11 posted on 01/03/2011 11:12:09 AM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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12 posted on 01/03/2011 5:22:44 PM PST by magslinger (Samuel Colt, feminist. Making women equal to men for over 150 years.)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi; Jack Hydrazine

The helo crashed as a result of dynamic rollover. If you look closely, the port main landing gear is hooked on the safety net. Ground effect does not really cause power requirement differentials between the two rotor systems in the H-46 to significantly affect the attitude of the aircraft except in the ground cushion area of about 2 -3 feet.

For ground effect to cause problems, the aircraft would need to have the whole front rotor system over the ground, the whole aft rotor system not over the ground (never happens because of the design of both the airframe and the flight control system) and the aircraft would need to be overloaded.


13 posted on 01/04/2011 7:04:42 AM PST by Francis McClobber
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To: Francis McClobber

Thanks. I missed the landing gear being caught in the net.


14 posted on 01/04/2011 9:48:42 AM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: Francis McClobber

Remarkable video. Reading the text on the webpage, it references a “heicopter flotation device” that failed to deploy. I wasn’t aware such a thing existed. Couldn’t find any info..nor any reasons as to why it didn’t work. Can you provide any more data? Thanks


15 posted on 01/04/2011 1:23:26 PM PST by ken5050 (I don't need sex.....the government screws me every day..)
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To: ken5050

The system is the Helicopter Emergency Flotation System (HEFS). It consisted of two inflatable balloons located just forward of each stubwing. It was an afterthought add on in the 90’s that was supposed to deploy automatically, but had problems where water vapor would cause the blivets to deploy. Looked pretty funny.


16 posted on 01/04/2011 7:00:42 PM PST by Francis McClobber
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To: Francis McClobber

Many thanks....have there been any successful emergency deployments of HEFS? Thanks


17 posted on 01/05/2011 8:18:11 AM PST by ken5050 (I don't need sex.....the government screws me every day..)
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To: ken5050

Not sure. I believe the procedure was to manually deploy the bags prior to hitting the water if practical, but that would assume the crew had enough control of the aircraft. In dire straits, blowing the bags is probably the last thing on the crews’ minds. I do know of one landing with the HEFS deployed where the bags separated from the aircraft once it hit the water. I guess the super glue they used to attach the balloons to the fuselage wasn’t quite up to Navy snuff.

Through the years, many successful emergency water landings, followed by takeoffs were recorded, sans water-wings. The HEFS was designed to keep the fuselage afloat, but it acts as a huge anchor once the aircraft is in the water.

In my opinion, the HEFS was a feel good band-aid to make the passengers and crew on board think they were safer.


18 posted on 01/05/2011 10:18:06 PM PST by Francis McClobber
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