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Posted on 01/09/2011 7:24:01 AM PST by KeyLargo
Giffords Shooter Jared Loughner Used a Glock 19 Posted on January 8, 2011 by Robert Farago
The Washington Post is reporting that TTAG’s Brad Kozak was right to say the media was wrong when they rushed to report that Rep. Gabrielle Giffords shooter Jared Loughner used an “automatic rifle” to carry-out his heinous crime. As Brad and I discussed, mortality is limited when you spray a large group of people with a full-auto rifle. Accuracy is difficult as people tend to hit the deck pretty damn quick. Look at the often amazing lack of lethality of drive-by shootings. Loughner had to have aimed pretty carefully to have shot 16 people (five murdered and 11 injured). That said, almost all the reports from the scene claim Loughner was “firing indiscriminately” . . .
The Post reports that Loughner used a Glock 19, originally claiming that the weapon had “an extended clip.” [The above image is from Loughner's Facebook page, deleted within minutes of the attack.]
The Glock 19 has a standard 15-round magazine. CNN reports that 18 people were shot. Either every one of Loughner’s bullets found a target (some more than one), the perp reloaded or he did indeed have a large capacity magazine. Glock sells magazines that hold 19 or 33 rounds, which are banned in some states (as is the gun).
In any case, it’s clear that Loughner was no stranger to guns.
Yeah, it would be interesting to know where he procured this weapon. Did he buy it at a gun show or did someone provide it to him. The kid is a nut and I have to wonder if he would pass the background check to purchase one legally.
From another post it was said it was bought at a local Sportsmen Warehouse. That his application for it passed review.
You post is pointless. Firearms bans are different from mag bans.
Yes. I’m a Sig Sauer man, but once shot a G19 with 33 round mag.
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To shoot Giffords "through and through" the head with hollow point ammo is unlikely and would almost certainly resulted in death.
He could have used a 17 mag, but I imagine he used one of the 31 round glock mags made for the Glock 18 machine pistol.
Correct. And to which a *plus 2* accessory magazine bottom can be added, giving a total of 33 rounds, exactly the way my own Glock 17 is fitted. With two of the magazines taped end to end and side-by-side, allowing a change to the second magazine by pushing the mag catch, withdrawing the mags, a flip of the wrist and a reinsertion of the loaded mag.
Happily, the Tucson shooter didn't know that trick.
To shoot Giffords "through and through" the head with hollow point ammo is unlikely and would almost certainly resulted in death.
Tucson area radio news reports stated that he had purchased 100 rounds of ammunition from an area Wal-Mart store, after having been refused a similar purchase in another Wal-Mart location due to his odd demeanor.
Most of the 9mm ammo available at the Wally World outlets hereabouts is 115 grain ball ammo, less effective terminally but known for better feeding reliability. As you say, had he been using a hollowpoint jacketed police load, Giffords' injury likely would have been much worse. Which leads to two other questions: the shooter was reportedly at near arms-length distance to her: did he aim for her head thinking she might be wearing a bullet-resistant vest or other garment?
A 10-round magazine for your Glock 19 will run you about $20.86, suitable for those jurisdictions where larger capacity magazines are restricted.
They were quite common when the federal *assault weapons ban* were a limiting factor. Indeedm, that law also prevented American soldiers from purchasing personal spare magazines for their 15-round 9mm Beretta M9 handguns.
This pertains to all this as well.
http://www.newser.com/story/109459/giffords-boasted-of-her-prowess-with-a-glock.html
Giffords bragging that she had a Glock 9 mm and was a pretty good shot.
Very violent response to a broken campaign office window, IMHO
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