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Carolyn McCarthy readies gun control bill
POLITICO ^ | SHIRA TOEPLITZ

Posted on 01/09/2011 10:52:29 PM PST by Sprite518

One of the fiercest gun-control advocates in Congress, Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.), pounced on the shooting massacre in Tucson Sunday, promising to introduce legislation as soon as Monday targeting the high-capacity ammunition the gunman used.

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To: The Cajun
What the hell is high-capacity ammunition???

It's that dangerous kind that they use to kill people with those really dangerous black guns that use clips

21 posted on 01/10/2011 12:52:55 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Sprite518

And so the “we-need-to-do-something-to-appear-to-be-doing- something” parade begins.


22 posted on 01/10/2011 1:43:34 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Sprite518

What a surprise! Who could have seen this coming.......< /s >


23 posted on 01/10/2011 2:01:19 AM PST by McGavin999 ("I was there when we had the numbers, but didn't have the principles"-Jim DeMint)
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To: pyx
And yet sadly, President Ronald Reagan helped greatly in bringing us the Brady gun control law.

If you mean being shot in an assassination attempt is "helped greatly" because the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act ("Brady Bill") was passed by the Democrat controlled Congress and signed by Bill Clinton in 1993.

24 posted on 01/10/2011 2:10:07 AM PST by newzjunkey (Well wishes to all the families affected by the Tucson shooting.)
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To: TXnMA
The Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act ("Brady Bill") was passed by the Democrat controlled Congress and signed by Bill Clinton in 1993.

It didn't come under Reagan or even Bush 41.

25 posted on 01/10/2011 2:11:57 AM PST by newzjunkey (Well wishes to all the families affected by the Tucson shooting.)
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To: Sprite518

“high capacity ammunition”, Whew...I’m glad he used a 9mm, means my .45ACP is safe, right?

On a serious note, I’m grateful he didn’t use anything more effective than a 9. Had this maniac been using a pistol chambered in .45 ACP, .40 S&W or others, the Gentlewoman from AZ would not be here. Along with maybe a dozen others.

Thank God it wasn’t worse than it was.


26 posted on 01/10/2011 2:23:36 AM PST by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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To: Sprite518

No amount of gun law will undo the violence perpetrated against McCarthy’s husband and son. I remember the incident well.

It’s enough to criticize her judgment - she doesn’t deserve the personal attacks.


27 posted on 01/10/2011 2:33:44 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Sprite518

I’m just curious, what exactly is high capacity ammunition? Isn’t there anyone fact checking articles these days? That and “clips” for magazines just scream ignorance.


28 posted on 01/10/2011 4:21:21 AM PST by 1malumprohibitum
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To: paul51

well if they out law high capacity clips for pistols we are all safe because pistols use magazines.

Right off hand, I can not think of any pistol that uses a clip and the only rifle I can think of is the M1 Garand, which uses an 8-rd en bloc clip.

Perhaps there is a FReeper who is a clip expert who can enlighten us.


29 posted on 01/10/2011 5:37:42 AM PST by TxDas (This above all, to thine ownself be true.)
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To: Sprite518
targeting the high-capacity ammunition the gunman used.

HUH???? I want some of that high-capacity ammunition!! < /s>

30 posted on 01/10/2011 6:15:17 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (America has two cancers - democrats and RINOS.)
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To: All

how this mental defective keeps getting elected is beyond me.


31 posted on 01/10/2011 6:17:49 AM PST by newnhdad (The longest of journeys begins with one step.)
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To: TxDas
The Glock has a receiver at the base of the grip where a modified magazine or high capacity magazine can be used. There are some that carry 30 rounds. These are very awkward, difficult to carry or conceal and make accuracy difficult.

There are several Semiautomatic pistols that have this feature.

That being said, this will not deter CRIMINALS, it will only ease their fear, knowing that they are now less likely to be opposed or out gunned by their victims.

32 posted on 01/10/2011 6:23:17 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: TxDas
M-1 Garand’s had “Clips”. which were thrown away after the rounds were fully used. They were not reusable/relaodable/removable magazines like hunting rifles use. When the “Clip” was empty, it was ejected violently out the top of the receiver, making a loud “Ping” noise, which alerted the enemy that this weapon was empty.

They also loaded from the top and held 8 rounds. They were difficult to reload and was one of their weaknesses. The Japanese learned this trick during Banzai charges and used it with limited success. Marines also learned this tactic and staggered their fire accordingly. The 30-06 round was extremely powerful and with Ball Ammo, they were capable of killing 3 enemy soldiers with one round. The Jap’s learned this the hard way during their futile Banzai charges.

The M-1 Garand was designed and built under the specs if Gen. George S. Patton. This is also one of Patton's greatest contributions as to why we won WW 2.

33 posted on 01/10/2011 6:46:16 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: The Cajun
*** What the hell is high-capacity ammunition??? ***

1) Keep n mind this article is written by a ditz reporterette so any correct firearm verbage or firearm facts are irrelevant.

2) Further on in the the article it says;

'McCarthy’s spokesman confirmed the legislation will target the high-capacity ammunition clips.

another idiot ditz, as its Magazine not, 'clip'.
I use 'clips' for my 8mm Mauser(1) but not my 9mm Star Model B(1), or my 9x18 Makarov(1)

I always note on gun article who the 'reporter' is. 99.956% of the time it's a female. (gotta be a union rule) /s

(1) I luv 'old' guns from WWII and buy them with my C&R license. All good shooters.
The Mauser was Brand New & covered in cosmoline. That's my 'Main Battle Rifle'.

34 posted on 01/10/2011 6:59:15 AM PST by Condor51 (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: ScottinVA
The thing to do is look at why mentally deranged people aren't headed off before the event. The last three mass shooters were all well known wack jobs - as were many others.
35 posted on 01/10/2011 7:17:25 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: TxDas
Right off hand, I can not think of any pistol that uses a clip and the only rifle I can think of is the M1 Garand, which uses an 8-rd en bloc clip. ... Perhaps there is a FReeper who is a clip expert who can enlighten us.

I'm no Clip Expert', but I know a 'little'. I have a C&R license and collect WWII era firearms (and 'some' that are 50 years and older from the 'cold War' era.(1))

But except for the Mauser, SKS and Mosin-Nagant 'clips' are/can be hard to find. Looking for 'Surplus Ammo' is the best bet to get ammo already on 'clips'. But hand loading 5 rounds into the internal magazine isn't that big of a deal. It's like a loading a Remington 700.

(1) The BATF decides which 'old' guns qualify. Some American 'sporting' guns are classified as C&R. And some 'old' Military Firearms that should be, aren't)

36 posted on 01/10/2011 7:43:07 AM PST by Condor51 (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: Condor51

I am familiar with “stripper” clips but was thinking of the en-bloc variety. They supply 5.56 Nato with clips you strip in to the magazines. The old battle Mausers and Enfields would toss the clip when you closed the bolt IIRC.


37 posted on 01/10/2011 8:42:26 AM PST by TxDas (This above all, to thine ownself be true.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

The nice thing about Glocks is you can use Model 17 mags in a shorter Glock like the 19. I have shot the 30 rd mag and it is impossible to load with just a thumb abd is even difficult with snappy loader like the Lula.

The 33 rd mag was made to be issued with the full auto variant of the Glock 17 -the Glock 18 which has lots of Youtube videos of it in action..


38 posted on 01/10/2011 8:52:06 AM PST by TxDas (This above all, to thine ownself be true.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

The US troops also learned to carry an expended clip to throw down after they had fired 5 rds. The enemy, hearing the distinctive ping of the clip hitting the ground, would get up and charge, thinking the M1 was empty, and thereby get plugged by the clever American.


39 posted on 01/10/2011 8:55:41 AM PST by TxDas (This above all, to thine ownself be true.)
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To: Sprite518

Never waste an opportunity to exploit a crisis. Especially when you can add tens of millions of dollars to the legislation to replenish the RAT Slush Fund.


40 posted on 01/10/2011 8:58:02 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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