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Jogger who shot and killed unarmed teenage 'mugger' released without charge (Tampa, Florida)
Mail Online (UK) ^ | 01/13/11 | Paul Thompson

Posted on 01/13/2011 3:51:54 PM PST by Gena Bukin

When Thomas Baker was confronted by two youths while out on a late night run he decided to defend himself.

Having been punched in the face and fearing his attacker was armed he pulled out a handgun from his pocket and shot dead the teenager who had hit him.

As the gun debate rages afresh across America in the wake of the Tuscon massacre, prosecutors in Florida have ruled Baker should not face any charges, even though 18-year-old Carlos Musteller did not have a weapon.

Citing the state's 'stand your ground' law they ruled the 28-year-old was entitled to protect himself.

Under the 2005 law people have the right to use deadly force as long as they 'reasonably believe' their life is in danger.

The controversial ruling will fuel the raging nationwide debate over firearms in the wake of the Tucson shooting.

Baker was out jogging alone after midnight near his home in Tampa, Florida, when he was confronted by Mustelier and a 16-year-old youth. The teen told told police Mustelier decided he wanted to rob Baker, telling him: 'I'm going to bam him.. I'm gonna knock him out.'

Baker told investigators he was suddenly confronted by Mustelier who punched him in the face.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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Long story short: Man is out jogging when he is confronted by two "youths" who are out to rob him. One youth punches jogger in the face. Jogger pulls out a legally concealed .45 and ventilates youth. Youth assumes room temperature. Apoplectic British press call youthful mugger a "victim" and compares jogger who defended himself to Jared Loughner.
1 posted on 01/13/2011 3:51:57 PM PST by Gena Bukin
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To: Gena Bukin

Well that will help the state budget somewhat. Every little bit helps.

I have a feeling the incident will go a long toward cleaning up crime in the area.


2 posted on 01/13/2011 3:55:32 PM PST by Outrance
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To: Gena Bukin

The most effective deterrent to thuggery is a story like this repeated in the media as frequently as needed.


3 posted on 01/13/2011 3:55:56 PM PST by corkoman
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To: Gena Bukin

And in other news, Tampa authorities are perplexed at a unexplained drop in crime locally....


4 posted on 01/13/2011 3:56:21 PM PST by Tea Party Reveler
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To: Gena Bukin

Talk about misunderstanding the title. Good call, Judge.


5 posted on 01/13/2011 3:56:51 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Rules will never work for radicals (liberals) because they seek chaos. And don't even know it.)
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To: Gena Bukin

Anyone have pics of the yoots?


6 posted on 01/13/2011 3:57:20 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Gena Bukin

Another way to give this article perspective:

Imagine you are a fairly small country with a fairly small army, but you have nuclear weapons. Now imagine another country with low WW I style technology is sending in a military force that is five times the number of people in your entire population.

What do you do? You nuke them, of course.

There is no “tit for tat” in self defense. You punch me, I punch you, etc.

IOW, if you are gonna attack someone, make sure you are better armed than they are.


7 posted on 01/13/2011 3:57:28 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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even though 18-year-old Carlos Musteller did not have a weapon.
Well, TFB for him wasn't it?
On another subject - can you get more macho than jogging w/ a loaded .45 after midnight in Tampa? Ooh-rah!
8 posted on 01/13/2011 4:00:19 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Gena Bukin

I love a story with a happy ending.


9 posted on 01/13/2011 4:00:41 PM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: Gena Bukin

*sigh*

I love a happy ending.


10 posted on 01/13/2011 4:01:49 PM PST by digger48
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To: RobRoy

...and have your affairs in order.


11 posted on 01/13/2011 4:01:49 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 723 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Gena Bukin

Thank you, Mr Baker.


12 posted on 01/13/2011 4:03:04 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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Anyone have pics of the yoots?

Here's Carlos Mustelier:

And, for whatever reason, the Mail Online sought fit to post Loughner's creepy mugshot as well.

13 posted on 01/13/2011 4:03:52 PM PST by Gena Bukin
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To: RobRoy
IOW, if you are gonna attack someone, make sure you are better armed than they are.

Or in the words of the great 0bama, "If you bring a knife, we will bring a gun." He is so smart. All bow down to the great 0bama!

14 posted on 01/13/2011 4:03:55 PM PST by mc5cents (Government doesn't solve problems, it subsidizes them. -- Ronald Reagan)
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Sounds like a good shoot to me. Anyone who thinks two punks can’t kill you with their bare hands is an idiot. First they knock you out (as threatened), and then you are at their mercy. Head stomps? Kicks? We’ve all seen the videos showing what these animals can do when they have you defenseles. (And no, I have no idea what race anyone was. Two punks threatening to “bam” and knock someone out while robbing them are animals. Period.)

Again, good shoot.

PS Hey, UK, how’s that whole appeasing “youths” and islamic radicals thing working out for you? /spit


15 posted on 01/13/2011 4:04:24 PM PST by piytar (0's idea of power: the capacity to inflict unlimited pain and suffering on another human being. 1984)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

There’s a picture at the link. No surprise, it’s the Amish again.


16 posted on 01/13/2011 4:05:04 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: Gena Bukin

Mr. Baker needs to carry a sharpened screwdriver, bought at a garage sale, with cash, and not matching anything in his garage.....and carry it with him if he carries a gun.


17 posted on 01/13/2011 4:06:08 PM PST by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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To: Gena Bukin

The fact that he only shot one of them shows he had a great deal of mercy and restraint.

That or the other guy go out of Dodge before he could draw a bead on him.


18 posted on 01/13/2011 4:09:09 PM PST by Nachoman (Wisdom is learned, cynicism is earned.)
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To: Gena Bukin
Just taking out the trash the illegals refuse to take out.
19 posted on 01/13/2011 4:09:22 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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Having been punched in the face and fearing his attacker was armed he pulled out a handgun from his pocket and shot dead the teenager who had hit him.

Beautiful! What an uplifting, heart warming story.

20 posted on 01/13/2011 4:09:36 PM PST by Bullish
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