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Deputy shoots dog twice, owner calls it overreaction
Wink News ^ | January 13, 2011 | Unknown

Posted on 01/14/2011 10:52:47 AM PST by Immerito

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To: Immerito

it’s Palin’s fault.


41 posted on 01/14/2011 12:00:11 PM PST by tweakDU
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To: Darren McCarty

If only they cared more about Peelian principles than they did “the blue line”.

Incidents like this are enough to make one wonder if cops are even taught about Robert Peel any longer.


42 posted on 01/14/2011 12:07:32 PM PST by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: piytar
I’m getting tired of mentioning that most cops are good cops, these are the violent/bad cops. Where’s the outrage from the good cops? Even to me, it’s starting to sound like the “most muslims condemn violence, it’s only the violent/bad (”extreme”) muslims” line...

Sad but true. Cops are out of control. I've got one brother-in-law who resigned as an SF cop some years back because he didn't like seeing the rowdy behavior of the other cops. If you didn't go along with them you were ostracized. I've got another brother-in-law SF cop who used to tell me stories of chasing down suspects and beating the snot out of them, only to find they were not the culprits. He's mellowed out over the last 20 years. But this violent mindset is prevalent in many cops and getting worse.

43 posted on 01/14/2011 12:07:54 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Balding_Eagle

Have you watched ANY documentaries on Germany, the USSR, or China?
___________________________________________________

I forget which documentary I was watching, it was something in a South American country.

Anyhow, I wouldn’t want to live third world but for whatever reason as I watched, it made me realize how much freedom we lack here in the USA.

Some were in neighborhoods and had a pig, chickens yada. Some women made little cakes and sold them (all sorts little things, can’t recall all)

It just made me think as these things came up—we couldn’t do that, zoning, we couldn’t to this without this permit, that permit, this license, that license, inspections—you name it.

Like I said, some of that I wouldn’t want at all—but the point that got me— was that they can and I knew that we can’t.

We sure give up many freedoms to be ‘civilized’.


44 posted on 01/14/2011 12:13:18 PM PST by Irenic
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To: Immerito

Let’s see how many of the Peelian principles this crime violated:

(Source: http://thelawdogfiles.blogspot.com/2008/04/police-are-public-and-public-are-police.html )

In order to mollify those who believed that professional police were “a curse and a despotism”, and secure their aid in creating his professional police force, Sir Robert Peel developed what became known as The Peelian Principles; which are considered to be the basic foundation for all modern policing:

1) The basic mission for which the police exist is to prevent crime and disorder.

2) The ability of the police to perform their duties is dependent upon the public approval of police actions.

3) Police must secure the willing co-operation of the public in voluntary observation of the law to be able to secure and maintain the respect of the public.

4) The degree of co-operation of the public that can be secured diminishes proportionately to the necessity of the use of physical force.

5) Police seek and preserve public favor not by catering to public opinion, but by constantly demonstrating absolute impartial service to the law.

6) Police use physical force to the extent necessary to secure observance of the law or to restore order only when the exercise of persuasion, advice, and warning is found to be insufficient.

7) Police, at all times, should maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent upon every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.

8) Police should always direct their action strictly towards their functions, and never appear to usurp the powers of the judiciary.

9) The test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder, not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with it.


45 posted on 01/14/2011 12:15:43 PM PST by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Lurker

These incidents are occurring in such diverse areas of the nation that it inclines one to suspect that a national or interstate policy is afoot.


46 posted on 01/14/2011 12:19:03 PM PST by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: allmendream

>Wow, so a Police Officer, searching for a suspect - can go into your back yard without a warrant, shoot your dog, and then fine you almost $300 for the dog “menacing” them?
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>And they wonder why some people do not like Police Officers.

The other day I was talking to my brother abut the University’s “Parking Nazis,” and said something like:
“I wouldn’t be surprised if, when they witness someone breaking into a car, they yell ‘hey, don’t forget to take the parking sticker!’ and then cite the owner of the car for parking w/o a permit.”

Law ‘Enforcement’ is DEFINITELY getting less and less respectable; even if you aren’t a cynic like I am.


47 posted on 01/14/2011 12:22:49 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: GBA

“What sort of police state do we live in where they can come onto your private property and kill your pet inside its fenced in yard?”

You might ask Randy Weaver. They can also get away with murdering your wife.


48 posted on 01/14/2011 12:24:38 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: TexasRepublic
True, more or less. For that one, Lon Tomohisa Horiuchi cost GovCo $3.8 million for killing, I mean, for the wrongful deaths of Sammy and Vicki Weaver.

According to his Wikki write up, in the out-of-court settlement, the government did not admit any wrong-doing.

49 posted on 01/14/2011 12:36:50 PM PST by GBA (Not on our watch!)
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To: Immerito

Dammit, Sarah!


50 posted on 01/14/2011 12:42:12 PM PST by DPMD (~)
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To: GBA
Speaking of crazy people and consequences, I thought : the following quote is very interesting in light of recent events:

For the five months following the Waco inferno, Timothy McVeigh worked at gun shows and handed out free cards printed up with Horiuchi's name and address, "in the hope that somebody in the Patriot movement would assassinate the sharpshooter". He wrote hate mail to the sniper, suggesting that "what goes around, comes around", and debated putting aside his plan to target the Murrah Building to instead simply target Horiuchi, or a member of his family.[8]

If you want to stir people up, I've noticed that unrestrained tyranical government action works pretty well.

51 posted on 01/14/2011 12:53:53 PM PST by GBA (Not on our watch!)
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To: Immerito

The key to finding the suspect and not shooting the dog is, “what did the dog do in the backyard?”

“The dog did nothing, until we arrived.”

“Corret! Ergo, the suspect wasn’t in the yard; if it barked at, and menaced, you, it would also have barked and menaced the suspect.”

Stupid badges can’t think; just react.


52 posted on 01/14/2011 12:54:38 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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To: Immerito

I’m beginning to wonder if they are shooting the dogs because they want to shoot something - target practice?


53 posted on 01/14/2011 12:54:53 PM PST by Wicket (God bless and protect our troops and God bless America)
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To: Immerito

Expect the usual contingent of JBT-boot lickers here to defend these POS cops.

It always happens.

FR is infested with cops-can-do-no-wrong authoritarian statists.


54 posted on 01/14/2011 12:57:54 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine (I'm shocked! Shocked to find out that gambling is going on in here!)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

I see you’ve had run-ins with fredomwarrior998.


55 posted on 01/14/2011 1:01:01 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Immerito

Let me see if I got this right....

Animal was contained it it’s own backyard, on private property.

Officer enters backyard, Illegally, without a warrant, and is attacked by said animal.

Officer, who is illegally in backyard without a warrant, dispatches said animal with extreme prejudice.

Said officer should be relived of duty, charged with a criminal offence of tresspassing on private property, discharge of weapon resulting in death, and tried by a jury of his peers.

this should just about cover it


56 posted on 01/14/2011 1:11:10 PM PST by joe fonebone (The House has oversight of the Judiciary...why are the rogue judges not being impeached?)
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To: org.whodat

It was a FOXhound, not a greyhound. Oh, but maybe the irresponsible pet owner was allowing the dog to bother deer in the back yard.


57 posted on 01/14/2011 1:14:49 PM PST by Politicalmom (America-The Land of the Sheep, the Home of the Caved.)
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To: ApplegateRanch
Yes, once the police officers noticed that there was a guard dog on duty in that back yard, that started barking when THEY intruded, it should have immediately dawned upon their thick skulls that the suspect was almost certainly NOT in that particular back yard.

It is a good thing most criminals are absolute morons, because cops are freaking idiots!

58 posted on 01/14/2011 1:15:22 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: org.whodat

Oops. Ignore the second half of that. I got my posters mixed up. Sorry.


59 posted on 01/14/2011 1:16:29 PM PST by Politicalmom (America-The Land of the Sheep, the Home of the Caved.)
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To: Politicalmom
No there is a picture of the dog with his wound , it is a pit bull, there was a picture of some sort of Hines57, it is not the one shot.
60 posted on 01/14/2011 1:20:00 PM PST by org.whodat
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