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Military widows asked to repay benefits after remarriage
CNN ^ | 1/15/2011 | Rich Phillips

Posted on 01/15/2011 9:34:51 AM PST by vmpolesov

Brooksville, Florida (CNN) -- Freda Green thought the battle was over when her husband returned from the Vietnam War.

But more than seven years after his death in 2003, she says the U.S. Defense Department is demanding she repay more than $41,000 in benefits the government shelled out as part of an insurance policy he paid into.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: military; widows
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1 posted on 01/15/2011 9:34:55 AM PST by vmpolesov
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To: vmpolesov

The Defense Department needs this money to pay for the $500,000 in upgrades to buses they are buying to give FREE transportation to people who have a job, at the MARK cntr, to get moeny from widows...what is wrong with this picture?


2 posted on 01/15/2011 9:37:17 AM PST by q_an_a (a)
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To: vmpolesov

>she then cashed the check, paying more than $6,000 in taxes.

Ah, Government, where paying your taxes is not enough to prevent them from taxing or seizing your property.
“I’m sorry miss, but the price for...protection, just went up.”


3 posted on 01/15/2011 9:45:00 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: vmpolesov
Military benefits to a surviving spouse have always ended with remarriage nothing new here.
4 posted on 01/15/2011 9:45:08 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: q_an_a

I thought the bureaucratic bumbling in this article was typical. They gave her 45 days then two weeks later started collections (two weeks is considerably less than 45 days).


5 posted on 01/15/2011 9:45:19 AM PST by vmpolesov
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To: vmpolesov

OH PUL-LEEEZE!


6 posted on 01/15/2011 9:48:10 AM PST by FrdmLvr (Death to tyrants)
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To: vmpolesov

This is well known. I bet the woman knew this and just kept quiet. Now she has to pay back what was not hers to have.


7 posted on 01/15/2011 10:01:28 AM PST by napscoordinator
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I bet the woman knew this and just kept quiet. Now she has to pay back what was not hers to have.

Reading the article it doesn't appear that there was any intent to defraud.

9 posted on 01/15/2011 10:07:07 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: vmpolesov
From the article:

When her husband died...determined were military-related, Green had to choose between collecting his pension or a separate monthly benefit from the Veterans Administration.

She chose the latter.

In addition to the monthly benefit, the Pentagon sent her more than $41,000 from the government-sponsored insurance policy her husband purchased.

Green said she received the lump-sum check shortly after his death.

It prompted her to call the Defense Department for an explanation, she said.

"I called Air Force finance, and they said, 'No. That's your money.' I was afraid...they made a mistake."

The letter from the Air Force reads: "Because Jerry died from 100 percent service-connected disabilities, all of the money he paid for survivor's benefits is to be refunded."

"That's what they told me," she recalled.

Green said she then cashed the check, paying more than $6,000 in taxes.

In 2009, a federal judge ruled survivors could get both of the original benefits if they remarry after the age of 57.

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If I understand this correctly, she's getting the $41k paid as a refund, not as a benefit, then she has the priviledge of paying taxes on it and now the gov't wants it ALL back, this woman will have essentially paid $12k to the gov't if she's not "credited" the original $6k she paid.

Plus, Finance stated it was a REFUND of premiums paid. It's not a benefit.

I'm not going to presume to know how ALL of this works because they deliberately make it confusing as hell sometimes, but this one appears to be sticking it to the spouse.

10 posted on 01/15/2011 10:20:07 AM PST by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: napscoordinator

Yeah but this is a supplemental plan that her husband PAID into, it is not a free plan. Wouldn’t that be different?


11 posted on 01/15/2011 10:24:53 AM PST by panthermom
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To: vmpolesov

Scam by the insurance companies

More:

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local-beat/Military-Death-Insurance-Payouts-Come-Under-Fire-99507304.html


12 posted on 01/15/2011 10:30:08 AM PST by Sparky1776
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To: org.whodat

My mother is friends with a couple who have been living as husband and wife for 20 years, just not on paper. The reason is so the woman can still keep her widow’s benefits.


13 posted on 01/15/2011 10:32:02 AM PST by TheDingoAteMyBaby
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To: Sparky1776
From the link - Some are criticizing insurance companies Prudential and Met-Life for making money off the death benefits.
I've dealt with Met-Life over the last 10 years and they're as screwed up as Hogan's goat - grossly unethical if not illegal.
Example: I received notice in December 2008 that my dental policy would be continued for another year with the same monthly premium - $45. I agreed, but when they sent the first bill the rate had been increased.
When I canceled they said I still owed for the first month. I told them to come and get it.
14 posted on 01/15/2011 10:42:08 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: SZonian

A further question would be whether the $41k in premiums payed by her deceased husband were paid on a pre-tax basis. If not then they got double taxed, and the government is going for triple-taxing.

Also was the $41k return of premiums inflation adjusted when she received it or not?

Also there is the damage this causes in the form of current and prospective future military members observing this kind of treatment.


15 posted on 01/15/2011 10:44:14 AM PST by vmpolesov
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To: vmpolesov

And yet, we have people walk across our border who get free services starting on day one. Does anyone demand they pay it back? Hell no.

So yeah, let’s go after those damned widows. Makes sense to me. /s

There are times when I honestly... well, never-mind. You’re thinking it too.


16 posted on 01/15/2011 10:45:00 AM PST by DoughtyOne (All hail the Kenyan Prince Obama, Lord of the Skid-mark, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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To: vmpolesov
Gates says "Money required for stunning new accessories for new elite Gays Only Squad" - Widow can go pound hetero sand.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

17 posted on 01/15/2011 10:47:22 AM PST by The Comedian (Sarah Palin: America's last, best hope.)
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To: vmpolesov

Why do all these crazy regulations seem to encourage shacking up over marriage?


18 posted on 01/15/2011 10:47:56 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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Same reason welfare for decades was better for the unmarried woman and even better yet the more out of wedlock children she had.


19 posted on 01/15/2011 10:57:00 AM PST by therut
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To: Dr. Sivana

Funny how that works, eh? ;)


20 posted on 01/15/2011 11:58:57 AM PST by BenKenobi
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