Posted on 01/16/2011 4:10:55 AM PST by marktwain
Well, that worked eh? WWI, WWII ~ set world records in deaths by gunfire.
The Pope ought to stop and think for a moment about that.
If “the Church” says this, then “the Church” is mistaken.
What the Catholic Church teaches is found in the Creeds and in solemn teaching documents of Councils and Popes.
News stories are full of things that “the Catholic Church” has “said” or “done,” when the person saying or doing something is a bureaucrat in some diocese, or some Cardinal shooting off his mouth.
The actual Catholic Church teaches both the Principle of Subsidiarity and the Right of Self-Defense. Therefore, the Catholic Church CANNOT teach that citizens should be made helpless before criminals and government.
The title should say “Roman Catholic Church”.
We Baptists are armed to the teeth, and we highly encourage others to do so.
So you’re say that the US Conference of Bishops isnt part of the Catholic Church?” ________________________________
Re-reading my own post, I think it is crystal clear what I said. However, I will give a tip. The answer you seek is in the basic arithmetic.
And so the Catholic Church hoists another sail moving it into MORE irrelevance....
That “Church” is dying and Satan's World is beginning to infiltrate the church leaders. Oh well, so much for “tolerance” and Progressive change.
I suspect that the article is an attempt by liberal Catholics to make Church doctrine out of their own political biases.
A great many Germans are freedom loving people, it just happens that most of them immigrated to the United States over time. Germans contributed much to Western civilization. If you look at American's ethnic heritage, the greatest single group share German roots.
Still, the crowd left behind really do believe in this “state monopoly on violence” doctrine. That’s why it never occurs to them that they should do anything when the authorities go nuts.
Alex Murphy, Is that you?
Silly at best.
So the USCCB wants the lion to lay down with the lamb. Good for them. It’s a policy statement on which I, as a good Catholic disagree. It doesn’t make me any less a good Catholic and I would love to have a chance to sit down with the good bishops and argue the point over tea.
So what?
quietly opposes firearms for civilians, quietly endorses armed security for high-enough Church officials?
Then you weren’t paying attention. I hope you look into it and come back to Christ and his Church.
As we pray you come back to Christ and his Church.
First time I’ve heard following Christ as brainwashing.
You will notice, if you read the article, that the Pope says nothing that resembles what’s in the headline.
This is a piece of Leftist crap bilge originating with the reporter and the Catholic News Service—who are NOT “the Catholic Church.”
The Church was fine until Vatican II in 1965; at that point it abandoned tradition and embraced new-age, feel-good, kumbaya relativism. Vatican II sounded the death knell of the traditional Catholic Church. The Church now is stacked high with left-wing social activists. Sorry, but I didn’t leave the Church so much as the Church left me.
You wrote:
“So you’re say that the US Conference of Bishops isnt part of the Catholic Church?”
It has exactly ZERO standing in the official authority structure of the Church. ZERO.
Write to the Pope about that. I don’t handle headline complaints.
The idea of linking private US gun ownership with illegal trafficking around the world is why I often get out my tin-foil hat whenever I hear about the “global small arms trade”. From what’s here, it looks like I was right.
“Alex Murphy, Is that you?”
Sorry, I did not catch the reference.
Does the Church do anything to correct these errors? If a group puts forward error as official Church policy, it can do considerable harm, as can be seen by the comments on this thread.
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