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Where Do Bad Ideas Come From? And why don't they go away?
Foreign Policy ^ | January/February 2011 | Stephen M. Walt

Posted on 01/16/2011 10:58:47 AM PST by EveningStar

We would all like to think that humankind is getting smarter and wiser and that our past blunders won't be repeated. Bookshelves are filled with such reassuring pronouncements, from the sage advice offered by Richard Neustadt and Ernest May in Thinking in Time: The Uses of History for Decision Makers to the rosy forecasts of Matt Ridley's The Rational Optimist: How Prosperity Evolves, not to mention Francis Fukuyama's famously premature claim that humanity had reached "the end of history." Encouraging forecasts such as these rest in part on the belief that we can learn the right lessons from the past and cast discredited ideas onto the ash heap of history, where they belong.

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1 posted on 01/16/2011 10:58:47 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

History repeats itself because human nature is static.


2 posted on 01/16/2011 10:59:37 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: A_perfect_lady
"History repeats itself because human nature is static."

Where have I seen that before?

Good judgment comes from experience and experience comes from bad judgment.

3 posted on 01/16/2011 11:03:16 AM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: EveningStar

Those who want to be slavemasters will use any means to attain their power. Democrats want everyone on the Liberal Plantation.


4 posted on 01/16/2011 11:04:34 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yeColubrus on the bailout)
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To: VRWC For Truth

“Those who want to be slavemasters will use any means to attain their power. Democrats want everyone on the Liberal Plantation.”

Not everyone. Some of us are too uncooperative:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/election/480


5 posted on 01/16/2011 11:07:25 AM PST by devere
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To: EveningStar
Satan-"father of all lies"
6 posted on 01/16/2011 11:11:31 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: EveningStar
Where Do Bad Ideas Come From?

The Left, because they want to destroy us so that they can rule.

And why don't they go away?

Because they have free promotion from every institution of public education, whether media, schools, or universities.

7 posted on 01/16/2011 11:13:38 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: EveningStar

Looks like Walt is up to his old tricks - “It’s DA JOOOOOS fault!”


8 posted on 01/16/2011 11:16:56 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: EveningStar

Stupidity is free. That is why so many people have so much of it.


9 posted on 01/16/2011 11:27:11 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: EveningStar

Every day, new people who don’t know anything are being born. They will make the same mistakes everyone has always made.


10 posted on 01/16/2011 11:28:12 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: A_perfect_lady
Many bad ideas come from power-hungry men who are willing to exploit the voting power of the foolish.

"The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

And, rather unfortunately, the foolish, the "idiots" usually turn out to be the poor, the "oppressed", the minorites, the women. In other words, the liberals, the progressives, the Democrats...

"The America of my time line is a laboratory example of what can happen to democracies, what has eventually happened to all perfect democracies throughout all histories. A perfect democracy, a ‘warm body’ democracy in which every adult may vote and all votes count equally, has no internal feedback for self-correction. It depends solely on the wisdom and self-restraint of citizens… which is opposed by the folly and lack of self-restraint of other citizens. What is supposed to happen in a democracy is that each sovereign citizen will always vote in the public interest for the safety and welfare of all. But what does happen is that he votes his own self-interest as he sees it… which for the majority translates as ‘Bread and Circuses.’

‘Bread and Circuses’ is the cancer of democracy, the fatal disease for which there is no cure. Democracy often works beautifully at first. But once a state extends the franchise to every warm body, be he producer or parasite, that day marks the beginning of the end of the state. For when the plebs discover that they can vote themselves bread and circuses without limit and that the productive members of the body politic cannot stop them, they will do so, until the state bleeds to death, or in its weakened condition the state succumbs to an invader—the barbarians enter Rome." — Robert A. Heinlein

11 posted on 01/16/2011 11:34:16 AM PST by flowerplough (Thomas Sowell: Those who look only at Obama's deeds tend to become Obama's critics.)
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To: EveningStar

We can learn from our own mistakes, but only if we do something different does it matter, but if people did accordingly to profit from their mistakes and the mistakes that have been made in the past we would not be making these comments, there would be no such thing as socialism, communism, Nazism.

The tax gatherers would be sending thank you notes to all tax payers, the highway patrolmen would be washing peoples windshields, and in general the public servants only concern would be to keep this country FREE.

No, this world does not learn from mistakes, because we all
do not think alike.

Except that in a sense we are all like Hitler and Obama, we think we should be the ones to tell other people how to live.


12 posted on 01/16/2011 11:39:58 AM PST by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofs)
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To: A_perfect_lady

He lost me in the first sentence by writing “humankind” instead of “mankind”. I know that due to women’s lib, some words such as mankind are considered offensive to feminists, but, certainly a serious writer will not give into political correctness.


13 posted on 01/16/2011 11:50:07 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: A_perfect_lady
Let me take a slightly different tack from that in the article and cite one minor and obviously unimportant bit of history the author seems (inadvertently, of course) to have overlooked.

In the happy 1930's it seemed to some, with no real basis of course, that the wicked Germans and their allies might be up to something nasty. The Oxford Union in 1933 passed a resolution declaiming, "That this house will in no circumstances fight for its King and Country." Shamefully, there were some horrid warmongers such as Winston Churchill around who found this message of peace unsettling. Then, after years of appeasement consistent with the Oxford Resolution, Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain met twice in Germany (it would have been unseemly to ask a leader of Herr Hitler's stature to travel to England) with the highly honorable gentleman and, in receipt of some reassurances of peaceful intent, agreed not to stand in the way of the peaceful German incorporation of Czechoslovakia and other unimportant countries. Chamberlain returned home and announced to much acclaim the achievement of Peace in Our Time!

This Berchtesgaden-Godesberg ploy worked so very well back then that I simply cannot understand why President Peacemaker Obama is so luke warm in bringing it to full fruition now with the benign rulers of other peaceful countries. We have nothing to fear from them and besides they are too powerful to oppose in any meaningful way.

Ah, for the good old days of peace and happiness.

May I get off the bus, please?
14 posted on 01/16/2011 12:09:33 PM PST by DanMiller (Dan Miller)
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To: EveningStar
The author misrepresents the theme of Matt Ridley's The Rational Optimist and then goes on to state no "dominoes" fell after the U.S. withdrew support from Viet Nam in 1975.

This gives me good reason to doubt his analytical abilities. No, I did not finish the whole article.

15 posted on 01/16/2011 12:42:25 PM PST by BigBobber
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To: Carry_Okie
Where Do Bad Ideas Come From? The Left, because they want to destroy us so that they can rule. And why don't they go away? Because they have free promotion from every institution of public education, whether media, schools, or universities

So follow the dots. They aren't going away - probably getting more entrenched & with an oligarchy controlling the masses bankrupting us to enslavement.....well you get the picture.

16 posted on 01/16/2011 12:54:41 PM PST by Digger ((If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election))
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To: EveningStar
Q. Where Do Bad Ideas Come From?

A. Stephen Walt

Q. And why don't they go away?

A. I don't know, but I sure wish that Walt would go away.

17 posted on 01/16/2011 1:44:07 PM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Digger
They aren't going away - probably getting more entrenched & with an oligarchy controlling the masses bankrupting us to enslavement...

It is possible to undercut their support, which I do with my native plant habitat restoration projects (all private). My results give me the moral authority with those greenies who care more about results than they do about political loyalties. When I connect those dots for them, explaining that they are dupes for global corporate intrigue, showing the money trail through tax-exempt foundations and the payoff in selective regulation, they do listen.

18 posted on 01/16/2011 2:19:44 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: EveningStar

.....And why don’t they go away?....

Because there is a nearly endless supply of young girls who think they are on earth to make a difference and have not a clue


19 posted on 01/16/2011 2:25:52 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: EveningStar

Bad ideas come from hatched bad eggs, of course. Eliminate the bad eggs before they hatch (Bad Socialist Idea)... Here is my bad idea: Mandatory Spinal Taps ONLY for all future drug testing for EVERYBODY... period & if you use or have every used or have an ancestral linkage back to the pot smoking “Ice Man”, your license for breathing “shared” oxygen, procreating, & future thought will be revoked! Drug Testing Controversy. CURED! Once & for all.


20 posted on 01/16/2011 4:04:42 PM PST by Birdsbane ("Onward through the fog!" ... Oat Willie)
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