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Beautiful men, women are more likely to be smarter with high IQs, too: study
nydailynews.com ^ | Jsnusry 16, 2011 | Michael Sheridan

Posted on 01/17/2011 5:52:26 AM PST by ilovesarah2012

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To: SeeSac

Ah. OK.

The demeaning opinion she voices of certain population segments is carried over into her founding of Planned Parenthood.

I see my mistake now - it’s a chicken and egg issue. Because I acknowledge her support for eugenics, I see support for eugenics in a quote about immigration. Which may be true, but is certainly circular.


61 posted on 01/17/2011 7:22:35 AM PST by MortMan (I am in no mood to be amused! (Ebenezer Scrooge))
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To: ASA Vet
Who is this?

vaudine

62 posted on 01/17/2011 7:23:08 AM PST by vaudine
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To: SeeSac

Perhaps I misunderstod you then? In post 35, you seemed to be saying that Margaret Sanger was NOT “one of the leading voices of eugenics.” I was merely offering evidence that she most certainly WAS a proponent of eugenics. My apologies if I got you wrong.


63 posted on 01/17/2011 7:28:08 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Is beauty the same as pretty?


64 posted on 01/17/2011 7:34:31 AM PST by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: ilovesarah2012
I think the smarter you are, the more money you make.

Therefore, the more money you make... you can afford to dress better, take better care of your teeth, have your hair done, ect.

It's not that they are prettier, it's that they are able to do more with what they have been given.

The girl in the picture is proof.

65 posted on 01/17/2011 7:37:35 AM PST by kara37
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To: ilovesarah2012

Beauty is highly subjective


Yet it’s very easy to detect patterns when you survey a range of subjects about a set of photos. Which is how science works.

My explanation is that pretty women can have the pick of men, and smart (rich) men can have their pick of women, so they tend to pick each other. Which results in kids that are above average smarts and looks.


66 posted on 01/17/2011 7:37:43 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Mr. K
Even smart, well educated people can benefit from spell check. :D
67 posted on 01/17/2011 7:39:52 AM PST by Ditter
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To: ilovesarah2012
"Beautiful men, women are more likely to be smarter with high IQs, too"

Of course. And to post on Free Republic!

It all goes together.

68 posted on 01/17/2011 7:40:15 AM PST by Savage Beast (The Left is everything that it claims to hate.)
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To: grey_whiskers

The gorgeous redhead Jill St. John a genius. Imagine that.

I DO know that the numerous from behind views of Ms. St. John in “Diamonds Are Forever”, made me utterly stupid...


69 posted on 01/17/2011 7:43:04 AM PST by EyeGuy (RaceMarxist Obama: The Politics of Vengeance)
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To: ilovesarah2012
I like this comment from the original:
Mia007
4:55 PM
Jan 16, 2011
Really? That's why Hollywood has produced so many nobel prize winners and Einstein was mentally challenged.

70 posted on 01/17/2011 7:46:57 AM PST by Savage Beast (The Left is everything that it claims to hate.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
How about this gem from the NYDailyNews Comments:
"There is a cultural bias against persons who some would say aren't blessed with symmetrical looks. "Lookism" is another form of discrimination."
Great. Now we've got yet another Victim Class to tip-toe around less we be accused of "Lookism"!

Would we be "Lookists"?

"Lookers" is more like it!

All right, all you Lookers out there! Tone down the rhetoric!

71 posted on 01/17/2011 7:58:21 AM PST by Savage Beast (The Left is everything that it claims to hate.)
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To: SeeSac; MortMan

Aristotle once noted that even circular logic is OK as long as the circles are small enough. Sanger’s immigration quote does not merely “show” a general support for eugenics, but crosses the line by seeking to deploy the power of government to coerce the removal of tainted genotypes from the gene pool. She is thereby providing a functional definition of eugenics as the basis of immigration policy, grounding removal, not merely from the country, but from the gene pool, as a way to maintain “the stamina of the race,” the holy grail of eugenics. To dismiss the evidentiary value of this quote is to ignore the proposition for which it was offered in proof, that Sanger clearly was an avid proponent of eugenics, regardless of the policy area in which that support was manifested.


72 posted on 01/17/2011 8:04:04 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Mr. K

Don’t confuse intelligence with common sense.


They are not the same, but they are HIGHLY correlated.


73 posted on 01/17/2011 8:07:18 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Springfield Reformer
To dismiss the evidentiary value of this quote is to ignore the proposition for which it was offered in proof, that Sanger clearly was an avid proponent of eugenics, regardless of the policy area in which that support was manifested.

I think I see the point. This (see below) is definitely pro-eugenics and we should not support this policy. We should have 'open-doors' when it comes to immigration except on security issues. I was mixing eugenics up with euthanasia.

“Keep the doors of immigration closed to the entrance of certain aliens whose condition is known to be detrimental to the stamina of the race, such as feebleminded, idiots, morons, insane, syphilitic, epileptic, criminal, professional prostitutes, and others in this class barred by the immigration laws of 1924.”

74 posted on 01/17/2011 8:09:40 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: Springfield Reformer
Political "Brains-vs.-Beauty" Sarcasm Torpedoes ARMED. FIRE ONE!!

If that's the case, it doesn't say much for Michael Moore, Bill Maher, or Michelle Obama, does it?

FIRE TWO!!

OK, I'll bite. Who's smarter, Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann?

Cheers!

75 posted on 01/17/2011 8:20:50 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Red Badger

It explains Helen Thomas. ;o)


76 posted on 01/17/2011 8:21:43 AM PST by super7man
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To: EyeGuy
Well, we're certainly showing a little more cheek than usual, aren't we?

I'm afraid all your problems are behind you now...

Cheers!

77 posted on 01/17/2011 8:22:42 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Beauty comes from within.

Intelligence can enhance it.

Many women, I have noticed, are not exactly beautiful, when you stop to think about it, but give the impression that they are. I'm sure the same is true of men.

Remember this?

"Scarlett O'hara was not pretty, but men seldom realized it when caught by her charm."
I'm quoting that from memory; so I probably didn't get it exactly right.

There was an interesting program (a re-run I think) on TV the other night about the human body.

It made the point that Greeks of the classical period discovered that exaggerating certain physical characteristics actually increases beauty and vibrancy. This is why people in the art of the classical period are so much more beautiful and vibrant than in the archaic period--why they appear so alive. The artists improved on the normal by exaggerating certain features.

The program then observed that we do the same thing today in our own personal grooming. Women wear makeup. Men groom themselves in certain ways. In verious ways we emphasize certain characteristics and de-emphasize others to give ourselves the best presentation. We do these things almost instinctively.

I learned at an early age to be meticulous about my appearance--i.e. to dress for the occasion. If I were applying for a job I would arrange my appearance accordingly. If I were courting, I would focus on that. Etc.

Some people do this sort of thing better than others, and those who do it well are probably skewed toward the more intelligent.

This improves on "beauty" and gives smart people an advantage.

78 posted on 01/17/2011 8:24:08 AM PST by Savage Beast (The Left is everything that it claims to hate.)
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To: SeeSac
Beautiful men, women are more likely to be smarter with high IQs, too: study

On the one hand:



On the other hand:


79 posted on 01/17/2011 8:26:01 AM PST by aruanan
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To: SeeSac
It is a quote on immigration. That was why I was confused as to it being posted.

The whole point of eugenics was to 'purify' populations of what the proponents consider 'undesirable' traits and genes. Sterilizing them or restricting them from immigrating were, to Sanger, simply two means to the same end.
80 posted on 01/17/2011 8:28:05 AM PST by TalonDJ
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