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Life's tough for $144,000 garbage collectors
World Net Daily ^ | January 22, 2011 | Gene Koprowski

Posted on 01/23/2011 6:25:43 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants

Health care and pension benefits for state and local government employees are out of control, experts are telling WND, and a new study by a think tank points to New York City as being emblematic of the fiscal crisis.

Taxpayers in the Big Apple are forced to pay $144,000 a year for salary, health and pension benefits for garbage workers, who are unskilled but unionized laborers.

Research by the Manhattan Institute, a think tank in New York, shows that when Mayor Michael Bloomberg took office after 9/11 the city increased spending on garbage workers' salaries by three and a half times the rate of inflation every year, growing the sanitation department budget from $1.3 billion a year to $2.2 billion.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democratpayback; garbage; newyorkcity; unions
Give a Rat a couple of million for his re-election and get back $900 million in "free" money.
1 posted on 01/23/2011 6:25:47 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Give a Rat [Bloomberg] a couple of million for his re-election and get back $900 million in "free" money.
2 posted on 01/23/2011 6:29:24 PM PST by umgud
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Not that I think garbage collectors should make way over the average, but $144,000 might be the same as $60,000 in the Midwest. The media, conservatives included, don’t account for the differences in costs of living around the nation, but instead use it as part of their agenda—be it to dump on the unions, or to start class warfare.


3 posted on 01/23/2011 6:29:46 PM PST by madison10
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To: Blood of Tyrants

are these the same sanitation workers that messed up the snow plowing on purpose and people died?


4 posted on 01/23/2011 6:30:38 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Sleeping Queens sanitation worker photographed through the window of his truck.


5 posted on 01/23/2011 6:35:01 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: madison10
Just for comparison....union operators are $42/hr here in the cornfields of IN. laborers are over $30/hr.

Teamsters would be somewhere in the mid-to-high 30s

6 posted on 01/23/2011 6:35:56 PM PST by digger48
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To: madison10

“The media, conservatives included, don’t account for the differences in costs of living around the nation, but instead use it as part of their agenda—be it to dump on the unions, or to start class warfare.”

Your assertion is ridiculous. The cost of housing is a big issue but otherwise the cost of living is reasonably similar. The cost of housing is a rather small part of the CPI so housing costs do not justify these ridiculous levels of compensation.

The reason is union thuggery. It was on display during the recent snowstorm. I doubt that $144,000 is a reasonable estimation of the union compensation. Public employee pension agencies do not want to provide reasonable assessment of the value of retirement compensation. With typical pension spiking practices, the true value of the compensation could by $200,000 per year.


7 posted on 01/23/2011 6:36:11 PM PST by businessprofessor
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“Give a Rat a couple of million for his re-election and get back $900 million in “free” money.”

Or if you’re China, get back a bunch of secret US tech.


8 posted on 01/23/2011 6:37:09 PM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (Capitol Hill operator 866-727-4894 toll free. Just say which Representative/Senator you want to spea)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

This is the second thread today that is linked to the Times and when I click the link, I get a security alert that something is wrong with the site.

Isn’t the Times a ‘pay’ site?


9 posted on 01/23/2011 6:40:56 PM PST by Outlaw Woman
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To: madison10
Not that I think garbage collectors should make way over the average, but $144,000 might be the same as $60,000 in the Midwest. The media, conservatives included, don’t account for the differences in costs of living around the nation, but instead use it as part of their agenda—be it to dump on the unions, or to start class warfare.

Why do you thing the "cost of living" is so much higher in such areas? It is the artificially inflated wages of even "entry-level" positions that continue to push the costs higher. Just like forcing a higher minimum wage - when everybody is making more money (at least those who keep their jobs after companies cut back...) push costs higher for consumers.

When garbage collectors are taking in $144K in salary and benefits, then it is no wonder a simply 2br. apartment costs as much as the payment on a $250K mortgage payment... and thank the Unions who continue to push these numbers higher.

10 posted on 01/23/2011 6:41:42 PM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: Outlaw Woman

Times? This article is linked to World Net Daily.


11 posted on 01/23/2011 6:46:10 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Outlaw Woman

Scratch that, didn’t realize it was WND link. Now I’m confused... *sigh*


12 posted on 01/23/2011 6:46:37 PM PST by Outlaw Woman
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To: Blood of Tyrants

yeah..just posted an oops. I don’t know what the problem is but I’ve gotten 2 security alerts today. Never happens so it’s unusual. One was the Times article earlier today and then this one.


13 posted on 01/23/2011 6:48:09 PM PST by Outlaw Woman
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To: JoeProBono

What they don't tell you is that the worker was punch-knocked-out by the photographer.

14 posted on 01/23/2011 6:50:05 PM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: madison10

They do the same thing in reverse oddly, in the midwest - for example advocating for higher teacher pay e.g. “among the lowest in the nation”, never bothering to point out the cost of living is much lower.

It is cheaper to rent an apartment here than park a ca in NYC I bet.


15 posted on 01/23/2011 6:55:52 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: madison10

Why on earth should a garbage collector make $60,000, let alone $144,000? How much skill and thinking is required to pick up trash, throw it in a truck and drive it to a dump?

Are you out of your mind?


16 posted on 01/23/2011 7:05:40 PM PST by Joan912 (I used to think that the day would never come...)
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To: Joan912

They work long hours. Overtime. And it’s not the guys on the back of the garbage truck that get that kinda money, it’s the driver. He’s the crew chief.


17 posted on 01/23/2011 7:14:01 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Lazamataz


18 posted on 01/23/2011 7:14:13 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: JoeProBono
When I first glanced at that picture, I thought it was Charlie Rangel.

I realized my mistake when I noticed that the man in the picture is actually working for a living.

19 posted on 01/23/2011 7:26:47 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (They bring a Bible to a Memorial, we bring a T Shirt - Long Legged Mac Daddy)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

They make more than me and I have to pay all my exta goodies out of my yearly income. And I am a physician. Funny that.


20 posted on 01/23/2011 7:28:39 PM PST by therut
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To: madison10
...but $144,000 might be the same as $60,000 in the Midwest

Are you on LSD?

21 posted on 01/23/2011 7:29:43 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

ALL I’m saying is the costs of living vary greatly and what the mid/average wage is for the coast(s) (Pick one.) are not the same. You know darn well the average price for homes varies greatly. Is that not the cost of living? So why wouldn’t the mean for the wages work on the same scale?

‘Course I AM from Michigan...the average yearly income used to be higher here.


22 posted on 01/23/2011 7:47:17 PM PST by madison10
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To: Lancey Howard

I live in Manhattan. A bottle of Bud at a bar costs between 6 and 8 bucks depending on where you go. It doesn’t cost that in the Midwest. I make six figures and it does NOT go that far.


23 posted on 01/23/2011 7:50:33 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Lancey Howard

The city will be vacant someday. does anyone in NYC make less than 100 thousand a year?


24 posted on 01/23/2011 7:53:40 PM PST by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: All; thefactor
I live in Manhattan. A bottle of Bud at a bar costs between 6 and 8 bucks depending on where you go. It doesn’t cost that in the Midwest. I make six figures and it does NOT go that far.

Thank you for backing me up.

Then you add in the cost for heat, air, electricity, etc. and it COSTS alot. Some people, like our politicians, have no clue.

25 posted on 01/23/2011 7:54:56 PM PST by madison10
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To: thefactor
My guess is that most NYC garbage collectors do not live in Manhattan, but in one of the less expensive boroughs.

The same is true of Chicago. If you choose to live in “the Loop,” it's far more expensive than living in other parts of the city.

26 posted on 01/23/2011 7:58:57 PM PST by bwc2221 (.)
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To: madison10

Cost of living should have nothing to do with it. It should be simply supply and demand. Do you really think we need to pay garbage men $144k to get them to work?


27 posted on 01/23/2011 8:01:36 PM PST by pelican001
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To: thefactor
Yeah, we know $100K doesn't go far in N.Y.C., but do these guys all have to have rooms at the Lexington House?

Anyway, the Gambino Family runs the trash collection business in New York. Peter Gotti, John's brother, was in the business.

28 posted on 01/23/2011 8:02:11 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: bwc2221
My guess is that most NYC garbage collectors do not live in Manhattan, but in one of the less expensive boroughs.

How do you know?

29 posted on 01/23/2011 8:05:35 PM PST by madison10
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To: madison10; thefactor; Lancey Howard

>> >> A bottle of Bud at a bar costs between 6 and 8 bucks

>> Thank you for backing me up.

You guys hangin’ out at the same strip club?


30 posted on 01/23/2011 8:10:17 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Gene Eric

You living in Bug Tussle?

And I am NOT a guy.


31 posted on 01/23/2011 8:11:55 PM PST by madison10
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The water departments who usually bill for garbage too are little kingdoms all their own. Crooked to the core. The Water Boards are not even elected by the public.


32 posted on 01/23/2011 8:12:36 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: madison10
I didn't say I knew. I said “my guess is.”

I believe you said you were from Michigan. So am I and “my guess” is that not too many garbage collectors live in Birmingham, Bloomfield Hills or the Grosse Pointes.

If a garbage collector chooses to live in Manhattan, it's not the city's responsibility to ensure that he can enjoy a life of luxury.

33 posted on 01/23/2011 8:13:37 PM PST by bwc2221 (.)
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To: madison10

LOL - I’ll be quiet now..


34 posted on 01/23/2011 8:15:17 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Gee--you would think garbage collecting would be just another job Americans won't do.
35 posted on 01/23/2011 9:33:18 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: umgud
Give a Rat [Bloomberg] a couple of million for his re-election and get back $900 million in "free" money.

It is easy to be a socialist if you are rich. But if you are rich and a sociopath, Marxism is even easier.

36 posted on 01/23/2011 11:27:54 PM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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To: Gene Eric
Buds at a strip club cost $12.

A friend told me.

37 posted on 01/24/2011 4:42:49 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: JoeProBono

Awwwwe, and his earrings are so cute.


38 posted on 01/24/2011 7:01:26 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (Where is our military?)
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