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Gibbs: U.S. supports Egyptians' right to demonstrate
The Washington Times ^ | January 26, 2011 | Ashish Kumar Sen

Posted on 01/27/2011 3:09:31 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

The Obama administration on Wednesday voiced its support for the Egyptian people’s rights to freedom of expression and assembly, as a second day of protests in Cairo saw police using tear gas and rubber bullets to disperse stone-throwing demonstrators.

Speaking to reporters on Wednesday, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs declined to say whether the U.S. still supports Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, reiterating only that Egypt remains a “strong ally.”

“We have an unyielding belief that all people yearn for certain things: the ability to speak your mind and have a say in how you are governed; confidence in the rule of law and the equal administration of justice; government that is transparent and free of corruption; and the freedom to live as you choose. These are human rights, and we support them everywhere,” Mr. Gibbs said.

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Protesters are planning another massive demonstration after prayers on Friday. Their anger has been stoked by rampant poverty, rising prices and growing unemployment.

The Obama administration is closely monitoring developments in Egypt.

This is an "important time for the government to demonstrate its responsiveness to the people of Egypt in recognizing those universal rights," Mr. Gibbs said, adding that the U.S. expects Egyptian authorities to respond peacefully.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: demonstration; dnc4rioters; egypt; egyptriots; hisnibs; moslembrotherhood; obama4rioters; protest; riots; robertgibbs
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The Obama administration on Wednesday voiced its support for the Egyptian people’s rights to freedom of expression and assembly

VIOLENT assembly. It's what Obomas allies are calling for here.

The Tea parties were too peaceful. They didn't fit the progressive agenda. To the new left (old communists), peace is not the answer.

21 posted on 01/27/2011 5:58:39 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So we know (as if we didn’t already) which protests will be supported and...

which ones the government/media will not even mention here at home.

However, the point is unless the US stands behind a hard crack down (shooting into the crowd with live ammo {or like the Turks in the 60s - use jets dropping napalm, tank and arty fire on the crowds}), then Egyptisn Gov will fall and be replaced by one run by the Muslim Brotherhood.

The time for jabber is over, and now its kill or fall time. The more brutal the repression the more likely the ‘protests’ will end and the government survive. The more ‘kindly’ the response, the more likely the government falling is assured.

This is the muslim Middle East, not part of planet Earth.


22 posted on 01/27/2011 6:07:30 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: livius
coupled with Obama’s complaisant attitude

He's spent the last two years passing out other peoples money to his friends. That's all he's done, and the world is falling apart all around us. I don't know whether he deliberately wants Armageddon ( he thinks he's the 12th Emom? ), or the man is so incompetent, Armageddon will arrive through his ignorance.

(Anyway, his actions do support the Antichrist theory. He "destroys wonderfully.")

23 posted on 01/27/2011 6:10:38 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: livius; All
Very true. The Islamic countries of the Middle East are not going to be free in any case; the best we can hope for is political authoritarianism that is not unduly abusive and that supports a reasonably modern society. Jimmy Carter thought Khomeini would make a better leader for Iran than the Shah because the Ayatollah was a deeply religious man. Boy, did that naive fool Carter learn, and boy, did we all. Bringing full democracy to a backwards country, especially one full of Islamic fanaticism, is likewise a bad idea. You're liable to set up a situation of one man, one vote, once. Good thing Carter, with his foolish human rights program that undermined a number of our (necessarily) hardnosed allies, was unseated by Reagan, a wise realist who understood the need to support some unpleasant authoritarians when the alternative was not freedom, but rather the far greater evil of totalitarianism. Of course, he had at his side the brilliant Jean Kirkpatrick, the author of Dictatorships and Double Standards.
24 posted on 01/27/2011 6:35:28 AM PST by eater-of-toast ("It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones." -- Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

a few well placed bombs could change
the course of the Nile river,
thus putting Egypt out of business


25 posted on 01/27/2011 7:02:37 AM PST by Talf
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To: FromLori

“Demonstration or riot?” Ping.


26 posted on 01/27/2011 8:08:57 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

While 0bie and Biden the Slow ramble around the country trying to sell their “investment” program, the MidEast erupts. I agree that, just in the case with Carter, 0bama is going to attempt to give this a “benign neglect” approach until it gets so far out of hand the entire region will be in flames. Al-Qaeda has already said they’re behind the rioting in Tunisia. Is there any doubt their handprint is on the tumult in Egypt as well?

A real president would be monitoring this far more closely. But the concept of a “real” president has been absent for two years.


27 posted on 01/27/2011 8:17:42 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: eater-of-toast
Boy, did that naive fool Carter lea

Actually, judging by his recent, decidedly pro-muslim and anti-Israeli statements, I don't think Carter learned anything at all.

28 posted on 01/27/2011 8:19:45 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Their anger has been stoked by rampant poverty, rising prices and growing unemployment.

Yeah, just like rampant poverty, rising prices and growing unemployment were the "cause" of the attacks on 9/11.

29 posted on 01/27/2011 8:21:12 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hey Gibbs, could you say that in a weaker way?!!


30 posted on 01/27/2011 8:32:35 AM PST by my small voice
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To: livius

The sad thing about America’s friends in the region has been their utter callousness for the most part about the emancipation of their people - economically, socially, politically.

The 64Trillion question about this part of the world - are the secular forces strong and numerous enough to combat the propensity of the majority of the population to see Islam as the solution for governance - in Tunisia, I do think so, but it’s a small country with borders predating colonialism and a strong civil society not subject to the retrograde influences of the Mullahs.

Irony alert - Tunisia’s PM was refused asylum by Sarkozy despite the two playing kissypoo a couple of months ago.

So where’s the PM who banned the veil ended up?

Saudi Arabia!
I did see a brief shot of red and white kaffiyeh clad demonstrators - that means Saudi Wahhabi Salafis.

In Egypt, I fear the Muslim Brotherhood is poised for power.

However noble the task of encouraging dissent, as we have seen, Teheran 1979, the “Bolsheviks” can take over from the “Mensheviks”, being better organised and motivated.


31 posted on 01/27/2011 1:00:44 PM PST by swarthyguy (KIDS! Deficit, Debt,Taxes! Pfft Lookit the bright side of our legacy -America is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: DuncanWaring

Thanks for the ping. What a mess it’s not only Egypt and Tunisia it’s also Yemen, Algeria, Morocco (though Morocco has calmed a bit). Looks like trouble may be starting up again in Pakistan as well 3 American official’s are being charged with murder. That could be enough to set them off.

Thousands rally in Yemen, joining Tunisia and Egypt in anti-government protests

http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/thousands-rally-in-yemen-joining-tunisia-and-egypt-in-anti-government-protests-1.339517?localLinksEnabled=false

“Lahore police chief Aslam Tareen said the American was being questioned by the police and may be charged with both murder and illegally carrying a weapon: a Beretta pistol. The American shot both men after they pointed guns at him at an intersection, Tareen said.

“Diplomatic staff usually enjoy a certain type of immunity, but I am not sure about murder,” he said. “We will consult the Foreign Office and legal advisers in this regard.”

Police officer Atif Meraj later said that a murder case was officially registered against the American, and another case was registered against two other Americans for killing the pedestrian.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iWaI3mhOOu5QV6nIx_MFgKQIf-fw?docId=4cafe6f13f304675a5871278c73063d3

Algerian President Mulls Cabinet Reshuffle After Riots-Sources

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110127-717683.html

“Fitch considers a Tunisian-style uprising unlikely in Morocco in the medium term,” Maria Malas-Mroueh, a director on Fitch’s sovereign team, told an analysts’ conference call.”

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE70Q1H520110127

You know I don’t know that’s a hard call. On one hand as someone pointed out above obama said nothing when the Iranian’s were demonstrating and dying and we all thought of that as demonstrations. What if things become even worse here and obama becomes even more of a dictator and they started shooting us? Maybe now is the time to return to non intervention. Beside’s with the whole region being a powder keg and us being broke and obama as commander in chief maybe we should concentrate on our own security.

“The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations, is in extending our commercial relations to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop.”
George Washington

“Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations—entangling alliances with none, I deem [one of] the essential principles of our government, and consequently [one of] those which ought to shape its administration.” Thomas Jefferson


32 posted on 01/27/2011 4:03:02 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori">)
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To: ScottinVA

I just meant that Carter got a nasty lesson in Iran. And you’re right, he was fool enough that he didn’t learn anything broader from it regarding the Muslim world or Israel.


33 posted on 01/27/2011 10:42:11 PM PST by eater-of-toast ("It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones." -- Calvin Coolidge)
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To: eater-of-toast

Absolutely agree. He received the lesson, but he`ll never “get” it.


34 posted on 01/28/2011 2:29:42 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; screaminsunshine

>> But not the Tea Party.

>> Or Cubans or Venezuelans or Iranians and especially not the citizens of Arizona.

No doubt the first thought the crossed the mind of every
conscientious citizen.


35 posted on 01/28/2011 2:33:41 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: mewykwistmas
If you had a true dictator complete with secret police, you’d riot too.

According to the Vice President, Egypt has no dictator.

36 posted on 01/28/2011 2:33:48 AM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: Maceman
Funny. I don’t remember Obama supporting the Iranians’ right to demonstrate.

DING DING DING !!! WE HAVE A WINNER !!!

37 posted on 01/28/2011 2:34:51 AM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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