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Missouri House Bill HB 283Requires proof of identity and proof of United States citizenship.
State of Missouri ^ | January 28, 2011 | Self

Posted on 01/28/2011 11:36:22 AM PST by ncfool

Bill introduced to the Missouri House on January 24, 2011 dealing with the issue of Proof of United States Citizenship.



Summary of the Introduced Bill

HB 283 -- Declarations of Candidacy

Sponsor: Rowland

This bill requires each established political party to provide the Missouri Secretary of State with proof of the identity and proof of United States citizenship for each nominee for President and Vice President of the United States. The proof must be submitted with the other certification documents that are required to be filed with the Secretary of State pursuant to Chapter 115, RSMo.



Missouri House of Representatives 96th General Assembly , 1st Regular Session Activity History for HB 283



Date Jrn Pg Activity Description

1/20/2011 H 203 Introduced and Read First Time (H)

1/24/2011 H 208 Read Second Time (H)

INTRODUCED BY REPRESENTATIVES ROWLAND (Sponsor), KELLEY (126), COX, LOEHNER, ELMER, HINSON, PHILLIPS, KOENIG, RIDDLE, SHUMAKE, WELLS, POLLOCK, SCHOELLER, SMITH (150), FRANKLIN, FISHER AND LEACH (Co-sponsors) .





TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: abercrombie; arizona; barry; birthcertificate; certifigate; drudgereport; eligibility; florida; hawaii; iowa; kansas; kriskobach; missouri; naturalborncitizen; nebraska; obama; proofofcitizenship; soetoro
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To: TexasPatriot1
Last time I read there were 5 states with this type of legislation submitted. We need to get all these guys together and the support behind them. Here is Texas's version, a bit simpler.
82R302 JRJ-D

  By: Berman H.B. No. 295



A BILL TO BE ENTITLED

AN ACT
  relating to certification for placement on the ballot of candidates
  for president or vice-president of the United States.
         BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
         SECTION 1.  Section 192.033, Election Code, is amended by
  amending Subsection (a) and adding Subsection (d) to read as
  follows:
         (a)  Except as provided by Subsection (c) or (d), the
  secretary of state shall certify in writing for placement on the
  general election ballot the names of the candidates for president
  and vice-president who are entitled to have their names placed on
  the ballot.
         (d)  The secretary of state may not certify the name of a
  candidate for president or vice-president unless the candidate has
  presented the candidate's original birth certificate indicating
  that the person is a natural-born United States citizen.
         SECTION 2.  This Act takes effect September 1, 2011.

21 posted on 01/28/2011 12:11:14 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged; All
"It’s in the Constitution. However, a little thing like the Constitution can be shoved aside so as to put the Second Marxist President into the White House."


22 posted on 01/28/2011 12:12:35 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: P-Marlowe
The problem is not Obama's citizenship, it is his status at the time of his birth.

Well, that and his subsequent status after being adopted in Indonesia.

23 posted on 01/28/2011 12:13:26 PM PST by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: P-Marlowe
The problem is not Obama's citizenship, it is his status at the time of his birth.

Well, that and his subsequent status after being adopted in Indonesia.

24 posted on 01/28/2011 12:13:36 PM PST by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: Texas Fossil

I see two issues here. Besides citizenship versus natural born citizenship, the requirement should be more than just presenting the document(s) to the state’s SOS. The legislation should go one step further, and require the SOS to publish in some form or manner these documents as well.


25 posted on 01/28/2011 12:34:49 PM PST by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: agere_contra
The law better spell out “Birth Certificate” or it’s a waste of time.

It better spell out "Long Form Birth Certificate with signature of the attending physician and location of delivery" or it's worse than a waste of time. It'll be a deliberate attempt to defraud .

26 posted on 01/28/2011 12:35:49 PM PST by Roninf5-1 (If ignorance is bliss why are so many Americans on anti-depressants?)
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To: butterdezillion

It would also allow anchor babies to run for president.


27 posted on 01/28/2011 1:04:47 PM PST by IMR 4350
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To: frankenMonkey

You would be correct.


28 posted on 01/28/2011 1:29:11 PM PST by urtax$@work (The only kind of memorial is a Burning memorial !)
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To: Roninf5-1

It’s tricky. What about home births?


29 posted on 01/28/2011 1:38:26 PM PST by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Texas Fossil
candidate's original birth certificate indicating that the person is a natural-born United States citizen.

A Birth Certificate doesn't indicate the citizenship of the parents. Other documents showing the citizenship of the parents, at the time of the birth, would also have to be submitted to prove NATURAL BORN CITIZEN status.

30 posted on 01/28/2011 1:43:19 PM PST by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: ncfool

sfl


31 posted on 01/28/2011 1:46:42 PM PST by phockthis
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To: Roninf5-1
Asking specifically for the “long form” would be a ‘poison pill’ that would make this legislation unconstitutional according to the full faith and credit clause.

We need to pass legislation that requires the candidate to request the State of birth send proof of birth within that State directly to the SO-State to be put on the ballot of the State.

The form Hawaii says they issue for proof of birth within the State of Hawaii is the short form.

Why would the Hawaii DOH issuing the short form directly to the SO-State of the balloting State not be sufficient?

Better to swing for the fences and get a unconstitutional strike out? Or to hit the easy ball right over the plate and score a base hit towards our goal of ensuring that candidates are actually eligible?

32 posted on 01/28/2011 1:50:57 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: butterdezillion; All

“The laws basically just have to codify a particular definition of NBC and then let SCOTUS rule whether that definition is Constitutional. That’s the only way we’re going to get a definition of NBC.”

You are exactly correct in my opinion. Some State must “define” NBC in their law. This will get a definitive ruling from the SCOTUS.


33 posted on 01/28/2011 2:26:16 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: allmendream
Asking specifically for the “long form” would be a ‘poison pill’ that would make this legislation unconstitutional according to the full faith and credit clause.

It shouldn't be a problem in Hawaii. By law, any part of any certificate must be made available to a legal requester. The DOH can't arbitrarily decide not to give out a long form because they don't want to.

34 posted on 01/28/2011 2:27:05 PM PST by edge919
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To: ncfool

Freepers,

We need your help again.

Contact your friends or family in Missouri and ask them to encourage their State Representatives to support this bill.

Missouri HB 283
Requires proof of identity and proof of United States citizenship to be filed with declarations of candidacy and certifications of nomination for the office of President and Vice President


35 posted on 01/28/2011 3:14:16 PM PST by Jonah Vark (Any 5th grader knows that the Constitution declares the separation of powers.)
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To: ncfool; Second Amendment First; 47carollann; A Citizen Reporter; A Cyrenian; adrian; AFLoggie; ...
If I have to show my birth certificate to renew my drivers license - why shouldn't a potential presidential candidate need to show theirs to become a candidate?

Missouri ping

Low volume ping list

FReepmail me to be on, or off, this list.

36 posted on 01/28/2011 4:32:16 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe

Thanks for the ping, Joe. Two of the co-sponsors are from my area.


37 posted on 01/28/2011 5:00:17 PM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: ncfool; All

We definitely need a law that clearly states that the citizens have standing in a court of law when a Presidential or Vice Presidential Candidate claims “Natural Born” citizenship status when in fact he/she is not a natural born citizen. Obama has clearly been able to plead the fifth in covering up his birth records. I know his birth records do not prove his citizenship but they do list his parents, one of which is said to be a Kenyan if you are to believe his autobiography.


38 posted on 01/28/2011 6:14:01 PM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: P-Marlowe

Such written request shall include proof of identity and proof of United States citizenship for each candidate

I agree, was going to say the same thing.
There’s nothing in this bill that specifies the precise documentation that’s required. So they could get any corrupt democrat to sign off on a scrap of postit note and they’d call it golden.


39 posted on 01/29/2011 5:49:31 AM PST by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: allmendream
Asking specifically for the “long form” would be a ‘poison pill’ that would make this legislation unconstitutional according to the full faith and credit clause.

Why?

40 posted on 03/30/2011 12:39:23 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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