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The US agents tracking down sex tourists in Cambodia
BBC ^ | January 29, 2011 | David Henshaw

Posted on 01/30/2011 4:59:22 PM PST by decimon

As part of an initiative to protect children from sexual predators, including those who travel overseas, special US agents operating in South East Asia have brought more than 80 alleged child sex tourists back to America to face justice.

Sihanoukville looks like paradise, or at least a decent, low-rent version. Golden beaches, swaying palm trees, cheap alcohol and shimmering sea.

Retired American pharmacist Ronald Adams had come here for the good life - setting up a beachside cafe. But one morning last February Adams' personal vision of paradise was shattered, when officers from the Cambodian National Police raided his apartment.

They found a collection of sex aids, child pornography on DVDs and a variety of illegal drugs. Adams was accused of drugging and raping a 12-year-old girl.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: moralabsolutes; pedophile; sextourism; sextrafficking
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To: decimon
It always starts with something that everyone agrees with... in this case, monster predators that need to die.

But don't worry...

Soon, they will follow you everywhere and enforce US Law on you and especially deprive you of your money.

The Police State is just ramping up and needs to have a good reason to put their jackboots on your neck even when you're outside of the country.

21 posted on 01/30/2011 5:28:46 PM PST by Bon mots ("Anything you say, can and will be construed as racist...")
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To: MissouriConservative
It sets a pathway for the US government to prosecute other things you do in foreign countries.

It means you are effectively owned by the U.S. government.

22 posted on 01/30/2011 5:31:54 PM PST by decimon
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To: decimon; MissouriConservative
It would also, in theory, allow Japan to prosecute Japanese who come to America to enjoy relaxed gun rights.

It's a crime to even hold a gun in Japan.

This way, there be dragons.

23 posted on 01/30/2011 5:35:33 PM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: pnh102

I think that both countries probably have some sort of relationship. Maybe a treaty that both countries entered into. It’s not one sided.


24 posted on 01/30/2011 5:37:52 PM PST by goldi (')
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To: drpix

Damn good point and worth repeating.


25 posted on 01/30/2011 5:40:43 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: decimon
From the article: “If a US citizen is caught abusing children abroad, American agents are now on hand with the specific aim of getting the suspect on a plane to stand trial back in the US.”

From the Bill of Rights, Amendment VI (emphasis added): "In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence."

How do they reconcile what they are doing with the Eighth Amendment?

26 posted on 01/30/2011 5:50:05 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Lazamataz
It would also, in theory, allow Japan to prosecute Japanese who come to America to enjoy relaxed gun rights.

It's a crime to even hold a gun in Japan.

Excellent point. Maybe.

I really don't know if this pedophile hunting falls within the realm of treaties we have with other countries. Treaties regarding certain crimes and with extradition.

27 posted on 01/30/2011 5:51:17 PM PST by decimon
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To: unixfox
Including making money.

The ultimate crime.

28 posted on 01/30/2011 5:56:12 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 740 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: decimon

Ping me when they have tagged and bagged Barney Frank.


29 posted on 01/30/2011 5:57:41 PM PST by MrDem (Founder: Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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To: KrisKrinkle
How do they reconcile what they are doing with the Eighth Amendment?

I like the question but I haven't an answer. My reaction to the news article was to be glad the pedophiles will be prosecuted but to be worried at the process.

30 posted on 01/30/2011 5:57:50 PM PST by decimon
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To: MrDem
Ping me when they have tagged and bagged Barney Frank.

You'll grow old waiting for that ping.

31 posted on 01/30/2011 6:00:24 PM PST by decimon
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To: pnh102
We frequently hear of children here being raped by illegals. ICE is wasting our time and money enforcing other countries' laws while letting illegals roam free here at home.

Living proof that it's ultimately about control of all Americans, no matter where they live or go.

When I was born I was a citizen, apparently now I am a subject.

I wonder if they will be dusting off Dred Scott to claim world-wide jurisdiction/ownership?

32 posted on 01/30/2011 6:00:39 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 740 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Joyell

Does that include 18 year old high school girls having sex with their 17 year old boyfriends?


33 posted on 01/30/2011 6:01:25 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: ccmay

Does an eighteen year old girl having sex with her seventeen year old boyfriend fit the profile and definition of a pedophile? So, I take it you have sympathies toward pedophiles?


34 posted on 01/30/2011 6:04:24 PM PST by Joyell
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To: MissouriConservative
While I agree that sex with children is abominable, this is a minefield legally. It sets a pathway for the US government to prosecute other things you do in foreign countries.

More to the point, what do we say to foreign countries when they want to seize people from there who do things over here that they don't like? Will we cooperate with Saudi Arabia in the arrest and extradition of Muslims who convert to Christianity? Will we extradite people who "insult Islam"? This is a BAD precedent to be allowing, regardless of good intentions.

35 posted on 01/30/2011 6:16:52 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: mewykwistmas
(f) Definition. As used in this section, the term “illicit sexual conduct” means (1) a sexual act (as defined in section 2246 [18 USCS § 2246]) with a person under 18 years of age that would be in violation of chapter 109A [18 USCS §§ 2241 et seq.] if the sexual act occurred in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States; or (2) any commercial sex act (as defined in section 1591 [18 USCS § 1591]) with a person under 18 years of age.

So a US citizen can be prosecuted for an action that would be totally legal in the country where it occurred if it was performed by a non-US-citizen. There are counties which have age-of-consent being below 18.

36 posted on 01/30/2011 6:20:46 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: pnh102

Oftentimes, US courts have jurisdiction over US Citizens. There’s president there with income tax cases.


37 posted on 01/30/2011 6:22:50 PM PST by Darren McCarty (We should lead ourselves instead of looking for leaders)
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To: PapaBear3625

So a US citizen can be prosecuted for an action that would be totally legal in the country where it occurred if it was performed by a non-US-citizen. There are counties which have age-of-consent being below 18.

Yes as well as immigrated aliens (LAPR) according to the law. So does that mean that non-immigrated aliens and illegal aliens ar not subject to the jurisdiction of the US when abroad like US citizens and LAPR’s? So how can their children born in the US be citizens if their parents are not fully subject to US jurisdiction?


38 posted on 01/30/2011 6:26:37 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: Darren McCarty
make that precedent.

Personally, I don't like it. I'd like to see Cambodia take care of him their own way.

39 posted on 01/30/2011 6:26:47 PM PST by Darren McCarty (We should lead ourselves instead of looking for leaders)
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To: decimon

“..be glad the pedophiles will be prosecuted but to be worried at the process.”

Agreed.


40 posted on 01/30/2011 6:32:54 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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