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Bloomberg sending undercover cops to investigate gun shows... in Arizona?
washingtonexaminer.com ^ | 31 January, 2011 | Mark Hemingway

Posted on 01/31/2011 5:40:10 PM PST by marktwain

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg may prefer "No Labels" but in his case, I think "gun grabber" is a pretty fitting one. As part of his misguided crusade to tighten up gun laws nationally, The New York Times reports that Hizzoner sent undercover cops to gun shows in Arizona and found they were violating the law:

In two instances, the New York undercover officers specifically said before buying a gun, “I probably couldn’t pass a background check,” but were still sold guns, city officials said.

In a third case, an investigator bought a Glock pistol and two high-capacity magazines like the ones used in the Tucson shooting. Such purchases were made without any background check but were perfectly legal.

Mr. Bloomberg’s office, which will release details of the undercover investigation on Monday, has for years pushed for tighter firearms laws. Since the Tucson shooting, Mr. Bloomberg has enlisted in his effort Daniel Hernandez, an intern in the office of Representative Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona. The congresswoman was the most seriously wounded, and Mr. Hernandez held her until emergency personnel arrived.

While some shady things might have occurred at the gun show and the authorities should be made aware of the problem, I can't help but find New York's investigation very unseemly. Aside from gun shows in Arizona, you know where you can readily buy a illegal firearms without a background check? The streets of New York.

Bloomberg should probably keep his undercover officers dedicated to preventing crime in his own city, where the homicide rate is markedly higher than the state of Arizona.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; US: Arizona; US: New York
KEYWORDS: arizona; az; banglist; bloomberg; giffords; gunshow; newyork; ny
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It sounds as if Mayor Bloomberg's agents violated federal law, but it doesn't sound as if the Arizona gun sellers violated any law.

Private sales are perfectly legal in Arizona, and that is the way we intend to keep them.

The concept that the government could or should only “allow” certain people to have guns stands the very concept of American jurisprudence on its head. It presumes that the government knows all, controls all, and should be doing so. It is wrong and ineffective.

It is crazy to set up a huge expensive bureaucratic system, require everyone to jump though hoops and prove that they are *not* criminals in order to try, ineffectively, to prevent the few individuals who are not responsible, from having legal access to guns.

This is a failed paradigm, and it should be abandoned. To accept the idea that the all gun sales should be monitored by the government, and only allowed to those it deems satisfactory is fundamentally wrong.

The entire idea of the enterprise has always been the death of a thousand cuts, where the restrictions on who can buy, and where, and how and what are continually increased until the number of gun owners is reduced to political insignificance.

1 posted on 01/31/2011 5:40:21 PM PST by marktwain
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Very well said.


2 posted on 01/31/2011 5:43:11 PM PST by yarddog
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Let me see, I should believe anything NY undercover cops say, why? They are just tools of Bloomberg and he has a history of discredited actions and statements that push his agenda.


3 posted on 01/31/2011 5:47:05 PM PST by falcon99
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Wow, nice to see that New York has the funds to burn.
4 posted on 01/31/2011 5:47:14 PM PST by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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Why dosen’t BATF go after the “undercover” clowns that broke
or attmpted to break the laws? NO GUTS that’s why!


5 posted on 01/31/2011 5:52:27 PM PST by TaMoDee
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Perhaps Gov. Brewer should send a team of investigators to NYC to uncover the truth behind Bloomberg`s rather eager willingness to host that mosque near Ground Zero. The country would like to know what arrangements have been made, i.e. what kinds of business deals have been agreed to, etc.

So, watch your step, Bloomie. This sh*t can go both ways.


6 posted on 01/31/2011 5:52:38 PM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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Maybe he should concentrate on New York! He and his kind want to propagate their ideas beyond their jurisdiction. For this, he should be ashamed for his anti-Constitutional efforts. He really does have much more work to be done at home...


7 posted on 01/31/2011 5:53:22 PM PST by Deagle (t)
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The good people of Arizona know more about how to clear the streets of snow than Premier Bloomberg. I'd love it if some of these retailers posted signs reminding the czar mayor to plow the snow in his own city.
8 posted on 01/31/2011 5:53:59 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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They said that they “probably” wouldn’t pass which I’m sure that would have, so were any laws broken???


9 posted on 01/31/2011 5:55:31 PM PST by phockthis
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“Wow, nice to see that New York has the funds to burn.”

I had that same thought. If I was a NYC resident, I’d be PO’d that the city gov’t spent travel and per diem money for this provocation of a soverign state.


10 posted on 01/31/2011 5:56:15 PM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "p" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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Maybe he’ll run as a Statist next election.


11 posted on 01/31/2011 5:59:48 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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That is one big nose you have there, Bloomy.


12 posted on 01/31/2011 6:02:55 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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In two instances, the New York undercover officers specifically said before buying a gun, “I probably couldn’t pass a background check,” but were still sold guns, city officials said.

In a third case, an investigator bought a Glock pistol and two high-capacity magazines like the ones used in the Tucson shooting. Such purchases were made without any background check but were perfectly legal.

Federal law prohibits purchasing firearms across state lines without going thru an FFL. It appears the NYer's violated federal law.

13 posted on 01/31/2011 6:05:33 PM PST by umgud
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It goes without saying, Mike Bloomberg is a rich, power hungry communist and is not fit for public office in this country anywhere. Under his leadership it (quasi) comes to state against state? Hypothetically; NY against AZ, AZ would win because they have the guns!
14 posted on 01/31/2011 6:05:45 PM PST by drypowder
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I’m sure Bloomy’s house is absolutely pristine. Otherwise he wouldn’t have time to look into another house.

The commie should mind his own business and clean his own house.


15 posted on 01/31/2011 6:08:26 PM PST by davetex (All my weapons got melted by a meteor!! No Sh*t)
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Who the heck does he think he is going to another state and sticking his nose in their business.

Like New York doesn’t have enough crime to keep his people busy?

The a-hole is looking to run for President, and this is his way of establishung himself. SOB.


16 posted on 01/31/2011 6:10:25 PM PST by Venturer
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Major redirection of blame going on here. Lil Fester didn’t buy his weapon at a gun show. He bought it at a sporting goods store and he had the proper credentials cause the dipstick Sheriff kept cuttin him loose.

Crossroads has it clearly posted as you enter their shows- “NO CAMERAS ALLOWED”.


17 posted on 01/31/2011 6:11:03 PM PST by Old Flat Toad (Pima County, home of the single vehicle accident with 40 victims.)
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Guns are one thing but what really has Bloomberg ticked is that Chefs in AZ have salt in their kitchens.
18 posted on 01/31/2011 6:13:32 PM PST by JPG (Work for conservative change like your country depended on it.)
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How exactly can hizzoner prove that the “buyers” made the comments about not being able to pass a background check he claims they made? We should take his word for this? Really? Why?


19 posted on 01/31/2011 6:15:43 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Obama. Chauncey Gardiner without the homburg.)
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It may be time for a RICO investigation.


20 posted on 01/31/2011 6:42:19 PM PST by allblues
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