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USDA deregulates GE alfalfa; opens door to new era of widespread genetic pollution of crops
NaturalNews.com ^ | January 28, 2011 | Mike Adams

Posted on 02/01/2011 7:11:47 PM PST by Razzz42

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To: org.whodat

>> “When that starts to happen you may have started breaking your food down to the DNA level and you have a problem” <<

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Your ignorance of cellular metabolism is breath taking.

When your food cannot be broken down to the DNA level is when you have a problem. The nucleotides are mainly what your cells want, along with some fats to construct the membrane.


61 posted on 02/01/2011 8:57:23 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: UnwashedPeasant
As a Libertarian, I believe people like you should be free to eat unnatural foods grown with chemicals, and people like me should be free not to

I agree with you completely.

I don't call what I eat unatural foods though, I always ask for the 'inorganic' foods.

62 posted on 02/01/2011 8:57:53 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: dfwgator
We are standing on the edge of a Garden of Eden

Only God can do that, when man tries to play God, it usually leads to disastrous results.

Absolutely correct.

63 posted on 02/01/2011 9:00:59 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: utherdoul

>> “I’ll take higher yields, lower prices, and enhanced food any day of the week.” <<

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You’re welcome to all you want.

And I’ll take real natural healthy food every day of the week.


64 posted on 02/01/2011 9:01:20 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: old curmudgeon

>> “I guess you missed the recent news that the guy who “proved” the dangers of vaccines for children has recently been exposed as a total fraud, replete with falsified studies, etc” <<

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That was the attempted propaganda, but it has been busted in a big way. It was total propagandistic hogwash from the start.


65 posted on 02/01/2011 9:03:27 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: Ramius

Visitors could pick a few articles on the FR website and find a few crackpots as well.
And you probably believe that leeches and bloodletting have no place in medicine....
Sometimes there are connections between things that we do not understand at the time. Curiosity is a virtue. I have never understood why anyone would want to stand in the way of any investigation that might provide answers.


66 posted on 02/01/2011 9:03:27 PM PST by dianed
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To: Balding_Eagle

You just don’t get it, do you!

High yields of poisonous crops are of no value to real people.

More unnatural protein is of no value, since it is not food.


67 posted on 02/01/2011 9:06:21 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: Ramius

We’ve been using a filter on you since the first day you showed up, propping up every insane venture that comes along.

Filter away!


68 posted on 02/01/2011 9:08:35 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: dianed

Well, OK. I’ll admit I have a bias. I won’t go to a doctor that has a bone through his nose, for example.


69 posted on 02/01/2011 9:09:23 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: editor-surveyor

“We”??? LOL... oh you are, huh? What insane ventures do I prop up? I’m dying to know...


70 posted on 02/01/2011 9:11:37 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius

>> “ I won’t go to a doctor that has a bone through his nose, for example”

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Bone or not, I won’t go to a doctor unless I need stitches.


71 posted on 02/01/2011 9:12:14 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: editor-surveyor

You are only two generations removed from a society in which for the working man a very igh perecntage of his wages went for food.

In fact, after food and lodging, there was very little money left.

A man and his mule could farm only about 30 acres. It took dawn to dark to farm and to cut the wood and tend the animals.

If we would return to that kind of farming, most of the country would starve.

As for the damage done to us by gene modified foods, millions if not billions of tons of food have been eaten. If the were as dangerous as the chicken littles contend, most of us would already be dead.

Instead, we are living longer (the major problem for social security liquidity other than politicians who steal) and we are healthier.

GM foods enable the farmer to farm thousands of acres of soybeans or corn by himself. Not the few acres our grandparents were restricted to.

We are lucky.

It is amazing to me how many people condemn the very things that enable them to have the time, the money and the facilities to complain about that which maintains them.

Plowing behind a mule and weeding with a hoe is not something you want to do for a living.


72 posted on 02/01/2011 9:12:29 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: editor-surveyor

What they’ve started to do fairly recently, is take a bacteria, and take the DNA out of it that causes the bacteria to be toxic to potato bugs. Maybe humans too? They take that DNA, and they splice it into the potato. The potato is then mostly potato, and part bacteria. And, the part of the bacteria in the potato is the poison part.

“Great potato huh? Maybe, can we put some poison in it? Keep the potato bugs from eating it? Why not?”

I don’t want potato bug poison, spliced in from a bacteria, in my potato.

Potatoes are really really cheap. I don’t see why there’s this big drive on to make the price of potatoes cheaper?


73 posted on 02/01/2011 9:12:59 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: Ramius

>> “What insane ventures do I prop up?” <<

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This thread would be an excellent place to start your search.


74 posted on 02/01/2011 9:13:47 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: old curmudgeon

You need to do your own homework. Andrew Wakefield has been hounded for years by the vaccine companies. See for yourself if you think this man is credible. Fast forward a bit to catch his interview here....

http://naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=B6AA38D44C89D9C75468F3F1115E8D87

You will find more info here.

http://www.wesupportandywakefield.com/

He was only hoping to help the families devastated by this disease but was not allowed to further investigate for real answers to all the questions surrounding this issue.

Make sure you read some of the affected family’s comments and then ask yourself why this should not warrant further studies.


75 posted on 02/01/2011 9:15:04 PM PST by dianed
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To: old curmudgeon

“A man and his mule could farm only about 30 acres. It took dawn to dark to farm and to cut the wood and tend the animals.

If we would return to that kind of farming, most of the country would starve.”

Right, but that just means use tractors, not screw around with the DNA of our food. It does not mean “add poison to food”.

Ban all GMO.


76 posted on 02/01/2011 9:16:28 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom

>> “I don’t want potato bug poison, spliced in from a bacteria, in my potato.” <<

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More importantly, I don’t want fake potato DNA mixing into mine.


77 posted on 02/01/2011 9:16:47 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: old curmudgeon

Oh jeez... there you go, making sense.

That’s not well received around these parts. :-)


78 posted on 02/01/2011 9:18:30 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: old curmudgeon

Mostly true, food production and the amount of a budget that goes to purchasing food has fallen since the 60’s.

I don’t have an issue with that per se, my issue is the sloppy practices and downright extortion (imo) that is being used to propagate GMO’s and GE’s and what have you.

If a farmer is willing to have lower yields due to have an organic crop that they believe they can make more money from selling, then Monsanto should not then impose their negligence upon that business.

As can be seen in this thread, some are willing to pay more for a non altered product, why should Monsanto be allowed to deny them what they wish to purchase?


79 posted on 02/01/2011 9:19:25 PM PST by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: editor-surveyor

Really?

http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/05/autism.vaccines/

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/13/opinion/13thu2.html?_r=1

Would you care to furnish us with the link that documents the fact that this information has been discredited?

Especially your comments on this:

But the investigation discovered that, while Wakefield held himself out to be a dispassionate scientist, two years before the Lancet paper was published - and before any of the 12 children were even referred to the hospital - he had been hired to attack MMR by a lawyer, Richard Barr: a jobbing solicitor in the small eastern English town of King’s Lynn, who hoped to raise a speculative class action lawsuit against drug companies which manufactured the shot.

From:

http://briandeer.com/mmr/lancet-summary.htm


80 posted on 02/01/2011 9:20:00 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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