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Will the ATF Gunwalker Scandal Take Down President Obama?
The Truth About Guns ^ | 2 February, 2011 | Brad Kozak

Posted on 02/03/2011 4:21:03 AM PST by marktwain

Wow. Its déjà vù all over again. The Gunwalker scandal – in which the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) stands accused of smuggling guns into Mexico, arming the drug runners that murdered Border Patrol Agent Terry – is one of those seemingly innocent little land mines that blows up big. Contemplating the chain of command that must have authorized this profoundly illegal program, considering the administration’s response to the growing scandal, the hairs on the back of my neck stand at attention, and I’m taken back to the decade we called the 70s. Let’s take a closer look at this latter day potentially presidential scandal…

The ATF has long been an “also-ran” federal agency. As RF has pointed out on many occasions, their work overlaps that of the FBI, DEA, DHS, U.S. Customs and Border Protection, state and local police and others. Since the ATF’s elevation to federal agency status (July 1, 1972), the ATF has been struggling to justify their existence.

When Mexican President Felipe Calderon took America to task [falsely] for arming the Mexican drug cartels, it was Christmas at the ATF. Finally, they had a reason to live. They secured a “mandate” (read: a fully-funded $160m budget) from the Obama administration to curb the so-called “Iron River” of guns flowing from the U.S. into Mexico. It was the first expansion of the ATF in decades.

Here’s the crux of the problem and the setup for the coverup: there IS no river of guns flowing into Mexico. While a few hundred firearms might cross America’s southern border on a annual basis, the Iron River is but a trickle. Not surprisingly, given the lack of a problem to solve and at least five federal agencies attempting to solve it, the ATF managed to apprehend only a few small time gun smugglers. And…that was it.

In November, The Inspector General issued a report condemning the ATF’s Project Gunrunner program in no uncertain terms. Specifically, the IG excoriated the ATF for bureaucratic inefficiency and failing to nab the gun-smuggling “kingpins.” Well duh. There ARE no kingpins.

The pressure for results increased dramatically. Like a gunfighter under pressure, the ATF turned to its core competency: entrapment. As TTAG has reported numerous times, the ATF has a long and ignoble history of using “sting” operations to catch illegal firearms purchasers. There were a few not-so-notable gun running busts, including an Arizona plumber.

As part of this Project Gunrunner effort, the ATF “allowed” straw purchases headed for Mexico to go through. This information first broke cover when a Houston gun dealer told the world that the ATF had green-lighted illegal rifle sales to [alleged] Mexican gun runners. In and of itself, the practice was both ineffective and reprehensible. If it could be proved that the ATF had actually put the buyers up for the deal, well, nothing. Again, quasi-legal ATF “stings” are background noise.

Only these authorized straw man purchases didn’t really work. Not on the scale that the IG and the ATF’s collective ego demanded. It’s a lot harder to sneak IN to Mexico than it is OUT of Mexico. (A one-way, revolving door. How nice.) And so the main accusation: ATF agents escorted said straw purchasers – and their “assault rifles” – across the Rio Grande and into Mexico.

When Agent Terry was killed by drug smugglers, the net was immediately abuzz with the possibility that he was shot with one of the weapons “eased” into Mexico by the ATF. At first, the notion seemed incredible. But it was soon clear that the feds went into full disaster containment mode over Agent Terry’s murder, giving credence to the rumors.

The intrepid Janet Napolitano, head honcho of Homeland Security and former Arizona Governor, raced to the scene of the crime. Since then it’s been radio silence. The FBI has refused to provide the names of the men arrested for Terry’s murder. They also put a lid on any and all other investigative findings. The Agency “declined” to honor a Freedom of Information Act request to provide information on the weapons found at the crime scene.

Meanwhile, the ATF has already decided on its defense, as illustrated by a story at usatoday.com

Bill Newell, ATF special agent in charge for Arizona, said the five separate cases, all part of Project Gunrunner, demonstrate the corruptive reach of Mexican cartels using straw buyers to acquire guns in Arizona for illegal shipment south.

Asked whether agents purposely allowed firearms to enter Mexico as part of an investigation, Newell answered, “Hell, no.” But, he said, suspects under surveillance sometimes elude agents, which could result in guns winding up in Mexico.

So it was an “accident.” Unless the ATF agents did, in fact, walk the guns into Mexico. In that case, there will be hell to pay.

Let’s pause for a moment and consider the implications. The ATF allowed perhaps even transported weapons into Mexico. Two of those weapons may have been used to murder a federal officer. If true, the head of the ATF knows this. The head of the FBI knows this. The head of the Department of Homeland Security knows this. Did anyone bother to tell the President of the United States? One can only assume so.

So what did President Obama know about Project Gunrunner’s criminal conspiracy to murder and when did he know it?

Enter Sen. Charles Grassley, who, By God, is Going To Get To The Bottom Of This. He’s written a letter to acting ATF head Kenneth Melson. Melson is stonewalling. Meanwhile, Grassley says the ATF has read the riot act to the ATF whistleblower who provided evidence of the connection between Project Gunrunner and Agent Terry’s murder.

The administration hasn’t come clean, and shows no inclination to do so. Their instinct is to circle the wagons, damn the torpedoes and stonewall, stonewall, stonewall. But all that stonewalling leads to wretched excesses, where one question ducked leads to a misinterpretation, never corrected, which festers and boils, until you have a real, honest-to God cover-up on your hands.

I don’t want to come across as a nattering nabob of negativism. I’m deeply skeptical of the idea that the President of the United States knew that the ATF was smuggling guns into Mexico – at least until this scandal broke. I think this was a bottom-up job. Clumsy? Yep. Criminal? Definitely. But Obama’s fault (other than failing to keep a watchful eye on the ATF)? Nope. However…

The cover-up is a genuine concern that could well be laid at the feet of the president. Ask yourself a couple of questions…Why did a cabinet-level chieftain fly down to personally oversee the…the…what, exactly? Investigation? Stonewalling? Cover-up? I dunno.

And nobody else outside of the Administration knows either. If the instructions came from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue (and that’s a big IF, at this point), then Houston, we have a problem. If the White House ordered Napolitano to put a lid on this thing, that constitutes obstruction of justice. And that’s a big-time crime.

Now you’d think they’d know better. Something like this happens the first thing Obama should do is go on national TV and say something like “We don’t know what happened – yet. But we will. I am dispatching a team to the scene to get the facts. We will report on our findings every step along the way. And just like we had embedded reporters on the front lines of the war, we will embed reporters here, to make certain that there is no coverup.”

Case closed. Problem solved. The MSM gets their red meat. The damage is controlled, and limited to a black eye or a fat lip. Not a fatal wound. The way they’ve played it, we’ll have to wait and see who gets thrown under the campaign bus to prevent Obama from taking a Humpty-Dumpty-like fall from grace.

This is a really bad time for the Obama administration to have its focus diverted to matters of self-preservation. Egypt’s going up in flames. Obamacare’s been shot down in flames. The President is already facing an uphill climb for a second term. Is Obama fiddling while his administration burns?We shall see.

But as we watch the Gunwalker-gate events unfold in the Senate and on TV, remember that the Watergate scandal that destroyed a presidency started with a piece of duct tape on a door. And never forget that a brave border agent, a former Marine, may have died for the ATF’s sins.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; gunwalker; mexico
This is one of the best summations of the Gunwalker scandal that I have read.
1 posted on 02/03/2011 4:21:05 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

bookmark


2 posted on 02/03/2011 4:28:36 AM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: marktwain

zer0 has so much covered up already I can’t see one more item hurting Him.

I would love to be wrong on that


3 posted on 02/03/2011 4:29:05 AM PST by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: marktwain

Take down The Won?

Wishful thinking.


4 posted on 02/03/2011 4:30:15 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: marktwain

> Will the ATF Gunwalker Scandal Take Down President Obama?
Did the Monica Lewinski cigar incident take down Bill Clinton?
(This sounds like a Geico commercial, doesn’t it?)


5 posted on 02/03/2011 4:31:12 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Re-Elect President Sarah Palin 2016)
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To: marktwain

No, Obama and the gunwalker actions are part of the globalists’ plans. It would take an informed citizenry for this to matter.


6 posted on 02/03/2011 4:36:29 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: marktwain

Grassley sent a letter. OK, great.

But when is the HOUSE going to investigate? When is the HOUSE going to hold PUBLIC HEARINGS?

Anything less than that is a monumental waste of time.

Well, I guess they call put Bloomberg on the case. You know, the National Expert on Guns and the Border.


7 posted on 02/03/2011 4:48:26 AM PST by samtheman
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To: marktwain

Bump


8 posted on 02/03/2011 4:50:17 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: marktwain

Perhaps this corrupt agency will finally be eliminated.


9 posted on 02/03/2011 4:51:50 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: marktwain

re: Will the ATF Gunwalker Scandal Take Down President Obama?

In a word, NO.


10 posted on 02/03/2011 4:53:29 AM PST by jwparkerjr (I would rather lose with Sarah than win with a RINO!)
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To: marktwain
Doubt this will hurt the obamanation as he mocks judges all the time and all who resist him are slandered by the left wing junkie media liars, professional slanderers.
11 posted on 02/03/2011 4:54:21 AM PST by kindred (Come Lord Jesus, rule and reign over all thine enemies.)
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To: kindred

I agree with your assessment.


12 posted on 02/03/2011 4:57:29 AM PST by sport
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To: marktwain
Will the ATF Gunwalker Scandal Take Down President Obama?

No, because most people just don't care about the right to keep and bear arms. In fact a significant fraction of the population (especially in NY, MA, MD and NJ) loses bladder control at the sight of a gun.

13 posted on 02/03/2011 5:01:50 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: marktwain

/mark


14 posted on 02/03/2011 5:15:53 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: marktwain

Here is what will happen:

ATF will admit it tried to follow gun-smugglers, but they evaded them.

Melson will be asked to resign and Obama will ask Taver to take over as acting director for the rest of his first term.


15 posted on 02/03/2011 5:15:59 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: marktwain
I agree; it is an excellent summation of Project Gunwalker.

If Obama and Big Sis are part of the cover-up, they should hang, along with those in ATF who aided and abetted the murder of a federal officer.

16 posted on 02/03/2011 5:20:03 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: marktwain

This is the first time I have heard of this....very interesting to say the least....this may be the atf’s final swan song....the question is, how high does this go????inquiring minds want to know


17 posted on 02/03/2011 5:24:51 AM PST by joe fonebone (The House has oversight of the Judiciary...why are the rogue judges not being impeached?)
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To: marktwain

Does the mayor of NYC know about this? /S


18 posted on 02/03/2011 5:25:51 AM PST by CPOSharky (Posted with 100% recycled electrons.)
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To: marktwain
Will this take down Obama?

No, because the communist press will hide this story and all of the idiot who voted for Obama don't care because they all have their hands out waiting for their free stuff.

19 posted on 02/03/2011 5:26:05 AM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: marktwain
The intrepid Janet Napolitano, head honcho of Homeland Security and former Arizona Governor, raced to the scene of the crime. Since then it’s been radio silence. The FBI has refused to provide the names of the men arrested for Terry’s murder. They also put a lid on any and all other investigative findings. The Agency “declined” to honor a Freedom of Information Act request to provide information on the weapons found at the crime scene.

The FBI has a long history of telling lies: JFK assassination, OKC bombing,TWA 800, 9/11 etc. J Edgar Hoover ran a corrupt mess but now the Presidents realize how valuable a group like this is.

20 posted on 02/03/2011 5:28:13 AM PST by politicianslie (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders)
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To: marktwain
Shirley, Brad, you jest?

Our Community Agitator in Least, aka, Dear Leader, could be caught on camera, at high noon, in front of the Capital, holding a 12 year old at gunpoint and having his way with her/him and the outcome would be?

A big yawn by the State-Run Media (who would "spike" it) and his sycophant base of Far Left Fellow-Traveling, useful idiots.

As we have seen, he continues to ignore the Constitution and has appointed similar-thinking Czars and Cabinet members who's primary objective is to DESTROY our Republic, no matter what!

The only way to get rid of the Messiah is vote him out and put me down on the Doubting Thomas side when it comes to that, thanks to "our" side (the RINO wusses in Congress) laying down with the "dogs" (Demo-Rats) and rolling over for Obozzo, rather than taking the fight to both.

21 posted on 02/03/2011 5:31:10 AM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: from occupied ga

Boy they will have some serious issues with living before long then huh.

Rowdy


22 posted on 02/03/2011 5:33:27 AM PST by 1Rowdy1 (Keep You're Powder Dry and You're Head LOW, be very veeryy small. ( . )( .)
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To: marktwain

“Will the ATF Gunwalker Scandal Take Down President Obama?”

Bet it can. Cover-up the American people understand. Nixon/cover-up has been drummed into their heads by the MSM for 35 years.


23 posted on 02/03/2011 5:33:59 AM PST by sergeantdave (The democrat party is a seditious organization and must be outlawed)
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To: sergeantdave
No government agency is more hated than the BATF and E. Especially among gun owners. Please take a minute and look at this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2623044/posts

24 posted on 02/03/2011 5:36:22 AM PST by Jerrybob
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To: Jerrybob
DE-FUND!!!
25 posted on 02/03/2011 5:36:59 AM PST by Jerrybob
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26 posted on 02/03/2011 5:39:48 AM PST by bcsco
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To: marktwain

mark


27 posted on 02/03/2011 6:08:16 AM PST by bitt ( ..Congress - either investigate Obama ...or yourselves, for complicity)
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To: marktwain

Remember the comedian who thought “ATF” was a convenience store chain?


28 posted on 02/03/2011 6:11:51 AM PST by texson66 (Congress does not draw to its halls those who love liberty. It draws those who love power .)
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To: reefdiver

It won’t hurt obama, the main stream media won’t report it. Bush it would have. The main stream media will cover for obama.


29 posted on 02/03/2011 7:49:29 AM PST by sport
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To: sergeantdave

[Nixon/cover-up has been drummed into their heads by the MSM for 35 years.]

That same MSM will not beat the drum against the left. Ever.


30 posted on 02/03/2011 7:50:21 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian
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To: Blue Collar Christian

“That same MSM will not beat the drum against the left. Ever.”

Doesn’t matter. The bell has been rung. Cover-up = crime, in the minds of Americans.


31 posted on 02/03/2011 8:13:58 AM PST by sergeantdave (The democrat party is a seditious organization and must be outlawed)
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To: marktwain
Will the ATF Gunwalker Scandal Take Down President Obama?

No. You would need for him to pull out a full-auto weapon and spray the chambers during a joint session of congresscritters for the left to start thinking he might not be up to the job. Even then, they'd probably excuse him and blame the weapon.

32 posted on 02/03/2011 9:29:37 AM PST by zeugma (Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam)
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To: marktwain

For later.


33 posted on 02/03/2011 11:55:11 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: marktwain

“Will the ATF Gunwalker Scandal Take Down President Obama?”

Is “ATF Gunwalker Scandal” a synonym for “silver bullet”?

Sorry, but most Americans won’t give a rat’s rear about it. If using taxpayer money to buy car companies and give them to political cronies for free doesn’t phase America, the ATF Gunwalker Scandal won’t...


34 posted on 02/03/2011 12:06:12 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: marktwain

Faze, not phase. Sorry, I’m on meds right now. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.


35 posted on 02/03/2011 12:07:27 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: marktwain
This is one of the best summations of the Gunwalker scandal that I have read.

For all the words it contains, this is an article that contains no readily discernable facts. Some tantalizing rumors, yes; and the actions of Mr. Grassley are indeed interesting.

But the article nevertheless contains almost no real information.

And this is one of the "best" summations you have read?

36 posted on 02/03/2011 12:14:39 PM PST by r9etb
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To: texson66

ping to 28


37 posted on 02/03/2011 12:20:54 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

ping to 28


38 posted on 02/03/2011 12:21:08 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: marktwain
This sounds a lot like Reagan's Iran-Contra scandal. While Iran-Contra did not bring down Reagan's presidency, it did result in the resignation of the National Security Advisor (Adm. Poindexter), and the firing of Col. Oliver North.

Will there be any lower-level resignations/firings over this?

-PJ

39 posted on 02/03/2011 12:22:32 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: marktwain
LA Times just confirmed that two ATF supplied weapons were found at the murder scene of the Border Patrol Agent

Guns tracked by firearms bureau found at firefight scene

40 posted on 02/03/2011 12:51:25 PM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: from occupied ga

Ah, but this *ISN’T* about the right to keep and bear arms; it’s about a scheme that might be entrapment leaking guns to Mexican Drug Cartels who then used those guns to kill a Border Patrol agent... AND THEN engaged in what must be a multi-agency cover-up {ATF & FBI, at least... possibly even BP}.


41 posted on 02/03/2011 3:06:00 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: r9etb

Yes.


42 posted on 02/03/2011 4:30:27 PM PST by marktwain
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To: sergeantdave

I wish you were right. I don’t even see the topic being heavily pursued here on FR. No new threads since this one.


43 posted on 02/04/2011 7:48:01 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian
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To: Blue Collar Christian

“I wish you were right. I don’t even see the topic being heavily pursued here on FR. No new threads since this one.”

Hey, look at the overall landscape. In the last election patriots took back 26 states by electing more than 700 patriots. We’re doing good.

Your issue on gun rights will get more attention as we move on. Alert your friends and stand tall. I have huge faith in Americans. Yeh, sometimes we stumble and do something stoopid. So what.

We’re heading in the right direction. We will kill the commie plans to take over our country. Besides, it’s not “their” country and we’ll make sure to teach them.

Best wishes to you and yours.


44 posted on 02/04/2011 5:11:53 PM PST by sergeantdave (The democrat party is a seditious organization and must be outlawed)
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To: marktwain

What’s another scandal when the MSM has your back.


45 posted on 02/04/2011 5:13:09 PM PST by jersey117
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To: jersey117

“..MSM has his back...”

Totally true.

The clown has nothing but wreckage to show for the past two years.

If the media turned on him, which they simply will never do, or even focused on him honestly, he would be knowingly serving out his lame duck term right now.


46 posted on 02/04/2011 5:17:33 PM PST by dblup
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To: sergeantdave

Appreciate your faith. God bless you Sarge.


47 posted on 02/04/2011 10:41:24 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian
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