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"Painful Conclusion": Senators Say FBI & DOD Could Have Prevented Ft. Hood Shooting
ABC News ^ | February 03, 2011 | Matthew Jaffe

Posted on 02/05/2011 2:26:29 PM PST by stevie_d_64

A new Senate report on the 2009 Fort Hood shooting blames the FBI and Department of Defense for failing to recognize or act on alleged shooter Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan’s extremist views.

The report, released today by Senate Homeland Security Committee chairman Joe Lieberman and ranking Republican Susan Collins, says the FBI and DOD could have prevented the shooting if they had identified Hasan’s radical Islamist views and disciplined or discharged him before the attack occurred.

“Our report’s painful conclusion is that the Fort Hood massacre could have and should have been prevented,” Lieberman said at a press conference today.

“The fact is that both the FBI and the Army were aware of Major Hasan,” Collins said. “This is not a case where a lone wolf was unknown to the FBI, unknown to the military officials, until he struck – and that is the tragedy of this case.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: allahuakbar; army; fort; forthood; forthoodmassacre; hassan; hood; jihadinamerica; jihadist; murdered14; nidalhasan; noaccountability; shooting
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To: stevie_d_64

They weren’t allowed to do anything to a member of the protected diversity group. Ask CAIR. You can only go after old Christian white men anymore. Everybody else is off limits.


41 posted on 02/06/2011 12:34:28 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (We be Fooked.)
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To: Electric Graffiti

Lakin’s predicament raised some interesting questions; I laid out some here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-vetscor/2638933/posts


42 posted on 02/06/2011 12:50:19 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: stevie_d_64
So they concede the root cause of the attack?
43 posted on 02/06/2011 1:24:15 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: smokingfrog

Strange how they kept promoting him...Thinking that might soften his radical muslim views...

And for this to be a guy that analyses others problems and gives them solutions or goals to over come those probems...

He didn’t practice what he preached...

Thats why I believe Marine Corp Drill Instructors would make better Psycologists...

Tissue??? ;-)


44 posted on 02/07/2011 8:33:42 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: basil
"My only comment is that at the very least, the Military Police on any US Base should be armed—again"

Just to set the record straight, MPs are always armed on every installation - foreign & abroad (while on duty).

The problem is that the number of MPs deployed on US soil (and to a slightly lessor degree off US soil) has been steadily (and greatly) reduced since the early '90 draw-down. The have, in large part, been transitioned to either private security contractors, or deputized DoD police officers (as was the case at Ft. Hood).

45 posted on 02/07/2011 3:33:53 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

Well—do you think they learned anything from the FT Hood massacre? See my tagline................


46 posted on 02/07/2011 4:12:31 PM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: stevie_d_64

The officers that are supposedly being disciplined, are not necessarily being charged with crime, just failing to do their duty to report the SoB. Course if they had, then they’d likely have been charged with hate crimes.


47 posted on 03/10/2011 10:23:26 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: basil
My only comment is that at the very least, the Military Police on any US Base should be armed—again, one armed person could have taken this guy out before he did as much damage as he did.

The military police at Ft. Hood are routinely armed, 9mm M9 pistols. The civilian post police are also armed. The contract gate guards are armed too. But there were none of them at the point of need. There were only ordinary soldiers, medical personnel (military and civilian) who would be punished, before or after the shootings, if they so much as had a weapon in their vehicles, let alone on or about their persons.

Just goes to show, Jihadies, like ordinary criminals, prefer unarmed victims.

In the end it was one of those civilian DoD policemen who dropped Hassan, who remains paralyzed as a result. However another cop, a marksmanship instructor, missed and was herself shot. She ended up in the same hospital I was in last summer for my two knee replacement surgeries. Had at least one of the same physical therapists there too.

She was thought not to be too badly injured, but she almost bled out on the way there. But it's not much farther from the scene than the military hospital would have been, especially time wise. She has permanent injuries that will prevent her from resuming her duties. She was moving to another post anyway to join her soldier husband. (She was a former soldier IIRC)

Only armed non police would have helped that day. Armed doctors, nurses, techs and clerks. (or contractor engineers :)) Along with some of the soldiers being processed through the facility. No different than the civilian world, there is rarely a cop at hand when the stuff hits the fan.

48 posted on 03/10/2011 10:49:00 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: OldDeckHand
The have, in large part, been transitioned to either private security contractors, or deputized DoD police officers (as was the case at Ft. Hood).

Both actually. But they, DoD police and private security gate guards are armed and were on 2009 Nov 5. I was there, I went through one of the gates while the thing was still somewhat going on. Then I got locked in until around 8 PM.

The problem is, no one other than the police/guards WHO WERE NOT ON THE SITE of the shooting, and the bad guy, was armed. It was and is prohibited. Never mind that many have Texas CHL licenses. Never mind that they are all trained with our tax dollars to handle weapons. Never mind that they do so routinely when deployed. Somehow, they can't be trusted to be armed at home station, unless out on the range.

49 posted on 03/10/2011 10:57:27 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: OldDeckHand
The have, in large part, been transitioned to either private security contractors, or deputized DoD police officers (as was the case at Ft. Hood).

Both actually. But they, DoD police and private security gate guards are armed and were on 2009 Nov 5. I was there, I went through one of the gates while the thing was still somewhat going on. Then I got locked in until around 8 PM.

The problem is, no one other than the police/guards WHO WERE NOT ON THE SITE of the shooting, and the bad guy, was armed. It was and is prohibited. Never mind that many have Texas CHL licenses. Never mind that they are all trained with our tax dollars to handle weapons. Never mind that they do so routinely when deployed. Somehow, they can't be trusted to be armed at home station, unless out on the range.

50 posted on 03/10/2011 10:57:35 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
"No different than the civilian world, there is rarely a cop at hand when the stuff hits the fan."

Of course there's rarely a cop at hand when an emergency rises--that's why I carry a gun--and have guns in my home. FGS, one would think that on an army base, at least the military police would be armed (where have you heard that before?LOL!) That damned Jihadi knew that everyone on that base was his sitting duck, and he picked off way too many before he was finally stopped.

IMHO, that's outrageous! See my tagline.

51 posted on 03/11/2011 4:40:35 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: stevie_d_64

Talk about stating the obvious.


52 posted on 03/11/2011 4:44:48 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: WashingtonSource

That’s Captain Obvious to you! ;-)


53 posted on 03/11/2011 5:14:56 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: basil
FGS, one would think that on an army base, at least the military police would be armed

I repeat, the MPs were and are armed. As are the civilian DoD police and the contract gate guards.

IIRC all have various 9mm handguns. Don't know what the cops, both MPs and civilian, have in the trunks of the police cars.

54 posted on 03/11/2011 11:15:12 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: basil
FGS, one would think that on an army base, at least the military police would be armed

I repeat, the MPs were and are armed. As are the civilian DoD police and the contract gate guards.

IIRC all have various 9mm handguns. Don't know what the cops, both MPs and civilian, have in the trunks of the police cars.

55 posted on 03/11/2011 11:15:21 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

Then why in the heck didn’t they take the bastid out!

I have talked to several guys stationed there, and they have all told me that no one is armed on base except at certain times—and the MPs at the gates clearing traffic to enter.........

Ft Hood is just down the road from where I live, and I have been on the base many times


56 posted on 03/12/2011 5:09:33 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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