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NC Bill Would Ban Cell Phones While Driving, Even Hands Free
WNCN ^ | 2/7/11 | Jackie Faye

Posted on 02/07/2011 8:10:43 AM PST by AT7Saluki

On Monday, a bill banning talking on the phone while driving will be introduced in the North Carolina Senate. The bill would ban using hands free devices while driving as well.

Highway Patrol Trooper Beckley Vaughn said it boils down to being distracted while driving. Vaughn said at only 55 mph, a driver goes about 88 feet per second. He said the average reaction time is only .75 of a second.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: bill; carolina; cell; donutwatch; lowiq; mathskills; nannystate; phone
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To: Klemper

How about using funds from the Stimulus package to pay for signs that say “No Talking!”? Police can use Big Ear Listening Devices to make sure our lips are sealed.


21 posted on 02/07/2011 8:36:51 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: AT7Saluki
They can already fine you for not wearing a seat belt and the danger in not wearing one is to yourself. Seats and belts for children is one thing but I don't see the difference between a fine for an adult not wearing a belt and a fine for an adult using the phone. If they can say you risking your own butt is a hazard they say you on a cellphone is a hazard as well. I've always worn my seat belt but I hate ending up in a line waiting for half an hour while they're passing out tickets for no belt especially when almost every car has only the driver in it.

Just sayin’, you give them an inch don't bitch when they think they're ruler.

22 posted on 02/07/2011 8:40:43 AM PST by Rashputin (Barry is totally insane and being kept medicated and on golf courses to hide the fact)
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To: BigBobber
“Having to stop every time one needs to make or take a call is a productivity killer”

Yep, but worse, how many people will get killed sitting on the side of the interstate on the phone?

23 posted on 02/07/2011 8:58:41 AM PST by ryan71 (Dear spell check - No, I will not capitalize the "m" in moslem!)
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To: JaneNC

hows about closing the gap on illegals voting without picture ids....or getting state aid, food stamps and free health care without documentation...and on and on FIRST!


24 posted on 02/07/2011 9:04:17 AM PST by ldish (Looking forward to Independence Day)
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To: circlecity

I think it’s more sinister than that. How can a cop know whether you are talking on a cell phone hands free? In other words, what constitutes probable cause? Your lips are moving? You’re gesturing? You”look” like you’re deep in conversation?

If this passes, you can be stopped for anything. It’s one of those “dragnet” laws designed to put all citizens under the cops’ watchful eye.


25 posted on 02/07/2011 9:14:05 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: AT7Saluki
I have wondered how many of the 'holier-than-thou, my-poop-don't-stink, no talking on cell phone do-gooders' have GPS systems in their cars.
26 posted on 02/07/2011 9:22:21 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: AT7Saluki
Gee, guess there are a lot of activities which NC will need to address.

Distracted drivers pose safety hazard, according to new UNC study

The study found that drivers were most often distracted by something outside their vehicle (29.4 percent) followed by adjusting a radio or CD player (11.4 percent). Other specific distractions included talking with other occupants (10.9 percent), adjusting vehicle or climate controls (2.8 percent), eating or drinking (1.7 percent), cell-phone use (1.5 percent) and smoking (0.9 percent).

http://www.aaafoundation.org/multimedia/index.cfm?button=disdrv

27 posted on 02/07/2011 9:30:19 AM PST by Lockbox (`)
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To: AT7Saluki
By far, the greatest driver-distraction is the radio. The same logic applied to hands-free cellphone use would put an end to drive-through fast food and inevitably lead to someone getting a ticket for talking on a cell-phone when they were actually praying, or singing.

Will this same law apply to law enforcement? Would it ban the use of two-way radios, as well?

No. Unless the legislature is willing to try banning these other distractions first this one needs a lot more explanation.

Instead of the nanny "because we said so" argument they will need to cite the studies showing a very real hypnotic state appears to exist among drivers when talking on a cellphone while driving.

The legislature will need to explore less baby & bathwater measures, such as limiting hands-free calls while driving to thirty seconds, or something similar.

This bill, as it stands, amounts to a ban on cellphones in general, or a ban on their use, and smacks of creating probable cause for officer intervention where no other exists.

28 posted on 02/07/2011 9:33:03 AM PST by Prospero (non est ad astra mollis e terris via)
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To: AT7Saluki

The Mythbusters did some experiments with this and found that carrying on a phone conversation caused as much driver impairment as driving drunk. Of course there is a difference in real life so that a person carrying on a conversation while driving would most likely stop talking and paying attention to the phone if conditions required rapt attention to driving. But it did show that being distracted by a conversation causes unsafe drivers.


29 posted on 02/07/2011 9:48:37 AM PST by OK
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To: AT7Saluki
Driver: "It's one of those cheap hearing aids, officer."

Cop: "OK, sir. Have a nice day. Sorry to inconvenience you."

30 posted on 02/07/2011 9:53:44 AM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: SamAdams76
...they might as well ban speaking to passengers and listening to radios as well!

I think they should every time I get behind someone engaged in conversation with their passenger while looking at them, gesticulating, and ignoring the traffic.

31 posted on 02/07/2011 9:55:05 AM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: gunsequalfreedom
I am able to talk on the phone and drive at the same time and it is far less of a distraction to have the phone to my ear than fumbling for hands free buttons.

Hands' free is much less distracting for me. It leaves me with both hands on the wheel and you are not distracted with 'talking into the phone' which tends to isolate you from external events.

32 posted on 02/07/2011 10:02:10 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: IronJack
I think it’s more sinister than that. How can a cop know whether you are talking on a cell phone hands free? In other words, what constitutes probable cause? Your lips are moving? You’re gesturing? You”look” like you’re deep in conversation?

If you are in an accident and are sued, they can get your cell-phone records to see if you were talking at the time of the accident.

33 posted on 02/07/2011 10:07:55 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: Prospero
The legislature will need to explore less baby & bathwater measures, such as limiting hands-free calls while driving to thirty seconds, or something similar.

I can see where that would become license for the state to monitor everyone's cell phone usage and fine everyone for 31 second calls which pass from one tower to another.

There are laws against distracted driving already. Most of them include harsh penalties for causing an accident, plus penalties for infractions caused by distraction. Enforce the existing laws, says I.

34 posted on 02/07/2011 10:12:43 AM PST by MortMan (What disease did cured ham used to have?)
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To: AT7Saluki

give how smartphones now require letter entry to call a specific name, technology has already outpaced the law.

This sounds like a nanny state politician who was pissed off at someone. I bet there is an exclusion for these “special” people.


35 posted on 02/07/2011 10:19:20 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: AT7Saluki

As a motorcycle rider who has had near death expierences from idiots talking on their phones I say ban the damn things while driving.

I also agree to ban eating, makup, shaving, reading, watching tv, etc while driving. When you are driving you should be just driving not a bunch of other stuff.

I don’t want to die because you feel it is time to say hello to grandma.


36 posted on 02/07/2011 10:19:53 AM PST by RickB444 (Beat your sword into plowshares, but wind up plowing the fields of someone who kept their sword.)
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To: BigBobber

...or the goal is to keep pushing the cattle car white elephant train systems.

Remember, the government wants us to use tains along government sanctioned courses.


37 posted on 02/07/2011 10:40:51 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: JaneNC

But, but, Gov workers will be exempt. And maybe a couple union vehicles.


38 posted on 02/07/2011 10:42:44 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: RickB444

Yay, more Government control because we cannot take care of ourselves.


39 posted on 02/07/2011 10:47:10 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: AT7Saluki
Vaughn said at only 55 mph, a driver goes about 88 feet per second.

Cop math fail. 55 mph = 80.67 ft/sec

40 posted on 02/07/2011 10:56:15 AM PST by TankerKC (Confucius say, he who rushes to vote on bill before reading, might forget severability clause.)
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