Posted on 02/08/2011 11:10:17 AM PST by OldDeckHand
WASHINGTON -- A government investigation into Toyota safety problems has found no electronic flaws to account for reports of sudden, unintentional acceleration.
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So could it be that the problem was due to DRIVER ERROR????
It's the same flaw that has existed in almost all cars. When the idiot behind the wheel means to step on the brake, but mashes the accelerator instead, there is "unintentional" acceleration.
No, it’s the driver.
Man she was funny wasn’t she ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7gLJr03vNQ
“The other thing that went unreported is that in pretty much any car, even with the accelerator pedal floored, the brakes are able to overcome the torque of the engine and stop the car.”
Also most cars equipped with throttle-by-wire will automatically close the throttle when the brakes are applied.
Well then...really Never Mind.
Oh Darn......Eminem and Chrysler were counting on the ongoing RICO conspiracy against non union auto makers, authored by the Obamma administration’s planning with said unions.
And hungry lawyers.
“Then it’s software?”
There was one case near San Diego that was caused by the floor mat. The rest of the cases were old geezers who don’t know the accelerator from the brake. Screw the trial lawyers.
I have always thought the problem was that you press a button to put the car in park. Some people forget to do it and the car rolls.
I agree, PGR88!
And I also agree with Michael Barnes' post #5: This whole thing was nothing but a government hit piece.
““The other thing that went unreported is that in pretty much any car, even with the accelerator pedal floored, the brakes are able to overcome the torque of the engine and stop the car.”
Also most cars equipped with throttle-by-wire will automatically close the throttle when the brakes are applied.
The first is not true unless it is done instantly with no delay. And not true at all if you are going down hill. Car brakes are under-designed these days. They are not forgiving to brake fade at all.
The 2nd point you make was not true for Toyota. They did not have that feature until now.
Yep, and there are other ways to stop a car, too. I had an accelerator jam once. It was 3rd gear, a freeway entrance, and a high powered car. I put it in neutral, hit the brake, and turned off the ignition, in less than a second. After coasting to the side of the road, I found that the car wash had put the driver's side mat in backwards, after cleaning it.
Yep. And if you put the car in Neutral its a piece of cake to bring it to a halt. At worst the engine will blow up.
Exactly... this must have *wrongfully* cost Toyota MILLIONS in fines and lost sales.
which one was the one with the State Trooper?
I’d like to see the facts on that one...hard to believe a guy who drives for a living could make that dumb a mistake
and keep doing so for miles.
“The 2nd point you make was not true for Toyota. They did not have that feature until now.”
I did say “most”. :) Also I was aware that this was not true of Toyotas until after the recall.
Given the huge disc brakes I see on most newer cars these days, I find it hard to believe that they are inadequate unless manufacturers are REALLY cheaping out on pads. On my own car I noticed a considerable improvement in fade resistance by changing to a harder pad (though this did hurt braking performance a bit when the brakes were cold).
Ray LaHood said “it’s mechanical, not electrical”
and as we know, Ray hates cars.
The flaw, dear reader, has always been located at the driver’s foot.
No Toyota EVAH has the power to do what those drivers claimed, and Toyota’s quality at its worst is still two or three quantum levels above GM’s fondest dreams.
And we can always pause to laugh at that limp-***** driver of that supposedly runaway Prius.
Heh!!
Psychiatrists have a word or phrase for that phenomena (beyond just "mass hysteria"). I wish I could remember it. It definitely seems to apply here.
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