Posted on 02/11/2011 2:05:43 AM PST by Scanian
There's been a whole lot of talking going on regarding GOProud's participation and sponsorship of this year's CPAC convention. There've been numerous pundits spouting off about it. There've been interviews galore on the subject. There've been memos. There've been boycotts. There's been a lot of liberal drooling over the prospect of a conservative split of gigantic proportion.
Yet, there is something fundamental missing in this big, fat heap of internecine squabbling.
What will GOProud bring to the conservative table?
So far, fiscal conservatives of the libertarian bent have sought to shame social conservatives into silence and forced acceptance of GOProud. Now, I'm as socially conservative as they come and a Catholic to boot. On the other hand, I believe strongly in political pragmatism, as long as politically pragmatic policies are held to high standards of accountability. If one can demonstrate that his proposal will definitely work to the betterment of society, especially for the protection of future citizens (the children), then I say, great.
As I'm watching this whole conservative kerfuffle, I'm keeping my own faith and values intact, while at the same time, thinking there is room for compromise in the public square.
But compromise involves both parties coming to the bargaining table with a willingness to not only take, but also to give.
GOProud, it ought to be noted, by numbers, represents a tiny sliver of the conservative base. Social conservatives -- especially Christians and religiously conservative Jews -- account for a large majority of the conservative base. So, attempting to shame the majority of the base is probably not a pragmatic approach to the problem.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Tell me that isn’t FILTHY, SICK and DISTURBED.
My high school biology teacher explained it all in the first two minutes of the first class: “The purpose of any organism is to reproduce itself.”
THE TRUTH... IN 100% CRYSTAL CLARITY!
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Only trouble.
As a group ProudGOP they are pushing the gay lifestyle. I’ll will never support that.
That was some slick packaging there. LOL
If homos represent at most 2 percent of the general population, they might represent what — a tenth of that in conservative ranks?
The entire “conservative” homo caucus (get your mind out of the gutter!) could meet in a pup tent with plenty of room left over for the Mazola.
Funny thing about queers. I’ve worked with a couple who had religious tendencies and talk a bit of a conservative game re. social issues (other than “gay rights,” of course) and sometimes displayed a longing for normality and family life. Those guys gave me the feeling that they are Democrats just because they are made to feel welcome there.
That’s just too bad. I can’t see bringing in a load of sick puppies just because they might be persuaded to vote a certain way. They are simply not worth the trouble.
They long for Christian acceptance but they spurn the word of God. They yearn for family yet they practice a sexuality that biologically precludes reproduction. The clamor for normalcy while engaging in one of the world’s oldest and vilest perversions.
Yep, that degree of duplicity is more trouble than it’s worth.
“GOProud, it ought to be noted, by numbers, represents a tiny sliver of the conservative base. Social conservatives — especially Christians and religiously conservative Jews — account for a large majority of the conservative base. So, attempting to shame the majority of the base is probably not a pragmatic approach to the problem.”
That is probably the most NO DUH statement in history. If CPAC keeps ignoring “social/moral” conservatives...it becomes a meaningless organization. It may as well be a meeting of the Libertarian Party. True libertarians....meaning they support the full libertarian party platform....ARE NOT CONSERVATIVES.
“Real conservatives do not give a rat’s patootie what people do in the privacy of their homes if it doesn’t hurt others or cost the taxpayers money. As far as we are concerned, it is between them and their maker.”
I disagree. That is a libertarian view. Your private behavior affects your public behavior. While I don’t care to start looking through keyholes....I will clearly state that ALL homosexual behavior is ALWAYS wrong whether in private or public. I say the same thing about adultery...it is ALWAYS wrong and hurts society.
Um...Cosmos and fabulous hors d’oeuvres?
I understand your point, but unfortunately, unless you ARE willing to look through keyholes, how would you know or care?
I am not saying it is right. I am not saying it is healthy. But lacking any input from someone, a comment they make, an admission or whatever, how would you know?
As I said, I know exactly what you mean, but unless you know...how can you approve or disapprove of someone? I can come out and say forthrightly that I disapprove, but I can’t condemn any individual unless they tell me or I catch them in the act. Ugh.
“I understand your point, but unfortunately, unless you ARE willing to look through keyholes, how would you know or care?”
My point was to counter what I thought was a libertarian view of anything by “consenting adults” being OK. I can see that wasn’t your intent.
I’m beginning to see the “Liberatian Party” to being as dangerous to a well behaved society as liberal Democrats. While there is no doubt that on some issues I agree with libertarian viewpoints (better put they agree with me), on some crucial issues I see them as the enemy just like I do liberal democrats.
Who is this putz that wrote the article? Newsflash: those that engage in buggery have never be responsible for the "betterment of society" and never will.
It's what they're all about, since they define themselves by their sexual preference.
The table cloth and silverware?
All that and much, much more.
“sexual preference” is still a euphemism.
They define who they are by their desire to stick their [] in another man’s [].
I realize what they do. I don’t use that kind of graphic language, however.
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