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1 posted on 02/14/2011 7:51:48 AM PST by Kaslin
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A hyphenated-conservative anything is an oxymoron.

Conservatives aren't into group identity politics. They're just plain conservative.

2 posted on 02/14/2011 7:53:55 AM PST by skeeter
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Beat you ... by seconds.
3 posted on 02/14/2011 7:54:30 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free!)
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Until we succeed in getting smaller government, those of us who want smaller government had better quit this sniping at each other, or we will have larger government and no freedom. Either we hang together, or we hang separately.


4 posted on 02/14/2011 7:56:07 AM PST by Daveinyork
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Bravo, Star! CPAC’s acceptance of this group should have drawn fire from all conservatives.


5 posted on 02/14/2011 7:57:58 AM PST by Mach9
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This is absolutely true. You cannot be promoting the homosexual agenda and be a Conservative. They are mutually exclusive.


6 posted on 02/14/2011 7:59:05 AM PST by freedomwarrior998
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So...I'd say that Coulter didn't get the memo?

Ann Coulter at CPAC: Gays are natural conservatives

8 posted on 02/14/2011 8:03:02 AM PST by K-Stater
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Let us not forget this wisdom from Ronald Reagan:

The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor.


10 posted on 02/14/2011 8:05:00 AM PST by brownsfan (D - swift death of the republic, R - lingering death for the republic.)
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Yep, just another Trojan horse meant to destroy conservatism. I’m surprised at the number of conservatives who are fooled by it. They wouldn’t be if a bunch of prancing fairies came along and announced they were “right-wing communists.” But “gay conservatives?”... no problemo.


11 posted on 02/14/2011 8:05:28 AM PST by LibWhacker
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Social issues are not economic issues. What type of conservative is this article talking about?


13 posted on 02/14/2011 8:07:09 AM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience.)
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At this rate, the Tea Party will become the haven for true Conservatives & the GOP will become a joke beyond what they are displaying today.


14 posted on 02/14/2011 8:07:39 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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The premise is faulty. A person can be “gay” without being part of the gay rights movement, or associated with “gay causes”.

Saying there are no gay conservatives is akin to saying there are no black conservative simply because black organizations are almost all liberal political organizations which fight against conservative causes.

That analogy only extends to the concept of attaching to the name the organizations which carry it, not to the underlying and obvious difference between a person being “gay” and a person being “black”.

It has yet to be proven that being “gay” is not in the end a choice (again, to be clear, being “gay” is not the same as acting “gay” — one always has the choice of action, regardless of one’s “proclivities”).

I have no trouble believing that men who believe they are attracted to other men could also hold to conservative principles, any more than I believe that men who have any attraction to any sin could also have conservative principles.

I don’t think that this principle, as I have narrowly defined it, is a controversal one, even among the conservative activists. I think the problem is that we are using the term “gay conservative” as a placeholder for the more accurate “conservative gay activist”.

I would agree that it is unlikely that a gay activist will also be a conservative, because in my opinion the principles of conservatism would speak against the idea that a person’s sexual characteristics were of interest or concern of the government, or that they should receive special or disparate treatment.

But if we misuse terms, we once again appear to be defining “conservative” membership down to a small minority of the population.We exclude people of certain faiths, we exclude people of certain national origins, we exclude people of certain sexual orientations, we exclude and exclude and exclude, and eventually we have a dozen people in a room, looking at each other, and trying to find some other defining characteristic that 11 of them can use to get rid of the 12th.

I’ve got little use for gay political organizations like Log Cabin or GOProud; but I’m not ready to write off every person who is afflicted with the sin of same-sex attraction, regardless of whether they practice that sin or not.


15 posted on 02/14/2011 8:08:36 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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"When I understood how the culture of welfare state materialism was destroying not just my life, but all of black America, there was no dividing line in my mind between “social issues” and “economic issues.” The only dividing line I saw was between right and wrong, good and evil."

But, but, you're not allowed to see in black and white, only Green. This is America, where they, (phychologists, teachers, professors, elites), tell us there is no "right" or "wrong" answer to questions of morality, that everything is subjective, and that everyone has their own valid "truth". You need some remedial cultural teaching immediately. I suggust you hook up with a good therapist and tell him you're a sick person, because you actually believe you can determine the difference between right and wrong, good and evil, and that you believe in..... dare I say it......God. Next thing ya know, you'll start thinking that global warming is an Al Gore business venture.

16 posted on 02/14/2011 8:10:32 AM PST by jiminycricket000
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I don’t see why “gay conservative” is an oxymoron anymore than “black conservative” or “Catholic conservative” or “atheist conservative.” Conservatism is not defined by Star’s religious views.


19 posted on 02/14/2011 8:12:22 AM PST by Chiltepe
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“Gay” is everything that “conservative” is not.

Objectively looking at that statement in terms of truism, the statement is not true. Socially, of course it is. On economic issues, issues of national security, border control, taxation and size of government, there certainly are gays that hold a conservative view.

The question becomes, is conformity on social issues required to hold other conservative views?

23 posted on 02/14/2011 8:19:48 AM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience.)
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I’m jusr a poor, unsaved, ingnorant Jew. Maybe someone can explain what your Jesus meant when he said, “He who is without sin, let him cast the first stone.”

And what about all those Old Testement commandments that are no longer valid? Like eating ham? How come that is OK, but buggery is not?


32 posted on 02/14/2011 8:29:12 AM PST by Daveinyork
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Amen!


33 posted on 02/14/2011 8:30:48 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (" . . . HaShem, HaShem, 'Qel rachum vechanun, 'erekh 'appayim verav-chesed ve'emet!")
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I'll stand with Star and JimRob, regardless of the heat I've taken from others on FR regarding this issue.

If you support the homosexual agenda you are anti-Constitution and you'll get the zot from FR!

35 posted on 02/14/2011 8:32:56 AM PST by OB1kNOb (It is so cold today I saw Democrats walking around with their hands in their own pockets.)
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37 posted on 02/14/2011 8:36:58 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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"What individuals choose in private, and for which they bear personal responsibility, is separate from what we sanction publicly for which we all must bear responsibility. "

Well-thought, well-said.

38 posted on 02/14/2011 8:38:13 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (The Bible tells me so.)
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“gay” means happy, joyous, which these people certainly are not. They are homosexuals, not “gay”. My sister’s name is Gay and she was born in 1949. It’s a shame that her beautiful name is so disparaged.


49 posted on 02/14/2011 8:48:24 AM PST by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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