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Posted on 02/19/2011 2:32:21 AM PST by trumandogz
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Love the sinner, hate the sin.
Sorry, no sale.
And liberals call it compassion to lie about the answer to that question. Sending someone to hell in a state of sexual satisfaction is not an act of love.
No, it won't be considered a sin, it will be considered an alternative lifestyle.
Everyone is going to hell who doesn't receive Christ as their personal saviour (Jn.3:36)
Precisely, and anyone who continues in unrepentent homosexuality has not accepted Christ. Lying to them and telling them they have is most uncompassionate.
And there, I think, you have the answer.
I will openly admit there are LOTS of people who know Scripture far better than I. I only read, ponder, and act on what I come to understand.
The Bible is clear that homosexual acts are condemned, but I can't find where being homosexual is condemned. I know it seems like a fine line, but consider the other fine lines that are drawn.
So there seems to be recognition that the condition exists, and even tacit understanding that some people would have affection for their own sex, but clear prohibition against acting on it as well as admonition against lustful fantasizing. But genuine affection?
Channel it correctly, make it about genuine love and not lust, and I'd be hard pressed to find where the condemnation is.
If you love the sinner you tell them they need to repent. If you hate the sinner you encourage them to follow the road to Hell.
These people love the sin. Their professed love for these people is a lie.
Paul calls these affections "vile affections" and that's not as a compliment. What you call "being homosexual" Pauls calls being given up by God unto vile affections.
The Jewish approach, (NOT the nouveau-reformerino-americano approach but the standard Conservative and Orthodox approach), is “God says no. Says so right here.”
I suppose if this happens to you and you’re Jewish you could still find a nice lesbian Rabbette with a guitar - perhaps even one with Star of David inlays on the fretboard - to lead you in harmonious biblically themed songs, but at some point I suppose you’d wonder whether you weren’t making a life out of purposely violating God’s commandments.
Then again, I suppose the reason all sinners seek comfort with their kind is so that we can try to ignore the ways we are offending Him.
The only person sending any gays to hell is the gay himself. On that last day, you’re accountable for your actions.
Back in the 50’s you couldn’t get my Dad to attend church. He said they were just a bunch of hypocrites. Looks like he was right.
I understand your point re Romans 1:26, but in that same verse Paul specifically says, "changed the natural use, i.e., the act, and in 1:27 he refers to the unnatural lust.
And that is my point. The act, and lust connected with homosexuality, is clearly condemned.
But just as heterosexual men have a natural urge to get together with receptive women, the act of adultery, and the lust of fantasizing, are condemned. Being heterosexual is not condemned. Acting improperly is.
The church is full of people. People are imperfect. Most of us fit right in.
Sorry, but “being” homosexual is simply choosing that lifestyle. We ALL are created in God’s image and ALL are born heterosexual.
Homosexuality, like pedophelia, is a vile, disgusting choice that He rejects as an abomination.
Actually, Paul gives a long list of wrongdoers who won’t enter the Kingdom of God. Homosexual acts are just one of the items on the list, not singled out as particularly or uniquely sinful. Right in the middle of the list, in fact.
“Do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, sodomites, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, revilers, robbersnone of these will inherit the kingdom of God.”
Exile all fornicators, adulterers, greedy people, drunkards and revilers and you’ll have really thinned out the average church. :)
No-one can teach/preach what the Bible clearly declares of fornication and those given over to a reprobate mind without offending the sinner. I was enrolled in bible college when my youngest daughter was born. My son was just out of diapers. In highschool the public school system followed -what I am told is national policy and encouraged my son to “try it”(homosexual lifestyle) and “Decide for himself” (only when they had their answer form him were we brought in to their discussion. They were amazed that my son had LIED to them. And that though I am Christian -and will NOT compromise the Christian doctrine I do love my son.My son knows even today that I will Never tell him the LIE It’s Ok to be gay.I will not be supportive of that way that seems right ,but the end thereof is death.My sons friends know how I am convicted that their lifestyle choice is against God— but I can still love them enough to tell them I will NOT accept that choice—but they are more than a choice.