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The Real Crisis That Will Soon Hit the US
ZeroHedge ^ | 2/18/11 | Phoenix Capital Research

Posted on 02/19/2011 6:13:52 AM PST by HangnJudge

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To: jacquej
I'm impressed

Moccasins are relatively easy to make, with a source of soft leather

101 posted on 02/19/2011 7:55:35 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: The Antiyuppie
The problem is, you get the weapons in order to acquire the food (i.e., land, water). Hunger—>war just as much as war—>hunger. I daresay that most countries on earth can’t feed themselves. We could, but we’d have to skip the kiwi fruit.

I disagree. You have weapons to PROTECT that which you have.

If you think you can just march in and take what you want because you have a pistol, it could be a tragic mistake if your "victim" has a defend-able position, training, and superior firepower.

In fact it would be your last mistake.

102 posted on 02/19/2011 7:57:00 AM PST by China Clipper (My favorite animals usually are found next to the rice on my plate.)
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To: Graybeard58

Ha, ha, ha! Now that’s funny, I don’t care who you are.


103 posted on 02/19/2011 7:58:14 AM PST by tiki
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To: HangnJudge

This is an absolute recipe for disaster.

Been following these stories for the past few weeks. They are increasing in frequency. What’s not mentioned is that, even with the rise in food prices, it can become much worse as availibility is compromised as people begin to HOARD.

In the old Soviet Union, you may recall that as one type of staple became AVAILABLE, food lines would develop as people scrambled to acquire it - bread, toilet paper, meat etc.

Speaking with a former Russian, he told me that NO ONE was starving. They were all simply HOARDING food because of the concern over availability...


104 posted on 02/19/2011 7:58:34 AM PST by Paisan
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To: tiki

Thanks so much for sharing that story with me. My dad grew up in the last throes of the Great Depression, and spent his youth in the late 40’s early 50’s. Also, I was very close to my late great Grandmother who raised her only daughter, my maternal grandmother in the 30’s. She still washed her tin foil at 85, for reuse.

My dad’s parents lived in a tent for a while, and a house made of milk crates that burned down. My dad taught me lots of things. In his view the depression was mostly bad for city folks, as the farmers weren’t very wealthy anyway, they just further tightened their belts.

My dad told me some humbling stories of his parents living on wild asparagus on the river bank, and weevil infested oatmeal. One of the stories I’ll never forget is how one year his dad (who had about 8 kids I think at the time) drove from Southern Nevada up to Idaho (I think, but it may have been Utah) to get a truckload of cabbages which they ate that year. He said they scrounged for bottles and canned them as sauerkraut by the hundreds (of quart jars) and buried them in the cool ground.

My dad has given me advice about the coming crisis, with reminders like “As a kid, there were always beans in a pot on,” and such. He’s been a real treasure, and I’m grateful that he’s provided so much insight. Our progenitors went through some difficult times, and we’ll have our turn, I suspect. That’s how the Lord keeps us, or makes us humble.


105 posted on 02/19/2011 8:02:57 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: tiki
and soon the Feds will take over and then we’ll really be in a world of hurt

They did just that in the Lame Duck Session in December. Do a little research on HR2748/S.510/HR2751 FDA Food Takeover. That bill could increase the cost of many foods here in the U.S. by 50% due to the cost of compliance. The Congress and the Senate sold us out to Global Ag for a few pieces of silver. If you are hungry this year, don't blame a farmer, blame the lying POLs.

106 posted on 02/19/2011 8:03:19 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: AndyJackson

I take it as rhetorical, because I know little about hedge funds or trading. Though I have 2 degrees, I know little about the technicalities of the market. Growing up in Vegas, when my parent’s would talk about the market being up or down, I’d ask “Isn’t it just gambling? Some people win and some lose?” My dad said “Kinda” and that’s the last I thought about investing in anything but self reliance as long as the Fed/Bankster/Lawyers in Government are running things.

But there will come a time, and probably soon, sadly probably not without all out war, that the people will quit being pillaged to bail out anyone, and probably sooner than anyone in general expects. And then, as all fiat currencies do, our money will be worth nothing and we’ll either pick up the pieces as a sovereign nation, or be warred with by a Globalist order for decades.


107 posted on 02/19/2011 8:08:39 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: tiki; headsonpikes
The monsters running this regime know very well that in their hands, production and distribution of food is a weapon. With everything that implies. They are using it even now. And for those who think that's a bit, well, extreme - think again.

It has been used repeatedly throughout the twentieth century. To the tune of the deaths of millions.

108 posted on 02/19/2011 8:10:34 AM PST by Noumenon ("We should forgive our enemies, but not before they are hanged.")
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To: JDW11235

Speaking of potatoes. Does anyone else have problems with storage?
Used to be I could keep the tubers for a year, now....they rot much, much quicker.


109 posted on 02/19/2011 8:10:50 AM PST by griswold3
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks HangnJudge.
I'm talking about food shortages.
I'll bet famine will cause two-thirds of the world's population to die. ;')


110 posted on 02/19/2011 8:12:30 AM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Yeah, I know, regulation has hurt farmers but it just keeps on coming.


111 posted on 02/19/2011 8:13:24 AM PST by tiki
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To: Noumenon

I have always thought that the enviromental movement wanted people to die and people thought I was insane.


112 posted on 02/19/2011 8:15:22 AM PST by tiki
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To: griswold3

Do you mean ones that you grow yourself, or ones that you buy from the store. I have definitely noticed that they spoil quicker from the store. As a kid My family would buy them in droves on sale and keep for what seemed forever if cool and dark. But now I’ve had potatoes go bad, even in the fridge withing weeks. They turned to a sludgy, soupy moldy mess. I’m not sure why, but the reds seem to last a little longer for me, and IIRC these last ones I washed before storing and they’re growing eyes, but after 6 months or so are still ok (As far as I know, ha!)

I know some roots like onions/garlic (at least I’ve heard) are sprayed with an anti-sprouting spray. Maybe that’s why washing helps. It’s supposed to keep them asthetically better, I dunno if it is a factor or not. Like I said, I’ve noticed the store bought taters going bad quickly, haven’t grown any myself this year, but the ones with eyes are going into the ground this year, in my first adult attempt to grow em. Any advice is welcome!


113 posted on 02/19/2011 8:16:09 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: martin_fierro

I’ll never forget THAT movie.


114 posted on 02/19/2011 8:16:18 AM PST by tillacum (The American military keeps us free, not the politicians or media. Praise Be for them.)
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To: tiki

“I have always thought that the enviromental movement wanted people to die...”

Well, they’ve already said as much for earth, that we’re hurting “mother earth/gaia”

“...people thought I was insane.”

Typical of sheeple. They’ve never heard of a judas goat, obviously. :O


115 posted on 02/19/2011 8:18:08 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Poison Pill

I am hoping and praying some of this increase is due to the cold weather in the deep south and Mexico.


116 posted on 02/19/2011 8:23:36 AM PST by chickenlips (Karl Rove- the RINO ruminator, striking fear in donuts everywhere)
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To: griswold3

Dunno about potatoes but my turnips overwintered well this year out in the back yard. I dug up all my Jerusalem artichokes and dried them last fall...they’re good in soups and stews after you soak ‘em for a while.

This year I want to do Yukon Golds


117 posted on 02/19/2011 8:23:36 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: PIF

I do woodworking as a hobby and I’ve been using hand tools for a few years for most of my work. One of the trends in that hobby has been an increase in the quality and quantity of hand tools available, as well as more instruction in the ‘old ways’.

Blacksmithing also interests me, and I wonder if it is some gut feeling amongst many of us to re-learn some of these manual trades, either for “just-in-case” or because we feel something terrible is coming.

My interest in these manual trades started before I consciously thought any kind of global meltdown was coming.


118 posted on 02/19/2011 8:28:23 AM PST by Betis70 (First the House, then the Senate)
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To: HangnJudge

Soft Leather? Better keep my teeth in good repair!


119 posted on 02/19/2011 8:28:42 AM PST by jacquej
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To: JDW11235

I grow Yukon Gold that are naturally notorious for rotting faster than others. But, I just love fresh green beans, ham and potatoes! You cannot beat new potatoes!
We used to grow large crops of Kenebec potatoes. But I like Russert now. But They all don’t keep like they used to.


120 posted on 02/19/2011 8:31:37 AM PST by griswold3
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