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The Real Crisis That Will Soon Hit the US
ZeroHedge ^ | 2/18/11 | Phoenix Capital Research

Posted on 02/19/2011 6:13:52 AM PST by HangnJudge

Forget stocks, the real crisis is coming… and it’s coming fast.  

Indeed, it first hit in 2008 though it was almost entirely off the radar of the American public. While all eyes were glued to the carnage in the stock market and brokerage account balances, a far more serious crisis began to unfold rocking 30 countries around the globe.  

I’m talking about food shortages.  

Aside from a few rice shortages that were induced by export restrictions in Asia, food received little or no coverage from the financial media in 2008. Yet, food shortages started riots in over 30 countries worldwide. In Egypt people were actually stabbing each other while standing in line for bread.   We’re now seeing the second round of this disaster occurring in Egypt and other Arab countries today. Thanks to the Fed’s funny money policies, food prices have hit records. And even the Fed’s phony measures show that vegetable prices are up 13%!   The developed world, most notably the US, has been relatively immune to these developments… so far. But for much of the developing world, in which food and basic expenses consumer 50% of incomes, any rise in food prices can have catastrophic consequences.   And that’s not to say that food shortages can’t hit the developed world either.   According to Mark McLoran of Agro-Terra, the Earth’s population is currently growing by 70-80 million people per year. Between 2000 and 2012, the earth’s population will jump from six billion to seven billion. We’re expected to add another billion people by 2024. So demanding for food is growing… and it’s growing fast.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: collapse; doommonger; famine
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To: Big Giant Head; bigbob
What bb said is not entirely true. He is gaging every thing from the American markets. It is true there are no drastic shortages here, but there is only just so much active farm land available for crops every year.

The trend has gone heavily towards Corn. Which means that less will be put into grains for food. It is also a fact, that 39% of all Corn produced now goes into Ethanol production. (4 out of 10 truckloads) Add the new 15% Ethanol mandate and it will easily consume over half of the Corn produced here. This is also the main reason that prices at the grocery store have gone up so fast.

That huge volume of Corn lost to Ethanol here, will drastically cut into the World food supply. China has had a severe drought, India, Africa, etc,, which will require our surpluses to be sent over there to support their population.

The article is correct. World famine is a very real threat and it is going on as we write. There is no doubt about this fact.

61 posted on 02/19/2011 7:14:09 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: blam

I can still buy 20# bags of rice for $8-10, but I saw 50# bags of pinto beans at my local Sam’s had risen from $18 to $21. I try to store food by caanning any bargain foods i can find.


62 posted on 02/19/2011 7:14:28 AM PST by barb-tex
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To: Terry Mross
I bought one of these in 1993. I used it about four hours since:


63 posted on 02/19/2011 7:14:57 AM PST by blam
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To: JDW11235; All

“I have pity for those that will, as in the days of Noah, eat and drink until it’s too late, rather than prepare. My two cents.’

Preparation is always good. I have been preparing for over 40 years, and I believe that food is unlikely to be a major problem in the United States, unless shortages are politically caused and promoted to do it here. We produce huge surpluses of food that we sell all over the world, as does Canada.

Food shortages in much of the third world - very likely - and very nasty. Most of those are now caused by political situations where a nasty dictator or political party is using starvation as a weapon against people they dislike.

That is what we need to guard against here in the U.S.


64 posted on 02/19/2011 7:17:29 AM PST by marktwain
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To: JDW11235
"And I’m sure the (american) indians were warm in their blankets before they started dying (of smal pox)."

I thought that had been disproven.

65 posted on 02/19/2011 7:18:15 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

Why have you not used it?


66 posted on 02/19/2011 7:18:27 AM PST by Terry Mross (We need a SECOND party.)
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To: HangnJudge; bert

“There is never food shortage, there is lack of transport”

He means in the globalist sense that there’s always something somewhere. Which, even if it were true in principle (it’s not), there would have to be so much extra in the “somewhere” that had been produced in advance for the “where it’s needed.”

Not only Haiti, but a number of countries right now are suffering food damaging from flooding in the India area to fires in Russia to cold in the U.S. and Mexico. There’s lot of unforeseen problems. Transport isn’t the only problem in that global fantasy, money is. Those with the means will have food, those without will not. Hence it’s always better to be prepared and self sufficient than have your big screen and your hand out (not you personally).


67 posted on 02/19/2011 7:18:27 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: HangnJudge

“And even the Fed’s phony measures show that vegetable prices are up 13%! “

It would help if the government allowed California produce growers to irrigate their land.


68 posted on 02/19/2011 7:19:03 AM PST by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: Controlling Legal Authority
There are also other programs that pay farmers or subsidize them to some extent. I was told that the program paying you not to grow was originally based on the theory that letting some ground lay fallow was stopping erosion and that benefited the public at large.

It was an Old Testament law to the Jewish people to let the land lie fallow every 7th year. Nowhere in the O.T. will you find that the government will take care of you that year. It was to let the land "rest" every 7th year and you were supposed to store up food during the previous 6 years to carry you through the 7 th.

The people got in a lot of trouble for disobeying that law, (among others).

69 posted on 02/19/2011 7:19:09 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country. The thing is, Sarah loves mine.)
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To: PIF
Making and using hand tools...

The art of making clothes...

But if the production of cloth fails....
When was the last time you saw a spinning wheel?
much less, knew how to use one
Rawhide?

70 posted on 02/19/2011 7:19:29 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: GailA
When I went to the Navy Commissary last Tue the box of 2 min oatmeal I usually purchase for 95 cents was $1.99.

Not only did the price go up, it's now 4 minute oat meal!

71 posted on 02/19/2011 7:21:27 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country. The thing is, Sarah loves mine.)
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To: blam

And then we get to face something similar to this:

Prosecutors Office vows to crack down on food hoarding (Taiwan) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2676194/posts

We’ve been very quiet about our food storage.


72 posted on 02/19/2011 7:22:14 AM PST by FrogMom (No such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: tiki

“I’ve heard people say that there is land out there to be farmed, and there is, but where do you get the farmers?”

Bingo, in farming you must have 3 things:
1) The resources.
2) The know how and skill.
3) God’s providence.

Any kind of agricultural endeavor needs all three, because if you have nothing to plant, nowhere to plant it, no idea how to cultivate or process it, or the weather, vermin or diseases get to it. Then you have nothing. It’s not prudent to put all one’s eggs in one basket. Which is exactly what the government is doing, trying to break the U.S. with midnight sneaky food bill votes, and corporation subsidies.

Control the food, control the people. They can never control ALL the food, but catastrophe can hit, and providence squandered away.


73 posted on 02/19/2011 7:24:26 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Terry Mross
"Why have you not used it?"

Too much work. It's cheaper/easier to buy food at the local produce stand. I grow some tomatoes and bell peppers each year in a 8' X 8' plot. I keep the tiller in running condition, 'just in case'.

I have all sort of things, 'just in case'. LOL.

Last Sunday I stopped a my local grocer store and tomatoes were priced at $4.00 a pound. I bought some 5' tall tomato and pepper plants yesterday

74 posted on 02/19/2011 7:25:42 AM PST by blam
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To: Just another Joe

Live in Virginia?
Ah, fresh mountain fruit...mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


75 posted on 02/19/2011 7:26:45 AM PST by aces
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To: JDW11235

Ie Motor oil is not vegetable oil.

Question: Where is the canola plant grown? (Just messin’ with ya’.)


76 posted on 02/19/2011 7:26:46 AM PST by Terry Mross (We need a SECOND party.)
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To: FrogMom
"We’ve been very quiet about our food storage."

Around here, hoarding food, guns, ammo and gold has become fashionable. (I'm in a rural area)

77 posted on 02/19/2011 7:28:49 AM PST by blam
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To: HangnJudge
This is an absolute recipe for disaster.

On the bright side, my local Costco is offering cuts of USDA PRIME Beef in the case alongside the usual selections of USDA Choice.

78 posted on 02/19/2011 7:31:54 AM PST by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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To: blam
There was a recent robbery where some poor soak lost over 750,000 worth of Silver ingots. Thieves broke in and took it all. (Uninsured)

He also thinks it was someone who knew him. He let too many people know about it. I'm sure he is the kind that brags a lot.

79 posted on 02/19/2011 7:32:43 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: marktwain

“Food shortages in much of the third world - very likely - and very nasty. Most of those are now caused by political situations where a nasty dictator or political party is using starvation as a weapon against people they dislike.

That is what we need to guard against here in the U.S.”

Agreed. There is almost always food available somewhere, it’s just at what price. Growing one’s own food helps as a buffer against commercial shortages which is part of why I garden. My dad forced me, against my will as a kid, to stick it out gardening in the Las Vegas Desert, teaching me how to grow a garden and enjoy the fruits of ones labor in even one of the harshest environments. I’ve recently learned of permaculture and despite it’s environmentalism nutjobs, I think it’s a great breakthrough in small scale farming.

What we need to worry about in the U.S. not just the catastrophes, but the parties which would enslave us through the use of (or lack of) food.


80 posted on 02/19/2011 7:33:06 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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