Skip to comments.Somali Pirates Kill 4 Americans on Hijacked Ship
Posted on 02/22/2011 7:33:13 AM PST by Allthegoodusernamesaregone
WASHINGTON, Feb. 22, 2011 Somali pirates killed all four Americans they had held hostage aboard a sailing vessel in the Indian Ocean this morning, U.S. Central Command officials announced.
U.S. officials were negotiating with the pirates for the safe return of the captured Americans when the murders took place, officials said.
Centcom officials said that in the midst of negotiations, U.S. forces responded to gunfire aboard the S/V Quest. When the forces reached the boat, officials said, they discovered all four hostages had been shot by their captors. Despite immediate steps to provide life-saving care, all four hostages ultimately died of their wounds.
During the boarding, the Somali pirates fired on the U.S. forces, who killed two pirates and captured 13 others. U.S. forces already had captured two other pirates, and the servicemembers boarding the Quest found the remains of two other pirates.
In total, it is believed 19 pirates were involved in the hijacking of the S/V Quest, Centcom officials said.
We express our deepest condolences for the innocent lives callously lost aboard the Quest, said Marine Corps Gen. James N. Mattis, Centcoms commander.
The pirates seized the boat Feb. 18 off the coast of Oman. Somali pirates - often operating from mother ships far out to sea -- have captured scores of ships and generally have held the ships and crews for ransom. News reports indicate Somali pirates currently hold 29 ships with more than 660 hostages.
Piracy in the region occurred originally off of Somalias east coast for several years. In August 2009, the pirates extended their attacks to the Gulf of Aden, between Yemen and Somalias north coast. The pirates since have ranged farther out to sea - up to 600 miles - and now affect more than a million square miles in the Gulf of Aden, the west Indian Ocean and the Red Sea.
The United States has worked closely with regional and international partners to attack the problem. In this case, American forces closely monitored and tailed the Quest. Four U.S. Navy warships made up a response force dedicated to recovering the S/V Quest: the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise, the guided-missile cruiser USS Leyte Gulf, the guided-missile destroyers USS Sterett and USS Bulkeley.
imprisoned for lifeThe problem is life in prison in the US probably beats life in their sh1t-hole country.
They need to become shark food at the scene of the crime. That's a lesson that will attract attention back in the sh1t-hole homeland.
I saw it right away and corrected it in a quick repost but this is such an active thread that it was already 4 more posts down.
But you’re right. Spell check doesn’t correct most usage mistakes. That is the posters responsibility. And here on FR we have no excuse since all posts are auto-previewed.
Tow the boat with the remains of 13 dead hamburgered pirates wrapped in pig skins to a somali port with a sign saying."SEND MORE MEAT" signed The U.S.Marines.DING! DING! DING!
We have a winner!
Furthermore, the families of stupid people should be billed for the services of professionals who end up being dragged into their stupidity. Like the idiots who try to row across the Atlantic, or a teenage girl trying to sail around the globe solo, or mountain climbers, or north pole expeditions, etc., etc., ad nauseum.
Our taxes bail these people out. It makes me wanna puke
you are right on all counts...except we need to go in there and decimate the entire enclave of pirates...just kill them all.....
just because some of our citizens are morons for being where they oughtn't to be (think of those 3 morons who were ‘visiting’ Iraq for a vacation and ‘accidentally’ wandered into Iran....just idiots)....
....does not mean that we are not going to avenge their deaths....
Obama will be on TV this afternoon stating this would have had the appearance the Navy was attempting to break the pirates' labor union.
Whoever, on the high seas, commits the crime of piracy as defined by the law of nations, and is afterwards brought into or found in the United States, shall be imprisoned for life.
This is so wrong on multiple levels, the least of which is supporting their no count sorry a$$es with taxpayer funds for the rest of their days.
F’em, sounds like a prime opportunity to get in a little target practice leaving one alive to tell the tale to his compadres back at home port.
As for the Americans killed, I feel bad for the families of the Darwin Award winners. These idiots decided to yacht in a trouble area? They think their wealth protects them from reality? Sorry, too stupid for me to care about.
I care about people involved in shipping, not idiots on vanity cruises choosing to go through a pirate infested region.
The guys over on arfcom were talking about what a good bachelor party event the pirate problem could be turned into.
Get a few boats, lots of beer, rail mounted full-auto weapons, and have at it.
Pirates vs. international shipping is another story. The problem is with international laws of the sea and the agreements signed. Commercial ships cannot be armed, or fight their way out of bad situations, nor enter ports armed. So, we're hamstrung. We need to dissolve those agreements and train crews to use a stinger missile or two on these idiots. What's the cost of that, versus loss of entire cargo and ship?
We need to get a clunky old freighter, fill it with Marines, weapons, and electronics.....and troll around for a while wiping them out. Make a great movie....Company "X" get's fed up losing ships, outfits a tramp steamer, kicks butt. I'd pay to see THAT movie.
Our King communists black Muslim occupier of the White HouseYou probably typed fast which is why you got the terminology wrong. The correct title is:
King Kenyan Communist Black Muslim Occupier
You are forgiven. :)
Are you trying to say that no Americans should be allowed to go to sea, because it’s their fault if they were attacked by pirates?
They were at least 500 miles from Somalia when they were attacked.
There have been pirate attacks in the Carribean, too. Does that mean no Americans can sail there?
Freedom of the high seas is a basic principle, which we certainly cannot give up. The Navy should have sunk the pirate vessel with the crew on board. But then I suppose Obama would have had them all courtmartialed, like the Haditha Marines. (And that started under Bush!)
This is so wrong on multiple levels
Hopefully, someone in our new Republican controlled House can introduce legislation to straighten out this travesty of Justice.
44 posts before we get then usual FR “no sympathy” post from a bunker somewhere
on the Logan threads it was immediate
you guys and gals are too funny...anything happens to anyone tragic anywhere and first observation from tough boys and some cat ladies here is it must have been their fault...they had it coming...it’s just not right to blame crazy stoked primitve pirates for their actions..it’s the yachts fault for being there
methinks that on this thread unlike the Logan spectacle you’ll get less high fives for being so hardcore bro..lol
you get a pancake...with maple syrup
then you can puke...
I need to know more, but they appear to be modern Christian martyrs.
They seem to be more like modern stupidos to me. What on earth are they doing near the African East coast. Why should we spend one dollar or risk one soldier on people who think they can go anywhere they want in the world? The world is a dangerous place and any person of any nationality who thinks that they should be able to travel unmolested or even killed is living in fantasy-land.
If Obama does not authorize the Navy to summarilly execute those dirty Muslim pirates, it will show the world he is a WEAKLING...and probably an Islamic sympathizer.
The guys over on arfcom were talking about what a good bachelor party event the pirate problem could be turned into.I've read this suggestion before.
Heavily Armed Reality Cruises.
Expensive? You bet.
Fun? You bet!
Obama is weak. The world knows it.
Thanks! I just have a feeling many people are missing the issue here.
Freedom of the high seas is a basic principle, which we certainly cannot give up.
“...Its sad that 4 American citizens being murdered will get less coverage ...”
What’s even sadder is that those Americans were prevented by LAW from arming themselves and having a fighting chance to kill the scumbag animals BEFORE they got killed themselves.
What’s even sadder is that those Americans were prevented by law FROM HAVING THE MEANS to repel these f*cking savages while they were boarding - and instead had to wait until help arrives - just in time to draw chalk lines around their bodies. Gee...wonderful help there... A couple of 500.00 dollar used surplus AK47s or AK74s in the hands of an armed, determined crew would have RIDDLED the animals while they were climbing aboard, or shortly thereafter.
That’s what’s really sad. There was a time when Americans went armed pretty much everywhere. And made no bones about it.
What we’ve been brainwashed into letting ourselves become is pathetic...
Holder will find a way to reduce the charges and get them off.
Now that they have killed our citizens why not just load all the pirates on the yacht and use it for target practice? No survivors.
Send more meat indeed-!!
They were called ‘Q’ ships during WWII.
A surcharge that will have to be added to shipped goods and commodities to compensate for raids where the pirates collect as much as $9,000,000 in ransom per ship and are now estimated to have killed numerous crews and collected some $300,000,000 in ransom of people and cargos. They have also started capturing oil tankers and now apparently are considering reselling the oil to other terrorist states.
Before you start blaming the victim, think about the total picture.
And it is heartbreaking. We dont need any no-go places in this day and age, but unfortunately the US and other countries didnt step in to stop this when it got started and now its only extending itself further every day.
We already pay a surcharge and it is called our taxes. I am tired of paying for the protection of multinationals who have left our country to put jobs in the hands of other peoples. And then want us to pay the premium of taxes so they can make monies anywhere. Let them pay for their own d.....d protection!
We have always had NO-GO places, like innercities of many American cities, and many highways and byways throughout the world. The world is and always has been a dangerous place.
It is their waters let them deal as they want. Lawless areas get poorer and poorer.
You bring up a good point, NFHale. It is INTERNATIONAL LAW, that our collective pussy government in Washington signed on to, that prevents private individuals and companies from defending themselves at sea.
So those who want to moan and complain about “taxpayer funded rescues” should address themselves to that law. If we abrogate treaties that deny Americans their god-given constitutional rights, then maybe we wouldn’t even need the US Navy to intervene.
I think you misspelled the last three letters in your name, Chickensoup.
I mean, you are basically advocating a strategy of cut’n’run, you know.
Two of the Americans killed were Christian missionaries. I doubt very seriously they’d hose the pirates with an AK-47.
And here we have what could easily be construed as an act of war against the US and we are simply rolling over and snoring.. thanks to the present administration!
With that Naval frigate nearby, we must be sure those Pirate cowards are shark’s lunches before they get to their virgins....
Two of the Americans killed were Christian missionaries. I doubt very seriously theyd hose the pirates with an AK-47.If everyone else were packing AK-47s, or ship-to-ship missles, or whatever they deemed appropriate (I think a 50 cal machine gun would do just fine), then there would be very few pirates and the missionaries would never have been approached.
Do you have a reference for that Federal law ? US Gun control on international waters is beyond the pale, sounds crazy. Is it really a US law?
What is interesting is when the PRChinese get captured or killed.
You would think this would be cut and dried. But every forum has its contrarians, I guess.
What is that great body of peace loving problem solvers known as the U.N. doing about this? How they can continue to occupy prime space in America is beyond me.
Exactly. What the heck would they bother caturing 13 animals for? To spend millions on and get all kinds of grief from the left? Hoping to end up with the death sentence? Just speed up the justice process and kill them on site.
Isn’t it maritime law to just hang pirates where ever they are found?
Is there anyway we could donate a couple million to Blackwater and have them kill these cowards off?
I think you misspelled the last three letters in your name, Chickensoup.
I mean, you are basically advocating a strategy of cutnrun, you know.
No I am not cutting and running, I am done.
I am done with taking care of multinationals that have gutted this country and still want US protection. You want our protection, get your production back into our country.
I am done with playing cop. If that mess called Europe, the middle east and Asia can’t take care of themselves, tough.
I want to focus on the US. I want to focus on extending our water boundaries, and making our country safer and freer. IF you have read a little of what I have been writing for the past few days you will know that it isnt about fear, it is about freedom for our citizens.
RE Hoagy62: “...Two of the Americans killed were Christian missionaries...”
Just because you’re a “Christian Missionary” doesn’t mean you have to be stupid and let yourself or others be murdered in your presence if you can prevent it.
And what does it say about anyone who would let others be murdered without lifting a finger to even TRY to stop it from happening? Life is a gift from God - murder is a sin. Suicide is a sin. NOT preventing yourself from being murdered, if you can possibly do so, is suicide. Killing the would-be killer is NOT murder - it is justifiable self-defense.
And even if it THEY weren’t armed, the Crew should have been, regardless of whatever stupid international law there is.
No law in the world supercedes your RIGHT to not be murdered without putting up one hell of a vulgar brawl.
RE Sickoflibs: “Do you have a reference for that Federal law ? US Gun control on international waters is beyond the pale, sounds crazy. Is it really a US law?”
I don’t have the specific reference brother, but it came up back during the Maersk Alabama (??) ship-jack last year in one of the threads. I’m sure there’s folks out here who could find it instantly, though.
Comes down to cheap protection (surplus AKs or whatever and a some basic training for the crew) versus a bunch of Dead Americans and millions of dollars of taxpayer money for US Naval Warships to intercept and engage, with the potential resulting damage to millions of dollars worth of shipping/freight/oil....etc...
Just awful. These people apparently knew about the pirates. Turned off their electronics and tried to sneak by. I am some what surprised el heffemacdaddy even sent a Navy ship to the area to try to help them. I am surprised he even let the Navy kill any of the pirates.
glad to know that the Obama admin did everything in their power to save these people. /sarcasm off
There's a section in your city known for muggings, shootings, and rape. So.....do you prudently avoid that section of town, or are you STUPID and stroll through alone on a Saturday night with $100 dollar bills hanging out of your pants?
STUPID people do that.
Now that sounds like it would be a real blast!
This Bud’s for you.
Waffle Hut, yum, bring 'em on.
You should know me by now. I heard this before on FNC :
There is some confusion on this answer, because I think people might not be getting the difference in naval terminology between GUNS and SMALL ARMS.
There are laws regarding placing guns on a merchant ship, which can effectively make said ship a legal target in military operations. Essentially, a GUN is one of the deck mounted cannons you see on destroyers, cruisers, etc. SMALL ARMS, however, are a different category... and crews COULD legally be armed as such. Here's some reasons why a lot of crews AREN'T armed, however:
1) The pirates have grenade and small rocket launchers. They could potentially do a lot more damage against a crew armed with small arms
2) Merchant crews aren't generally trained in small arms combat
3) Pirates have yet to kill a single hostage, so most nations consider ransoming to be a valid alternative to a potentially lethal fight (that also makes the kill score 5:0 in our favor)
4) a significant number of freighters attacked by pirates are chemical haulers or oil tankers. If hit by an RPG or Rocket, or even by a stray bullet, those chemical or oil tanks could explode and kill the crew while causing environmental catastrophe
5) cost of comparable arms... while AK-47s are cheap, rocket launchers aren't. Not smart to bring a toothpick to a sword fight
6) Fishing trawlers are about 20 times more common than pirates in the area. Shooting up a fishing family would be VERY bad press.
7) pirates use surprise attacks with speed boats. Often the small crews of freightors don't even know the pirates are attacking until they're already climbing on board, even before that the boats can go 35 mph, which actually makes a fairly hard target to hit.
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