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Head Start Is Closing Down All Over
First Hand ^ | 2-25-2011 | A CA Guy

Posted on 02/25/2011 6:49:18 PM PST by A CA Guy

My sister who works for Head Start says next Friday is it in CA. They had a meeting today saying they are all gone. She was told it is all closing at least in this state and maybe across the nation at least in part.

Sure, budget issues is the way it goes, but how long before we get more bonds and BS (FOR THE CHILDREN)?

The Los Angeles times in the source link is there to show you they already blamed Republicans even though in this state the Democrats run the show.

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Almost only Spanish only speakers use this program in CA, so it is in some way an illegals baby sitting service. Hope the Democrats don't wiggle this into politics, because this is nothing compared to the cuts that need to be IMO.
1 posted on 02/25/2011 6:49:21 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: A CA Guy
Free baby sitting. I didn't have head start or kindergarten when I was a kid, I had parents.
2 posted on 02/25/2011 6:52:14 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country. The thing is, Sarah loves mine.)
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To: A CA Guy

Head Start is something I haven’t thought of in years. I used to be involved in the weekly 4 hour live uplink that went nationwide. Talk about dull air.


3 posted on 02/25/2011 6:53:51 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: A CA Guy

My mother was one of the earliest employees of head start and worked for them for nearly 20 years. It became all about the grant money.

Just one more federal money hole and social programing nursery.


4 posted on 02/25/2011 6:53:53 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Graybeard58

Sittin’ here chuckling at that great tagline.


5 posted on 02/25/2011 6:54:18 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: A CA Guy

Head Start is supposed to provide great academic support for young disadvantaged students. It doesn’t. The advantages are very short term and the advantages disappear in a couple of years. This is a true liberal feel good program. And it is as effective as most true liberal feel good programs.


6 posted on 02/25/2011 6:54:27 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: A CA Guy
Exactly. Racist bullshit program. White kids start school at age 5, black and brown kids start school at 3 - a "head start".

And of course White parents pay for the vast majority of the program.

The Welfare state is failing, and with it much of "minority achievement" - a fantasy made up of special programs, welfare, affirmative action and government jobs will dispear with it. Much of the black middle class will disapear with FedGov, thought the NFL and NBA guys will still be making the big bucks.

It's gonna be an interesting decade.

7 posted on 02/25/2011 6:55:03 PM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: cripplecreek

She may know the name Carolyn Dorell, she was the presenter of nationwide Head Start video uplinks that went on for years.


8 posted on 02/25/2011 6:55:03 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: A CA Guy

My mom made me breakfast until she taught me how to cook my own.


9 posted on 02/25/2011 6:59:24 PM PST by Walmartian
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To: Jack Black

bump!


10 posted on 02/25/2011 7:01:14 PM PST by Leisler (Our debts are someone's profit. Follow the money, the vig.....)
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To: wally_bert

When my mother finally walked away she was transportation director for this region. It was the unionista bus drivers that finally drove her out. Bunch of vicious drunken animals demanding more money than was in the budget.


11 posted on 02/25/2011 7:01:40 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Jack Black

Minorities are raised believing that makeing it in the middle class is a government job of ANY sort. They are taught that these are the only jobs they cannot be fired from no matter how bad the economy or how piss poor their performance.

I walk into a Federal building in a 95% white area and 50% plus of the employees are minorities. Some places it’s more like 80%.


12 posted on 02/25/2011 7:04:15 PM PST by liberty or death
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To: liberty or death

Where immigrants (any immigrants) come from, government jobs are about the only ones that aren’t “black market,” and there for subject to extortion, clearance, or jail time.

Sort of like the US is getting to be. Want to braid your friends’ hair for a little snack money? Don’t try it!


13 posted on 02/25/2011 7:08:42 PM PST by Tax-chick (Some brothers have humongous monsters, and some don't. Live with it.)
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To: A CA Guy

“Hope the Democrats don’t wiggle this into politics”

I assure you politics is the reason Head Start was chosen for closure first.

The media wants red meat and the Dems serve it up. Angry mothers without government-supplied baby-sitters will be sicced on Republicans.
“Women and minorities hardest hit” the first phrase taught in J-school.


14 posted on 02/25/2011 7:11:12 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: cripplecreek

I think that it was really meant for those children who needed early intervention but then it just became a free babysitting service.

Now they have to have other government funded programs for special needs children.


15 posted on 02/25/2011 7:14:47 PM PST by tiki
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To: liberty or death
they have learned to game the system, just like they have every other government program or handout.

They serve the shortest stint possible in the military to collect military benefits for life, then work one government job after another for the absolute minimum to collect retirement benefits for life (in many cases at nearly full pay). By the time they are done, they are collecting 3 or more retirements, getting free healthcare at the VA, and collecting social security disability on top of it all because at some point along the way they hurt their back *cough*

It makes me sick.

16 posted on 02/25/2011 7:15:06 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Carter 2.0 The Epic Fail Edition)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks A CA Guy.
The Los Angeles times in the source link is there to show you they already blamed Republicans even though in this state the Democrats run the show.

17 posted on 02/25/2011 7:17:06 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Tax-chick

The people I have experience with at the federal and state jobs are usually born and raised here. Mostly blacks from different cities willing to move anywhere for what they have been taught is success. A government job. My main point isn’t that they are bad it’s that this is all many have “learned” growing up. That is sad in this great country.

Immigrants in my area? maybe 1% and they work mostly for the local farms and ranches. Paid housing in good homes, good wages and freedom.


18 posted on 02/25/2011 7:18:07 PM PST by liberty or death
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To: liberty or death

Thee mother5s need to stay home and be mothers. It is criminal to drop kids off at age 3. These women should be prosecuted.


19 posted on 02/25/2011 7:20:35 PM PST by Benchim
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To: A CA Guy
My sister who works for Head Start says next Friday is it in CA.

One or two months ago, there was a report that the White House requested from the OMB, "grading" Federal Programs from 0 to 100% effectiveness. Anything below 70% can safely be considered questionable; under 40% is a clear "FAIL".

As I recall, Head Start was in the mid 30s.
Unfortunately, the bureaucracy sees to it that any embarrassing data like that is virtually impossble for the ordinary citizen to obtain. I spent a couple of days trying to download the data in the form it was presented on cable news, but failed.
OMG! I just tried again and here it is...

Rating Decades Old Ongoing Failed Federal Programs

Worth poking around, even if the site forces you to find the data for each of the gazillion Federal Departments separately. And the numerical rating is not given; however, ineffective pretty much covers it.
I laugh when the elected and appointed criminals in the Executive Department ask us with moronic expressions, "where do you want us to cut?

Are you s******g me?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/expectmore/rating/notperform.html

20 posted on 02/25/2011 7:21:12 PM PST by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: liberty or death

These mothers need to stay home and be mothers. It is criminal to drop kids off at age 3. These women should be prosecuted.


21 posted on 02/25/2011 7:21:12 PM PST by Benchim
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To: A CA Guy

Good. Shut it all down.


22 posted on 02/25/2011 7:22:42 PM PST by ColdOne (AZamericonnie stole my tagline & won’t give it back!”:))
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To: liberty or death

Local and moved-in black people are a large percentage of government employees here, too. They’re favored for hiring. We have a significant percentage of immigrants, legal and illegal, but they have “real” jobs. Eastern Europeans tend to have mechanic skills, such as fixing the dryer. Mexicans or Central Americans are in agriculture or building/repair trades.

However, a “legal,” secure job in Mexico or Egypt is a government job. It will be interesting, if the system holds up that long, to see if the Post Office is staffed by the American-born children of today’s illegals, in 40 years.


23 posted on 02/25/2011 7:24:07 PM PST by Tax-chick (Some brothers have humongous monsters, and some don't. Live with it.)
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To: A CA Guy

Expect more of the same ‘blame game’ in days to come.

Republicans will be painted over and over and over by the
the leftist media whores as the ones to blame for everything
that pops up.

Who cares. It’s not like we can’t get the truth out there...for now.


24 posted on 02/25/2011 7:24:34 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (They don't need to do another 911. They have BHO and the Fleebaggers.)
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To: tiki; Tax-chick

Our grandkids (who live with us) attended Head Start for 2-3 years. It was a positive experience, definitely, but then schools and teachers are pretty good in this area while people complain vehemently about them in others.

Believe me, it wasn’t a babysitting service for us. We love every minute with the kids (well, almost) and I had to drive two 20 mile round trips each day to drop them off and call for them. Burned a bunch of gas and a Geo Metro!


25 posted on 02/25/2011 7:29:32 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: cripplecreek
It was the unionista bus drivers that finally drove her out. Bunch of vicious drunken animals demanding more money than was in the budget.

When was this exactly? How many more years has the total waste of money scam been going until somebody said, "Hey! Wait a sec here..."

See my post #20.

26 posted on 02/25/2011 7:30:43 PM PST by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: Benchim

Yeah, I think I should be prosecuted, too! (post #25).

Just so I get free meals and health insurance for life in a prison like the one Madoff is in.

BTW, the kids are turning out fine.


27 posted on 02/25/2011 7:31:42 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: steve86

Kids can get a lot out of a preschool program. Several of my children went to church preschool, before it got too expensive.

However, there is a difference between observing that a child had a good time and learned something in preschool, and proving that it had long-term educational advantages over not attending. The justification for Head Start as a federal program was that it would produce life-long improvements in outcome for children from poor families.


28 posted on 02/25/2011 7:33:32 PM PST by Tax-chick (Some brothers have humongous monsters, and some don't. Live with it.)
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To: A CA Guy
Libs like to tout Head Start as a real leg up for kids from poor families. In truth, those kids do well for the first couple of years, but after 3rd Grade, they don't do any better than their peers, and many start to slide backwards.

Seems like it's mainly an expensive Day Care program.

29 posted on 02/25/2011 7:36:52 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: SunkenCiv
The Los Angeles times in the source link is there to show you they already blamed Republicans even though in this state the Democrats run the show. after listening to some of John And Ken today i am starting to blame the repubs in that state to.
30 posted on 02/25/2011 7:37:21 PM PST by ColdOne (AZamericonnie stole my tagline & won’t give it back!”:))
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To: Publius6961

My mother walked away around 20 years ago.

Just filthy business all around. You sell your soul writing grant requests for programs like that.


31 posted on 02/25/2011 7:39:40 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: A CA Guy
headstart was started because, after the 60’s successful riots in the colleges etc - these kids graduated and went out and largely reverted to the values taught to them in their homes as children.

So they moved to take over the public schools and younger kids - but dang it, too many of them also either stayed with or reverted to their upbringing.

So, they got the movement going to get women out to work - and then provide headstart to help for ‘babysitting.’
the rationale for Headstart?

DIRECT QUOTE from one of their conference manuals: “We must get to them [children] starting by age 2 BEFORE THEIR PARENTS HAVE INSTILLED THEIR VALUES IN THEM.”

As far as the mantra that Headstart gave kids a better start in school, studies showed that by 3rd-4th grade, kids were so burned out of being in school that they lost ground.

Children need their first few years at home to have time to get a good sense of themselves as an individual, not just one of a group.

And we know how the commies feel about individualism.

32 posted on 02/25/2011 7:40:57 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: liberty or death
I walk into a Federal building in a 95% white area and 50% plus of the employees are minorities. Some places it’s more like 80%.

Sometime in the 70s welfare was attached to the "Public Employee" system at all levels, and became the 60-pound tail that wags the 80-pound dog.

I have visited the Engineering and Planning Departments at many County offices for decades, and on a more than a few occasions, right in the middle of of a transaction, she/he (union member) has said, "I have to go now; it's time for my scheduled break." Negotiated Union Rule?

Can you imagine any private-sector employee ever doing that to a customer? and keeping their job?

33 posted on 02/25/2011 7:40:56 PM PST by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: A CA Guy

The good news is, there will be a sudden surplus of short buses for unemployed and illegal immigrant families to live in.


34 posted on 02/25/2011 7:41:29 PM PST by lurk
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Yep. This needs to go away as it is wholly a waste of money and an empowerment of the nanny state (literally).


35 posted on 02/25/2011 7:43:40 PM PST by fightinJAG (TAXPAYERS OF THE WORLD UNITE)
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To: Benchim
These mothers need to stay home and be mothers. It is criminal to drop kids off at age 3. These women should be prosecuted.

It is designed to give the mothers a head start on the next fatherless baby.

36 posted on 02/25/2011 7:44:14 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: A CA Guy

Well...shouldn’t that ol’ playin’ field be about leveled by now?!?


37 posted on 02/25/2011 7:44:26 PM PST by bannie (( CAW! ))
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To: Graybeard58

I have to say, it’s pretty amazing that CA would cut Head Start rather than work on public sector union costs.


38 posted on 02/25/2011 7:45:38 PM PST by fightinJAG (TAXPAYERS OF THE WORLD UNITE)
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To: Tax-chick

I am not attempting to make a generalization to any other kids, or any other Head Start facility, not am I referring merely to the “fun” quotient.

But in our case we can trace back to where they began to learn letters, for example, in Early Head Start (with reinforcement at home, of course), to whole words in Head Start, on through the progression to the present day. The socialization function also was important, since as grandparents we weren’t in contact with other small children. In this manner of looking at the kids’ development longitudinally the longer term benefit is there; we see it also in the comments on their report cards. Believe me, none of their counterparts in their father’s family get compliments like that!

Yes, they would have acquired the intellectual and social skills eventually anyway (probably), but a head start is always an advantage.


39 posted on 02/25/2011 7:46:05 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: A CA Guy

There’s been enough studies to show that Head Start is useless, as the kids drop to average within maybe two years of getting out.

It would be something entirely different if they actually made an effort to teach the kids reading as I did for my kids when they were that age (psst...PHONICS!!!!), but that is not politically correct - so they never actually learn to read, and thus are unable to take off on their own and stay ahead.

It’s just another waste of government money, added to our debt.


40 posted on 02/25/2011 7:48:14 PM PST by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: liberty or death

Sounds like a typical state agency too.


41 posted on 02/25/2011 7:50:40 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: SuziQ
many start to slide backwards

Probably true in many cases (I think I read an abstract of the study also), but as I've alluded to, our kids' grades are improving each year through elementary school. Much better now than you ever would have thought possible.

The key is that you need followup from the parents and the school system.

42 posted on 02/25/2011 7:51:05 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: Tax-chick
I live in SC Montana so counted minorities here are mostly American Indians of which I am nearly half. Look as white as a Swede so the Cherokee got stuck in other members of the family and I don't claim anything other then white on a census. Should have a box that says Patriot or American 1st. I'll check that.

These Indians do not seek employment whether government or other so I don't include them in any local work statistic. They have welfare and whatever tribal payment they get from oil, gas or farm leases from their chosen area. Pennies really compared to even a modest job. They live in houses that disinigrate around them while they compete for the worst house move to the top of the federal repair or replace list.

What's horrible and sad is that it takes 8 to 12 years for these dilapidated structures to be fixed. Also there is absolute horror to be put upon any poor dog or cat that these people have. Peta should live on an Indian reservation for one week. If they really cared about animals they would be puking after one hour.

Head Start is a big deal here too. Just a bunch of people hanging out to stay warm in the winter and cool in the summer.Kids? Oh yeah that's what this is all about.

43 posted on 02/25/2011 7:51:13 PM PST by liberty or death
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To: BobL

Phonics were/are used in our local Head Start.


44 posted on 02/25/2011 7:52:27 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: maine-iac7
Children need their first few years at home to have time to get a good sense of themselves as an individual, not just one of a group.

There's nothing to prevent them from actually learning before age 5. We exposed my daughter to reading, and she learned to love reading before she started school. She remained several years ahead of her age group all the way through university.

All without the benefit of "Head Start," or any other government indoctrination program.

45 posted on 02/25/2011 7:53:07 PM PST by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: lurk

46 posted on 02/25/2011 7:54:40 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: maine-iac7
And we know how the commies feel about individualism.

It is now called "Collective Salvation" or *snicker* "Restoring the American (Gravy Train) Dream.

47 posted on 02/25/2011 7:56:17 PM PST by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: Graybeard58

Yep. I’m hoping against hope that Wisconsin de-funds 4-year old Kindergarten that our EX-Gov ‘Diamond Jim’ Doyle signed into law as the door was hittin’ him in the @ss on the way OUT last November!

If there’s one person left standing after the relentless mayhem in ‘The People’s Republik of Madistan’ of these past two weeks, they SHOULD be able to connect the dots between Unions, the Democrats, Election Funding and (lack of) Education in this state!

For a State that touts itself as being so much ‘smarter’ than all the others, we’re really failing on all fronts - our kids can’t read or do simple math, and the taxpayers are BLIND to the dollars that have been sucked out of their pockets for DECADES on end by the Unions! Grrrr!

And if not, they’re a Fool’s Fool...or your basic Democrat voter, LOL!


48 posted on 02/25/2011 7:58:37 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: A CA Guy

Good! I have no respect for parent(s) who teach their kids nothing but they’re names.


49 posted on 02/25/2011 7:59:03 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

Or how to use homonyms.


50 posted on 02/25/2011 8:02:03 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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