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NEW YORK PLANS GUN REGISTRATION
boblonsberry.com ^ | 03/03/11 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 03/03/2011 7:04:23 AM PST by shortstop

First they came for our bicycles.

Now they’ve come for our guns.

One day after word leaked of a New York State plan to require license plates and annual fees for bicycles, information has gotten out about pending legislation that would register and attach a fee to every firearm in the state.

Already one of the most anti-gun states in the country, New York’s move would all but nullify the Second Amendment.

At issue is Senate Bill 2994, which is linked in its entirety at the bottom of this column. It would require every gun owner in the state to make a list of their firearms, to include make, description and serial number, and file that list with the county clerk.

Further, gun owners would have to specify where in their homes each of their firearms were stored when not in use.

And there would be a $25 fee charged for each gun – which would have to be renewed annually at a cost of $10 each gun.

Firearms owners would be issued a photo ID listing the guns registered to their name.

If a gun was sold, swapped or stolen, that information would have to be filed with the clerk.

Failure to obey any particular of the proposed law would be a misdemeanor.

Why do they want to do this?

Here’s what a memo from the sponsor says: “Through the use of an annual firearm registration, we are able to have better tracking supervision of the firearms circulating in New York State. There are many firearms that are illegally possessed in New York State but by implementing a constant registry of firearms we can come a step closer to identifying those illegal firearms. Also with this annual registration of firearms, firearm owners are better protected by law if the firearm is stolen or lost and something unfortunately happens with their particular firearm.”

Better tracking supervision of the firearms circulating in New York?

Is it the government’s business to track or supervise the firearms in the state?

Notice that this bill isn’t just about handguns – which are already registered in the state – it is about all guns. That means family heirlooms and hunting guns are also subject to registration, and expensive ownership fees.

Registration is the foreplay of confiscation, and this piece of legislation would put the physical location of every legal gun in the state at the touch of the government’s finger. The government would know who had guns and where they kept them.

And so too, presumably, would anyone who filed a freedom of information request. New York has already held that its pistol permits – which include personal information as well as a list of handguns owned – are public records. This new list of guns and gun owners would also be a public record.

Which means the bad guys have just learned where every gun is. That tells them what houses are unprotected, that tells them what houses they should burglarize.

And with the list of where each gun is stored, it will make burglary all the easier.

This bill is an assault on freedom, a disrespect to the Second Amendment, and a perfect illustration of the burden of oppression New Yorkers suffer under. It is part of the ongoing enshackling of the American people.

It is the insane perspective of big-city liberals, this is a good thing. This is a play to a progressive constituency which is intolerant of any perspective other than its own.

Prospects for passage are uncertain.

New York’s governor is an anti-gun Democrat. New York’s Assembly is controlled by anti-gun Democrats. New York’s Senate is controlled by Republicans. But they have a one-vote margin, and – it being New York – some of them are anti-gun.

So this bill has a fair chance of becoming law.

Which means a test of how much people will take might be coming.

Because this is none of the government’s business. Gun ownership should not be subject to an annual fee. Gun registration is un-American. Carrying around a photo ID to prove you’ve registered your deer gun is offensive.

And many New Yorkers won’t take it.

This may be the one that drives the law-abiding into law-breaking.

Because my guns are none of the government’s business. And where I keep them is none of the government’s business. And I’m not going to pay an annual fee to exercise a constitutional right.


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To: shortstop

“And there would be a $25 fee charged for each gun – which would have to be renewed annually at a cost of $10 each gun.

Firearms owners would be issued a photo ID listing the guns registered to their name.”

No. Period.

Will happen only over my dead body.

Being elected to office does NOT mean that I must stand and salute any damned unconstitutional crap you run up the pole. The utter CONTEMPT held by our “leaders” for the Law is becoming manifest.


41 posted on 03/03/2011 7:50:26 AM PST by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: shortstop
What's next, registering every bullet?

I have an idea, lets ban Crime, hey it works every time it's tried. /s

42 posted on 03/03/2011 7:51:02 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: shortstop
Any public official that is afraid to be surrounded by armed constituents is a public official that the constituents need to be armed against.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

43 posted on 03/03/2011 7:51:48 AM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: shortstop

I ain´t registerin´ no guns. F ´em.


44 posted on 03/03/2011 7:52:10 AM PST by onedoug (If)
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To: andy58-in-nh
NH...

That's why I wouldn't want NH and VT to be annexed by Quebec. As for the rest of New England - no loss.

New York sucks in just so many ways...

It's the people who live there. The little tin tyrants that NY sends to Kongress and their own legisature aren't elected at random. They're elected because they reflect the attitudes of the majority of the voters in their districts. Every time I look at what some retard in NY government does that further limits the freedom of the morons who live there, I see more proof that New Yorkers want to be slaves, that New Yorkers are afraid of freedom, that New Yorkers want to be helpless, etc. New York is a tumor on the body politic.

45 posted on 03/03/2011 7:53:23 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: shortstop
...implementing a constant registry of firearms we can come a step closer to identifying those illegal firearms.

Unbelievably naive. Just plain stupid.

46 posted on 03/03/2011 7:53:47 AM PST by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: CPOSharky

“Reason number 237 why I will not take up my sisters request for me to move back to NY. Sorry anout that sis.”

What an amazing coincidence, its also reason # 237 that I will be moving my high-earning, high tax-paying butt out of NY at the earliest opportunity.


47 posted on 03/03/2011 8:04:35 AM PST by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: from occupied ga

The liberals in this once great state have destroyed it. I seriously doubt that anything utter than government shutdown and a civil war would change anything.

There are so many great things about New York, but the government has infiltrated so much of our lives.

I went to a local gun show a few weeks ago. As I entered the venue, I was asked if I had (my legally registered handgun) on me. Like an idiot, I said yes. They then said I could not enter the venue until it was tagged with an electrical tie to prevent it from being fired.

Yes, it is an offender protected society and the law abiding citizens have their rights taken away.


48 posted on 03/03/2011 8:06:39 AM PST by NoKoolAidforMe (1-20-09--The Beginning of an Error..............1-20-13--Change we can look forward to)
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To: TexasRedeye
implementing a constant registry of firearms we can come a step closer to identifying those illegal firearms

Just plain stupid.

I disagree. If you substitute "firearms not held by government agents" for "illegal firearms" then it makes perfect sense. The people in favor of this want ONLY the police and military armed. In their minds every gun not in the hands of police IS an illegal firearm.

The anti-gunners never rest. They never give up. They cannot be reaoned with. They have no pity on citizens who want to protect their families and property from unorganized and organized thugs. They cannot be compromised with because they never willingingly concede anything. Every restriction they gain is always a "good first step." When their schemes inevitably fail to produce the stated goals, it's always because "We didn't go far enough." This struggle can only end one of three ways.

  1. We are completely enslved by a police state government that will mke the soviet union and nazi germany look benevelent
  2. We who believe in freedom are kill by their beloved police
  3. They and their goons are killed

49 posted on 03/03/2011 8:07:02 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
The liberals in this once great state have destroyed it,

That is exactly my point. The liberals are the vast majority of the inhabitants. NY isn't an anti-self defense sh!thole because of the weather or the topography. It's because of the people who live there.

50 posted on 03/03/2011 8:10:06 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
was asked if I had (my legally registered handgun) on me. Like an idiot, I said yes. They then said I could not enter the venue until it was tagged with an electrical tie to prevent it from being fired.

That's kind of standard for gun shows. Even here in Ga and FL you'll see that.

51 posted on 03/03/2011 8:11:57 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: smokingfrog

The Supreme Court has already decided that issue!

Felons are not obligated to register their firearms, as it is a violation of their 5th amendment rights.

Law abiding citizens of New York should demand the same rights as felons!!!


52 posted on 03/03/2011 8:14:38 AM PST by catman67
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To: Obadiah

“Pffft... patently UnConstitutional.”
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yes, but imagine trying to defend against gun confiscasion once this is in place. Without the Second, you can’t ultimately defend the Second or anything else.

If they got their guns and can easily take yours, then they “don’t need no stinking Constitution.”


53 posted on 03/03/2011 8:25:40 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: shortstop

Be it resolved that:

Every elected and a appointed government official should be fitted with microchip which would transmit the official’s position at all times (both morning and night), and

All financial transactions (including groceries, meals, and coffee) conducted by said official will be fully recorded, and

Each official will be required to work 4 hours per week at a different charity within his district or region until all charities within the region have been visited for work.

Any other thoughts to add?


54 posted on 03/03/2011 8:25:59 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: Portcall24

When they get around to passing such a crap piece of legislation in my state, if they want to enforce it here, bring the front end loaders and dump trucks to haul away those coming to enforce it with me.


55 posted on 03/03/2011 8:34:20 AM PST by Mouton (Government expands to fill any voids in freedom.)
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To: Lazamataz

Okay, Laz—you are excused—LOL!


56 posted on 03/03/2011 8:38:07 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Lazamataz

Okay, Laz—you are excused—LOL!


57 posted on 03/03/2011 8:38:11 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Lazamataz

Laz, As a former Rochesterian like yourself, I can tell you it’s a great place to be from. And I have only been back once in the last ten years and that was for a funeral.


58 posted on 03/03/2011 8:42:27 AM PST by shortstop (Win one for the Gipper.)
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To: shortstop

I pray actual Americans living in New York will IGNORE this thoroughly unconstitutional law.


59 posted on 03/03/2011 8:58:42 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: shortstop

BTT


60 posted on 03/03/2011 9:29:38 AM PST by PoloSec ( Believe how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again for our justification)
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