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Forget Arsenic - Read the ET Life Article NASA didn't seem to hype at all
Journal of Cosmology ^ | March 4, 2011 | Richard B. Hoover, Ph.D

Posted on 03/05/2011 9:50:06 PM PST by Liberty Tree Surgeon

Dr. Hoover has discovered evidence of microfossils similar to Cyanobacteria, in freshly fractured slices of the interior surfaces of the Alais, Ivuna, and Orgueil CI1 carbonaceous meteorites. Based on Field Emission Scanning Electron Microscopy (FESEM) and other measures, Dr. Hoover has concluded they are indigenous to these meteors and are similar to trichomic cyanobacteria and other trichomic prokaryotes such as filamentous sulfur bacteria. He concludes these fossilized bacteria are not Earthly contaminants but are the fossilized remains of living organisms which lived in the parent bodies of these meteors, e.g. comets, moons, and other astral bodies. The implications are that life is everywhere, and that life on Earth may have come from other planets.

(Excerpt) Read more at journalofcosmology.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; exobiology; extraterrestrials
So NASA hypes the story about some folks finding bacteria that can trade arsenic for phosphorus, saying it is a big deal for finding life "not as we know it", but you hear nothing about this guy's team that believes they have found fossilize bacteria in cometary meteorites. Weird.

You can also check out the synapsis on yahoo here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/digitaltrends/nasascientistfindsevidenceofalienlife.

1 posted on 03/05/2011 9:50:10 PM PST by Liberty Tree Surgeon
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To: Quix; Las Vegas Dave

Check this out - build the case, prepare the public, drop the bombshell.


2 posted on 03/05/2011 9:53:37 PM PST by Liberty Tree Surgeon (Mow your own lawn!)
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon

Let the data be widely analyzed first before headlines get out of control. I remain skeptical since the Mars bacteria years ago. I think things will still remain highly inconclusive.


3 posted on 03/05/2011 9:58:36 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

ping


4 posted on 03/05/2011 10:11:12 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon

These meteorites are rare (C11).

They could have been originally from Earth, spewed out into space millions of years ago, and then recently returned to crash into the Earth.

You just never know.


5 posted on 03/05/2011 10:17:19 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post.)
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon
Weird.

NASA is just another federal agency with an agenda. Truth and honesty are not on the menu. Name one federal agency that is working honestly for "we the people." The USDA-FS, we read in a posting near this one, wants to close roads in Utah's Gila National Forest. The epa is a rogue agency, hell-bent on closing down everything that contributes to a descent life. atf and gunwalker.

nasa is just another waste of money that needs to be grubbed out, root, vine and branch.

6 posted on 03/05/2011 10:25:13 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (An election is not a (national) suicide pact.)
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon
I feel a song coming on.

Cf. The End of Science by John Horgan. A great read if nothing else. A must read, IMHO, if you want to understand the decadent state of science today.

7 posted on 03/05/2011 10:31:56 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: UCANSEE2

Earth collisions eons ago could easily have spewed organisms out into space which are extinct now.

What I’d like to see is an explanation of how an organism could actually live on a comet in interstellar space.


8 posted on 03/05/2011 11:20:26 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Maybe they lived on another planet and then got blown into space from an impact.


9 posted on 03/06/2011 1:02:42 AM PST by douginthearmy
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon

Somehow this comng from an islamic feel good agency is a bit much!


10 posted on 03/06/2011 3:21:00 AM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon

Amazing how science can define “life” as being bacteria, etc., and yet has a difficult time defining human life when it comes to a fetus as it directly relates to abortions, huh? /s =.=


11 posted on 03/06/2011 6:04:58 AM PST by cranked
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To: HiTech RedNeck
What I’d like to see is an explanation of how an organism could actually live on a comet in interstellar space.

Especially without cable TV.

12 posted on 03/06/2011 9:02:28 AM PST by nevergiveup (When in Rome, speak Roman.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
What I’d like to see is an explanation of how an organism could actually live on a comet in interstellar space.

I believe the 'explanation' is that a virus or bacteria could live trapped in a pocket of material, nested deep in the comet, or asteroid, or meteor.

Getting through our atmosphere is probably more devastating than a trip through interstellar space.

13 posted on 03/06/2011 9:24:02 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Simple math - (was thinking about this story as I drifted off to sleep last night- you don’t have to call me strange - I know it...)

Suppose that each and every rock in the upper mile of Earth’s crust contains fossil evidence of life, and rocks and magma below that do not. Seems reasonable as a wild, and very generous for ubiquity of life, guess.

Surface(sphere) = 4 x diameter x pi. Proportion of earth contained in that upper 1 mile is Surface(Earth diameter)- Surface(Earth diameter-1mile) divided by Surface(Earth) ... which works out very close to 2/diameter. Since average Earth diameter is 7918 miles, only 0.025% of a random sampling of Earth’s rocks will show life - one in about 4000 rocks. Put another way, we would have to examine 4000 fragments from a broken up Earth to discover evidence of life.

Assuming these meteorites came from an Earth-like planet, the chances that any of the nine examined contained life from that planet is pretty darned small. It is far more likely that such a meteorite contains contamination from Earth.

I hasten to add that this assumes life requires some type of planet near a star to develop - and comets in the Oort/ Kuiper/ etc. belt can not develop life. That would certainly change the proportions drastically. However, I consider the likelihood of cometary life to be vanishingly small.


14 posted on 03/07/2011 5:29:58 AM PST by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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