Posted on 03/09/2011 11:49:39 PM PST by Red Steel
Backers want to turn state into place where officials can ignore U.S. laws
HELENA, Mont. — With each new bill, newly elected lawmakers from the loose-knit, largely conservative anti-tax tea party coalition are offering Montanans a vision of the future.
Their state would be a place where officials can ignore U.S. laws, force FBI agents to get a sheriff's OK before arresting anyone, ban abortions, limit sex education in schools and create armed citizen militias.
It's the tea party world. But not everyone is buying their vision.
Some residents, Democratic Gov. Brian Schweitzer and even some Republican lawmakers say the bills are making Montana into a laughingstock. And, they say, the push to nullify federal laws could be dangerous.
"We are the United States of America," said Schweitzer. "This talk of nullifying is pretty toxic talk. That led to the Civil War."
A tea party lawmaker said raising the specter of a civil war is plain old malarkey.
"Nullification is not about splitting this union apart," freshman Rep. Derek Skees said. "Nullification is just one more way for us to tell the federal government: 'That is not right."
(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...
>> MSNBC: Their state would be a place where officials can ignore U.S. laws, force FBI agents to get a sheriff’s OK before arresting anyone, ban abortions, limit sex education in schools and create armed citizen militias.
That’s a problem?
With PMSNBC.
“Their state would be a place where officials can ignore U.S. laws, force FBI agents to get a sheriff’s OK before arresting anyone, ban abortions, limit sex education in schools and create armed citizen militias.”
And this is a problem because—why, again?
I really don’t see the nullification theory going anywhere...the supremacy of federal law was pretty much settled in 1865.
Amazing that Schweitzer is a Dem..
Well, that's the thing; that which can be settled can be unsettled as well.
It would all depend on how weak the federal government becomes because of fiscal crisis. If they can't afford to enforce their laws, then they are de facto no longer the law.
Actually, it IS that way in Montana, and always has been. Montana has always won in court over it, too.
In their world any conservative move against liberalsim is an unspeakable act.
They freak out when we do nothing to move in either direction, they bich when we are simply moving too slowly in their direction, they are bound to have a cow when we dare move away from their direction.
Their clam that that these acts should humiliate Montana is a testament to how little respect they have for either the principles of self-goverment or the seriousness with-which we take our rights. Principles which they have never respected and rights which they have regularly helped to usurp to the ever more centralized and bureaucratic State.
Let hope our enemy’s do indeed wast valuable time laughing while we prepare to confront and destroy them.
This this shows how far some have strayed from the founding principles of the republic.
Maybe this will be a good warning shot over the bow of the this administration and it’s contempt for the constitution. PMSNBC did manage to report the other side of this discussion and even quoted a TP member of MT Congress;
A tea party lawmaker said raising the specter of a civil war is plain old malarkey. “Nullification is not about splitting this union apart,” freshman Rep. Derek Skees said. “Nullification is just one more way for us to tell the federal government: ‘That is not right.”
For a look into the mind of the lefty loons, see the comments @ PMSNBC.
I agree By all rights the Federal goverment has no business telling States how to run their own roads.
If the Federal Government is going to pay states to build roads then they must pay the states in block grants.
Montana should be allowed to reestablish the “Montanabahn” Someone in America has to do it, and Montana with its large size and relatively small population seems the prefect place.
Think of the Tourism, a place where we can drive across country as fast as we want?
liberal states disregard federal law constantly and there are no complaints.
the most common being the reefer madness in california and the homosexual marriage farce.
I was writing a response to each point. But there is really only one point. MSNBC wants to centralize all power in the Federal Government. Anything that counteracts that is suspect to the folks at MSNBC.
I just have to make one comment, 'armed citizen militias', ah isn't that what the state-run media told us was the National Guard. States already have an organized armed citizen militia. I guess these laws are to revive the unorganized citizen militias. This only makes sense to me.
Yeah, they complain well. Conservatives on the other hand are too damn modest if not fearful of speaking up.
Wow... Montana stands as a shining bastion of hope, if all this is actually true.
And here’s another thing:
NOTHING in the US Constitution gives the Federal government the right to OWN land in a State. This is an encroachment on the sovereignty of each State. At best the Federal government ought to be required to LEASE State property on an ANNUAL basis
What do people think about this idea?
And here’s another thing:
NOTHING in the US Constitution gives the Federal government the right to OWN land in a State. This is an encroachment on the sovereignty of each State. At best the Federal government ought to be required to LEASE State property on an ANNUAL basis
What do people think about this idea?
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