Posted on 03/15/2011 9:27:27 AM PDT by neverdem
A fundamental principle of a free people is the ability to transfer property to someone else without government intervention. In the case of firearms, it is often a tradition to pass on a gun from one generation to another.
Recently a group called Mayors Against Illegal Guns co-chaired by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, commissioned a poll to determine how the public felt about tightening background checks on people that bought guns. It will come as little surprise that a group called Mayors Against Illegal Guns wants additional restrictive legislation on the already restrictive process and they even bought the research that indicates the public agrees.
The target of liberal legislators is the gun show. If you are a licensed gun dealer you hold a Federal Firearms License and are required by law to perform a background check before you can release the gun to the buyer. That makes good sense and often there is a waiting period. A waiting period makes good sense too unless you are someone being threatened or harassed and you happen to need a way to defend yourself. The attacker will be reassured that the government will deny you, the potential victim, an immediate opportunity to purchase a tool to defend yourself. When an attack is going to happen in seconds the police, if called, will respond in minutes to take the crime report.
Here is the controversial aspect of a gun show: the unlicensed seller. This is a person that wants to sell his personal property to another individual. It is the equivalent of you saying Mike, you want to sell that .22? And then me telling you Ill take 50-bucks for it. We have a deal and Im the unlicensed seller. But, I dont need a license to sell you my .22. That is the gun show loophole.
Closing the gun show loophole enables the government to curtail person to person sales. That is what is really behind the attack on gun shows. Every gun would have to be turned into a gun dealer so that it could be tracked by the Federal Government and then the transfer process would be monitored by the Federal Government. The right you have now to sell your neighbor your shotgun will be gone, forever.
What is even more disturbing is the loss of the right to pass on your gun to a family member. The tradition of passing on grandpas gun to his grandson will be legislated out of existence. Gramps will have to pass the gun to a federally authorized entity that will then register it and pass it on to the recipient. Often the gifting of the first firearm is to someone thirteen or fourteen years old. Because they can not legally own a gun at that age it would have to be transferred to someone who would then hold the gun until it could be then transferred to the final owner when legal age is reached. Thats a lot of red tape to give someone your squirrel rifle.
Anti-gun liberals know that more bureaucracy on law abiding citizens is the easiest form of gun control and hidden under the label of common sense gun measures. If the government can make criminals out of people that have never committed a criminal act with administrative measures then people will avoid buying, owning and transferring guns altogether. Then they accomplish what they set out to do; stop legal citizens from owning guns.
New York City has some of the toughest gun laws in the United States but they have not eliminated crimes committed with guns. Why? Because going after gang members is dangerous, expensive and more often than not the criminal ends up back on the street. Mayors Against Illegal Guns should take a closer look at those that are committing the crimes and focus on punishing the perpetrators rather than building a bureaucracy that is targeted at legal gun owners.
I remember when I was a teenager walking down the street with an Ithaca Model 37 pump 12 gauge in the rural Adirondack mountain town where I grew up. I had purchased the gun from a friend and there wasnt any paperwork, background check, state or federal government involved. A police car pulled up next to me and the officer asked Are you coming or going? I get off in a few minutes and if you want to go hunting together hop in and Ill give you a ride. It turns out I was walking home and after I told that to the officer, he just said Ok then, next time and drove off. To me, that officer exercised common sense gun control. An anti-gun liberal would have had me, the gun seller and probably the officer up on federal charges and locked us up for a long time. Its a pity that the left doesnt understand the relationship between gun ownership and crime but it will be a tragedy if we let the Bloomberg lead coalition erode the gun rights of a free people.
I think it’s been a long time since they studied the Constitution and attempted to follow it.
Hear, hear!
Fatal incomprehension.
The target isn't, has never been, criminals. The target is the People and their rights. The People are the Main Enemy of this Marxist strategic campaign.
Those "gotcha" provisions don't work ..... a similar California provision in re assault rifles was held to be unconstitutional by a federal court because it pretended to force assault-rifle owners to give incriminating testimony against themselves. So out it went.
The Framers had very little patience with those kinds of games and went out of their way, as in their narrow definition of treason, to frustrate them. The British used to like to try to drive political behavior with the threat of capital punishment under a doctrine of "constructive treason" -- so the Framers drove a stake through its heart with Article III's narrow definition of treason, to take a notorious tool of compulsion away from future authorities. They did the same with self-incrimination.
>>OR, you automatically become a lawbreaker.
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>Those “gotcha” provisions don’t work .....
Unfortunately we’re we’re creeping up on one “gotcha” which many people tend to laud: the deprivation of the right to keep & carry firearms, and to vote, by those who would best be described as “ex-felons” {those felons who have served their sentences} and [even] straight-up felons themselves.
In 2014 ObamaCare becomes active and makes it a FELONY for someone to not have qualifying insurance; there are, IIUC, no exceptions for the unemployed or those who experience a “break in coverage” due to switching betwixt “qualifying” plans. This in conjunction with the extreme unemployment will have the effect of legally disarming huge sections of the population.
I remember riding down an arterial street in my home town, actually the second largest city in the state, then about 100,000, with several friends. We all had shotguns across the handlebars, some in cases, some not. We were headed out for pheasant hunting. Today we'd all be run in, ladies would a get a case of the vapors at the sight. But then, no problem. This would have been 1965.
Even earlier I used to take my Daisy right through the business district of one of the little towns that been incorporated into the city in the '20s or earlier. I'd often stop at the drug or hardware store for more BB's. I was stopped by a foot patrol officer one time. He asked where I was going to shoot, I said, "My great Uncles place just across the highway". He said, "OK, be careful", and that was that. I never shot my eye out, so I guess I was careful enough
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Well, I did manage to implant a BB in my older cousin's temple. It bounced off a tree when I tried to shoot a twig. I was in the back seat of a '53 Pontiac, he was in the front. (too muddy to go mucking around on our grandparents farm that day). A little lesson in knowing what is beyond your target. But he never ratted on me. Heck it didn't break the skin. :)
I never knew my High School had one, or had in the past, until well after I and my brother had graduated. My dad was a grad of the school's first year of operation ('42) , and he told me it did. It was tucked rather out of the way though.
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