Posted on 03/17/2011 6:45:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The House leaders have 1/2 of 1 of 2 elected branches of Govt, or about a quarter of the cards. Holding a quarter of the cards means we cant get our way, but have to maximize our leverage with what we got.
How to maximize? Have some votes that show where we stand and use them to push for best compromise and get the most of what we can. We wont get all of what we want but if we get 50%, we are doing OK. The boehner/Cantor strategy is doing OK so far, and you can tell by the fact that complainers complain but rarely have a better idea/plan.
So ... You tell US:
- You want them to defund NPR/PBS or not? They held the vote, they won the vote. Bully for Boehner and Cantor for that. That is ALL they can do in the House.
- You want them to actually PASS things into law, then all they can get past Obama’s desk is watered down stuff. You want that or not?
If you want the watered down stuff, you get $4 billion in cuts in a 3 week CR. You want it or do you want nothing?
If not, what’s YOUR brilliant plan to actually get Obama to sign something better?
Anybody?
Exactly,they could have Defunded and Killed it,instead they created a Bumper sticker that means Nothing and will be Killed By the Senate. Boner and Cantor are Frauds
Excellent and spot on. They share conservatism, but the comparisons end there.
by god I guess she DID.......
“If not, what’s YOUR brilliant plan to actually get Obama to sign something better?”
To make the suggestion that what Boner and Can’t-or ought to be doing is to agree to get Obama’s signature is such a farcical notion it could only be uttered by a RINO, and you’re probably someone working with this leadership. Or at least you support their efforts. Obama couldn’t care less about the Republicans, or what they want or what they think they can get him to sign. If he did he would’t have proposed a monstrous, onerous, almost laughably stupid $3.7 TRILLION Budget for them to pass. A budget his own Treasury Secretary said to the Senate will bankrupt the nation. To think Obama can do that with anything other than contempt for his opposition is to be someone who thinks he really has “Economic Growth” as a policy agenda. Obama, if anything, has shown he’s to be stopped, not appeased or negotiated with. And it’s clear Boner and Can’t-or (who’s the real culprit behind the attacks on House Conservatives) have no stomach, spine or fortitude for such a fight. They want to appease - that much is clear. And just so you know, this piecemeal crap of weeks-old CR’s in the Senate is about to come to an end. A Cadre of Republicans there have already said “enough already”, and will not support another one. The House Leadership can shut down the government to their benefit: most people think it’s going in the wrong direction anyway. Obama doesn’t have the glow of uniting people to him anymore. Boner and Can’t-or have fears that are equivalent to the bogeyman in the closet: they’re WAY overblown.
You institute the defunding of ObamaCare into the CR and make the Senate Democrats vote it down to save it, so the government shuts down. At this point the government shutting down is THE best option we have. But Speaker Bonehead has already declared he’s not doing that, even though the vast majority of those who made his Speakership possible - the voters - are fine with doing it. ObamaCare was such a huge disaster for Democrats in November it’s time to make them accountable for it again. Make them preserve a program that’s been declared unconstitutional en toto; has been fraudulently funded by a stealth appropriation of money; and is so unpopular that “Friends of Barack” are piling up waivers daily (over 1,000 and counting) to remain solvent as organizations. Make the Democrats in the Senate - 21 of whom are up for reelection in 18 months - defend ObamaCare by shutting the government down. Make them defend the very program that cost them “1/2” of the legislature. Then watch Republicans win the other half in a walkover.
Unless of course, Boner and Can’t-or - the same Can’t-or who flaunts his Gucci shoes - really see themselves as CEO and COO of House of Rep Inc,. and part of their “corporate perks” is to get their hands on that ObamaCare appropriated “stash” and redirect it. You know, in keeping with that Rove-Bush philosophy pf Progressive Republicanism. It’s the Rove Doctrine that says the issue really isn’t whether government spends too much, the REAL issue is to make sure anyone with an (R) next to their name on a ballot gets elected so we can have a lot of (R)’s sitting on Committee Chairs, doling out that taxpayer funded largesse to THEIR Republican Blue Blood folks.
Best of luck to Boner and Can’t-or with that.
Therefore...? Astonishing. Reagan had no contemporary such as Goldwater? Let’s assume you are right and have thought out your response, does it follow that Reagan would have no legacy, because he had no legacy? Now, let’s assume that you are wrong and have merely offered reactionary drivel... ding! ding! ding! We have a winner.
While his PDS was over the top and had become obsessive and that comment that got him banned was reprehensible, I hope pissant eventually gets restored to FR.
I liked him before his PDS took on demonic-possession-like characteristics.
I would think they would be blaming the kid with the sting video (and caused the firings at the top of NPR), more than Sarah. I guess they hate Sarah so much that they would glaze over real reasons for the demise of government teat for NPR.
“Reagan had no contemporary such as Goldwater?”
Reagan went far beyond what Goldwater. Comparing to Goldwater only diminishes Reagan. The point is, Reagan WAS Reagan, a unique and capable conservative leader, so that you didnt HAVE to compare him to anyone else. Reagan earned his greatness through what he said and did, not via comparisons with the glow of prior greats.
“Let’s assume you are right and have thought out your response”
I have, for years. For years we have heard this twaddle of ‘the next Reagan’... its a pipe dream. We keep looking for the next Reagan, but miss the brilliance of conservatives among us, .. as if the newt 1994 Congress wasnt already a reaganite Congress. As if conservatives arent already using Reagan as the touchstone in debate after debate, as if folks like Mike Pence arent already exemplars of such policies. As if sites like Redstate or this one dont already keep the flame of conservative values embodied by him.
There will not be another Reagan, that wont be possible, but that’s okay, because WE the conservative base of the GOP are ALL “Reagan Republicans” THAT IS THE LEGACY OF REAGAN.
“Reagan does it follow that Reagan would have no legacy, because he had no legacy?”
Reagan’s legacy does not require another politician to come along and be the ‘next’ one of him. His legacy is already an enduring one and a strong economy for a generation is a good enough testament.
That’s the way he would want it to be, and if you read Michael Reagan on the topic you’ll get that as well.
“reactionary drivel” - that’s what liberals called Reagan’s speeches... yes, I think my perspective here is ... Reaganesque.
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