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I don't support the war in Lybia (Vanity)..
JSDude1 | 3/22/11 | J.J.S.

Posted on 03/22/2011 5:21:03 AM PDT by JSDude1

It's not that I don't support the US military, because I do FULLY, and wish our forces in harms way (whether led by a fool or not) a safe return home.

With that being said: I DO NOT support the War in Libya.

HERE'S Why:

1st we do not know our allies (or if they even are our allies..do we really know the "rebels"? What they stand for..If they are Islamists, or Western 'democrats'?? Can we controll who takes over should Quadaffi step down?

2ndly: What is our national interest in Libya? I suggest we really have no strategic (foreign policy) reason to be in Libya. We get virtually all our oil somewhere else, we do not know who's side the rebels will be on (but I can predict) in real politic terms if they come out on top, and as sad as a humanitarian tragedy war is- it really wasn't our fight to get involved with Quadaffi vs. his people.

3rd, WHAT IS OUR OBJECTIVE?? It started out as a humanitarian effort to end the slaughter of civllians, aka (to bring Quadaffi to just stop indescriminate bombing, and possbily at the most to bring him to the 'negotiating table'..), and now I hear Obama "Quadaffi 'Must Go')? Do we really have a goal, and should we really be there to ensure "Quadaffi must go"??

DO WE HAVE AN 'EXIT STRATEGY'

Fourth: Where was the Federal Constitutional authority for President Obama to direct us in another war..? No less under the authority of the U.N.

Fifthly, I will not ~give~ Obama cover to start a new war even if it does evict feelings of 'Patriotism'. I am against this for these reasons.

Please, even though Quadaffi is a bad guy, and should go, I don't think we need (or shoudld) send military force to contront him at this time!

J.S.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: democrats; foreignpolicy; libya; obama; vanity
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LET'S TAKE AN "UNSCIENTIFIC POLL" AND SEE HOW (OF MY PEERS/FRIENDS) FREEPERS AGREE WITH ME..or DISAGREE!?
1 posted on 03/22/2011 5:21:05 AM PDT by JSDude1
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To: JSDude1

I support your right to your beliefs. Do you oppose the war due to policy or due to its leadership?


2 posted on 03/22/2011 5:22:15 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Both.


3 posted on 03/22/2011 5:25:10 AM PDT by JSDude1 (December 18, 2010 the Day the radical homosexual left declared WAR on the US Military.)
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I am against it because at least in Iraq and Afghanistan we are in there setting the table, and even then it is shaky.

What can we expect from Libya?

Nothing good I think.

4 posted on 03/22/2011 5:25:27 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: JSDude1

Of course, Iraq and Afghanistan both fail by the same criteria.


5 posted on 03/22/2011 5:27:26 AM PDT by Huck (Fools make feasts and wise men eat them - Poor Richard)
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To: JSDude1

I do not support the war in Libya for the reasons you stated and also I have no confidence in this administration because of its abysmal track record on just about every issue and policy.


6 posted on 03/22/2011 5:27:58 AM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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I’m way past having to state all the obvious things you stated. Time for impeachment hearings.


7 posted on 03/22/2011 5:28:20 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Huck

I have kind of turned against Afghanistan (our mission), because there is nothing strategic there for us to hold.

However we WERE winning in Iraq when Bush left office.


8 posted on 03/22/2011 5:29:17 AM PDT by JSDude1 (December 18, 2010 the Day the radical homosexual left declared WAR on the US Military.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

against this as we’re fighting two wars, spending more money in an area which does not threaten us and have no clue what the clear end game is or what exactly are we doing there.

This has been a big screw up and if anyone supports this then they need their head testing IMHO.

I suppose the anti war crowd will be out fuming, oh wait they’re now quiet about wars, the media are spinning this and we go to war with out congress having to vote on this.
Still Michelle is having a whale of a time on her vacation.


9 posted on 03/22/2011 5:29:40 AM PDT by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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I question the reason for the statement. By my standards there is no war.

There are some very limited and onetime military actions. There is no sustained action and there is little danger of an enemy shooting back.

A plane was lost, we don’t know why, but possibly, just old and worn out.

Clinton fired missiles into Afghanistan. Was that a war? Wasn’t it wagging the dog?


10 posted on 03/22/2011 5:29:44 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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I agree with you. And just how many cilvians have been slaughtered? There are probably more being slaughtered in Iraq and Afghanistan by suicide bombers than in Libya.


11 posted on 03/22/2011 5:29:58 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: plain talk

You bet. I am calling my Congressman today and start calling for the removal of this usurper.


12 posted on 03/22/2011 5:30:03 AM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: JSDude1

Don’t forget the old “I support the troops but not the war” or maybe you could use “Support the troops by bringing them home”. Those were popular on bumper stickers a few years back.


13 posted on 03/22/2011 5:30:36 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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I support the bombing of Libya for ONE reason: Kill Qaḏḏāfī because of the bombing of Pan-Am 103 back in the 80's. This should have been done a long time ago. Once he's dead,let the UN do it's 'thing'. JMO...
14 posted on 03/22/2011 5:30:36 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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I support the bombing of Libya for ONE reason:

Kill Qaddafi because of the bombing of Pan-Am 103 back in the 80’s. This should have been done a long time ago.

Once he’s dead,let the UN do it’s ‘thing’.

JMO...


15 posted on 03/22/2011 5:30:58 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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We have NO defined MISSION in Libya. PLUS, we have a community organizer playing at CIC.

No WAY NO how.

My Against is for the whole region. We will be “wrong” no matter how these 3 Wars turn out.

Leave the Islamist to kill each other.


16 posted on 03/22/2011 5:31:20 AM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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The very idea of a new military involvement, started and carried out by the doofus obama and his pathetic choices for an administration, scares me to death. This has great potential to go very badly.


17 posted on 03/22/2011 5:34:38 AM PDT by ZX12R
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AGAINST
we have no business being there.
We have no clear end game.
We are still fighting two wars and now 3.
we have no clue who these rebels are really.
this is without congress saying it is OK.
Miscommunication between allies.

WTH are we doing there spending money and risking lives?

How anyone supports this is beyond me , seems like a massive rush job to to do something because the media played the humanitarian card again like in Kosovo.

Iraq was a national interest threat which went on for years.
Afghanistan had a brutal regime and let Bin Laden stay there.
Many were opposed but now they are for Libya and were for Kosovo.
WTH

Both do not affect us in our national security, small regime where two years ago he was handing in weapons under Bush and now it;’s all gone to crap because cowboy is on vacation asking the UN for permission, ignoring congress and his own words but old whale fat arse still stays on her vacation while the world is in turmoil


18 posted on 03/22/2011 5:35:37 AM PDT by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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This is not a “war” yet. It is an “action”.

The case being whatever it may be, I am with you. We have no interest putting our people in harms way over a bunch of crap eaters engaged in the usual African population control/asset distribution mechanism.

We are there because our English and French “allies” are scared $hitless that the Chicoms will move in and cut a deal to rebuild oil distribution and take “their” oil.

We have no interest in securing the oil for Europa, just returning favor to China in kind.

This is not about oil however... It is a “humanitarian” thing.

19 posted on 03/22/2011 5:36:30 AM PDT by mmercier (the eyes of disarray)
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To: AppyPappy

or another for the socialists ,obama lied people died
war mongerer or even end this endless war

No doubt the anti war left wing smelly layabouts will be shouting this now


20 posted on 03/22/2011 5:37:02 AM PDT by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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