Posted on 03/22/2011 5:21:03 AM PDT by JSDude1
It's not that I don't support the US military, because I do FULLY, and wish our forces in harms way (whether led by a fool or not) a safe return home.
With that being said: I DO NOT support the War in Libya.
HERE'S Why:
1st we do not know our allies (or if they even are our allies..do we really know the "rebels"? What they stand for..If they are Islamists, or Western 'democrats'?? Can we controll who takes over should Quadaffi step down?
2ndly: What is our national interest in Libya? I suggest we really have no strategic (foreign policy) reason to be in Libya. We get virtually all our oil somewhere else, we do not know who's side the rebels will be on (but I can predict) in real politic terms if they come out on top, and as sad as a humanitarian tragedy war is- it really wasn't our fight to get involved with Quadaffi vs. his people.
3rd, WHAT IS OUR OBJECTIVE?? It started out as a humanitarian effort to end the slaughter of civllians, aka (to bring Quadaffi to just stop indescriminate bombing, and possbily at the most to bring him to the 'negotiating table'..), and now I hear Obama "Quadaffi 'Must Go')? Do we really have a goal, and should we really be there to ensure "Quadaffi must go"??
DO WE HAVE AN 'EXIT STRATEGY'
Fourth: Where was the Federal Constitutional authority for President Obama to direct us in another war..? No less under the authority of the U.N.
Fifthly, I will not ~give~ Obama cover to start a new war even if it does evict feelings of 'Patriotism'. I am against this for these reasons.
Please, even though Quadaffi is a bad guy, and should go, I don't think we need (or shoudld) send military force to contront him at this time!
J.S.
Before we stepped in, it was radical muslims killing other radical muslims. My question is what’s the down side? So we should not be committing an act of against another nation unless attacked. And 30 years ago doesn’t count.
so you support this bombing because we should go after nutjob , only one problem we’re not going after him.
therefore how can anyone support this?
One bomb after the CIA target him but this crap what we’re doing is plain stupid.
No end game,
not going after him.
Have no clue who these rebels are.
Already fighting two wars, now three.
WTH are we doing there if we’re not killing him then
anyone supporting this is watching the media too much, they’;re spinning this like it;s the greatest thing obama has ever done
I support the war in Libya because of the following reasons:
1. He killed Americans by blowing up airplanes.
2. He has trained terrorists.
3. He has defied us in the past.
4. He has proven himself to be an awful tyrant.
Now that the war is on—we must kill him or if he stays in power he will have his henchmen blow more Americans out of the sky in revenge as he has in the past.
BUT: I say no to Nation Building—we Kill him and his sons and pull out—Let the Libyans solve this problem. They may be worse (that would be hard) but let them build their own nation. Let the French take a lead—I am fine with that as long as we get rid of the grim clown.
We have a war going on in Lybia????? Dang! First Libya and now Lybia!!! What a week! (just joking, but this half awake brain couldn’t resist).
Actually, I agree with you 100%. Add to this the Power Vacuum it will create. Libya has been a fairly stable country since the time of Ronaldus Magnus. Why don’t we just contribute to world instability by stirring up more trouble than there already is in that country.
I’m with you... I do not support this or any war that is started or “managed” by the F’ing marxists in the fedgov.
I support getting our troops out from under the thumb of marxists so they do not have to die for an evil cause. I would even support our troops if they turned their weapons against those very same marxists.
There are other countries that fit the reasons you give. Where do you stop?
. I am against this war because Obama violated both the Constitution and the 1973 War Powers Act when he started it. Obama has assumed the role of Military Dictator and for this he should be impeached.
Obama himself said in 2007 in a now infamous speech that Presidents do not have the Constitutional authority to do what he did. And to start this war while he was on vacation in a foreign country just makes my blood boil.
(1) The rebels have publicly stated that what they stand for is the restoration of Libya's 1952 constitution, which guarantees a parliamentary democracy. They are not calling for an Islamic dictatorship.
(2) Our national interest in Libya is that (a) Qadaffi has long been a sponsor of anti-US terrorism and could well be again when it suits him; (b) Libya is strategic because of its geography and resources and if the US does not avail itself of this strategic advantage, others will.
(3) Our objective is to help the supporters of the restoration of a constitutional government in Libya and to degrade the military capabilities of their opponents. "Exit strategy" is a buzzword for defeatists, or for fools who think that they can predict the future.
(4) The Constitution gives the executive and Senate treaty power. Our participation in the UN is in accordance with a ratified treaty. The treaty authorizes the President as Commander In Chief to act in accordance with that treaty, enforcing UN resolutions.
(5) If one's standard of morality is: "whatever Obama does is wrong and whatever is the opposite of what Obama is doing is right" then one is completely morally bankrupt. There is an absolute right and there is an absolute wrong. If President Obama, through whim or circumstance or conviction, happens to do the objectively right thing, then the only rational response is to say: "In this particular instance he is right."
Making Obama the central guidng factor of one's political or moral compass is ridiculous.
We are there because our English and French “allies” are scared $hitless that the Chicoms will move in and cut a deal to rebuild oil distribution and take “their” oil.
We have no interest in securing the oil for Europa
Fine... let’s get rid of their tyrants and ours at the same time...
Why should our tyrants get to continue to exist while others do not? I’m for consistency... let’s get rid of all the tyrants! So if bombing Libya’s is fine then getting rid of all of our Marxist tyrants in the same manner is equally fine.
Iran is doing this worse and is a much bigger threat to world peace. This Libya fiasco is pure political Kabuki theatre. Besides I read yesterday where George Soros sold nearly all his Mideastern oil stocks and started purchasing heavily in Brazil. Where has Obuggery been and what has he been doing this week?
Ayup, if the rebels win there’ll certainly be a thriving and vigorous multi-party democracy in Libya, the first ever in an Arab country. I can hardly wait.
———We are there because our English and French “allies” -——
Asked us.
We have asked the Brits to help us and they respond. This time is our time to be asked.
China? perhaps. That has not been revealed. It is possible that factions in Libya are upsetting the status quo.
My thought (and you are about the only one here that is close to what I think) is that something happened after it all began and initial plans/negotiations by the Euros fell through and that change necessitated military action.
My conclusion is we simply don’t know what happened or what is happening. It is secret.
I agree on all counts.
You betcha.
Both disasters, Ghani less so only because of limited commitment - although, the option of walking over the bridge to Termez not being available, the end could be a real mess.
Winning what, exactly?
Maybe sarkozy did catch gadaffi doing his wife? ;-)
20 year military vet here, and I agree with you
I cannot in history remember a time the Chairman of the JCS held a briefing within the fist 24 hours of a war and told the world he wasn’t sure how it was going to end
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