Posted on 03/30/2011 12:49:22 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
Springs man's claim to have Obama records starts buzz
A Colorado Springs “birther,” retired Air Force Col. Gregory Hollister, has Internet blogs abuzz with what may be an illegal foray into an online Social Security data base and how he obtained a copy of President Barack Obama’s draft registration from 1980.
“Col. Greg Hollister, USAF (Ret.) contacted the Selective Service, falsely impersonated President Obama, improperly registered his own address as President Obama’s address, and by this false impersonation and identity theft he managed to obtain a duplicate registration acknowledgement card with President Obama’s Selective Service information on it,” a blogger posted on gratewire.com last week. “This may violate several federal criminal statutes, and apparently caused the federal record of President Obama’s address with the Selective Service to be altered to show that he lives in Colorado Springs, CO.”
(Excerpt) Read more at gazette.com ...
“There was no draft in the 1980’s”
Interesting. I looked up Selective Service on Wikipedia and found this. Note it says EVEN foreign nationals must sign up. Surprised me.
Who must registerUnder current law, all male U.S. citizens are required to register with Selective Service within 30 days of their 18th birthday. In addition, foreign males between the ages of 18 and 25 living in the United States must register. This includes permanent residents (holders of Green Cards), refugees, asylees, dual citizens, and illegal aliens.[2] Foreign males in the United States as lawful non-immigrants (international students, visitors, diplomats, etc.) are not required to register.[2] Failure to register as required is grounds for denying a petition for US citizenship. Currently, Citizens who are 17 and 3 months old can pre-register so when they turn 18 their information will automatically be added into the system.
Hey, folks: SSANs reflect where the person was when the number was issued, not where he was born. This is weak.
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Right, but when did Barry ever have a Connecticut address?
Yes there was selective service registration requirement.
There has been selective service registration since we went to the all volunteer military in the early 70’s.
. . . . . See graphic at # 143.
Connecticut Social Security Number, beginning with 042.
Thanks, Brown Deer.
And there is NO NAME under the soc sec number. The number was not issued.
Maybe one of Obama’s SS numbers have his name I don’t know.
But how in the hell is he President?
And NO ONE at the SS office was suspicious? None of them know who or where Obama lives?
In this age of computers, the entire process very well could have been done without any human intervention.
The guy makes a request on an internet form.
A computer checks the request.
A computer program, because it has poor safeguards built in, OK’s the request.
A machine (controlled by a computer) prints the data, envelopes the date, add mails out the data.
No human intervention required at all.
Yes, his middle name was HUSSEIN! Of further interest is that the 'Omar' to whom Auma refers in 'Dreams' as the relative who went to the US and 'was lost' - WAS FOUND - and is still listed by zabasearch with a Boston Address, his name = OBAMA ONYANGO.
OBAMA ONYNAGO was found at the same time the illegal ZEITINU OBAMA was discovered. Just how long he had been in the US is apparently not known.
Do you recall the interview 'the son of a kenyan-goat-herder' gave in June, 1962 in which he stated he had NOT BEEN BACK TO KENYA FOR SEVEN YEARS?:
See second last paragraph.
NO SURPRISE THEN A SEARCH THROWS UP OBAMA AT A MAS. ADDRESS, RIGHT?
Okay, I'll bite. What records list one beyond 045-26-8722, and where does it say he died in CA?
[...] issued in CT in and around March 1977 to an elderly individual named John Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, who is presumed dead and whose death was either never reported to the SS administration or reported and deleted from the database by someone.
Where's the evidence that # was issued to a Jean/John Paul Ludwig?
And if he did...does that mean he had to be naturalized, so isn't natural-born?
Reminds me...of what Sven Magnussen was trying to tell us. If Sven isn't around, I'll check his past comments and get back to you.
Walter walter walter, you are new here and so yes, you are on “probation,” as it were. So don’t take it too much to heart about the troll accusations. Unless of course they’re true.
But assuming they’re not, and you are as you represent yourself to be, a conservative, surely you recognize the dilemma presented by the current situation. I have likened it to having a computer virus. The sinister left (redundant, I know) has found a hack by which they can impose a constitutionally unqualified pretender who would significantly expand their power over the American people.
But now that we have the virus, what do we do to rid ourselves of it? The Law of the System is predicated on the proper functioning of that system. When the System becomes so corrupted it no longer functions, what then? When laws fail to bind the conscience for lack of moral authority in the law giver, and the laws are then selectively enforced, and often by brute force, because they lack the moral power that comes from the “consent of the governed,” the system devolves to tyranny is, and tyrannies always foster rebellion, because people instinctively know, without a written law, that they do have a right to their liberty, and that they have a right to acts that preserves their liberty, which in this case is knowledge sufficient to topple an illegal American dictatorship.
Now, lest it strike you as “unconservative” that some here are celebrating the breaking of laws, consider the position of that founding father of American law, Blackstone, who distinguished between laws that inherently hinged on moral truth, and laws that were, in themselves, arbitrary, if disconnected from the moral truth that spawned them.
For example, we would hold it generally wrong to kill an innocent person, whether there was a law against murder or not, but a law to restrict road speeds to 55 mph in one state and 70 in another do not directly concern moral truth, and may, under the right circumstances, be broken, if the higher law of saving a life could be met by breaking a lesser law.
Here, in this situation, we are talking about saving the life of an entire nation. We do not know who this person in the White House is. We do not know how deeply into trouble he plans to drive us. He represents an existential threat to us all, and for us to treat him with kid gloves would be immoral in itself, a grave disservice to our friends, our families, and our country.
Having said that, I appreciate your angst, because as a Christian, I am under an additional obligation to obey every ordinance of man, as Paul says. However, the ordinances do not stand each one alone in isolation from the other laws. The Constitution is our highest law, and our first devotion is to protect and preserve that Constitution so that we may pass on its benefits to our children and grandchildren after us. And some of us, myself included, have taken an oath to that effect, and are not permitted to consider failure or acquiescence to tyranny an option.
What choice then does a man like Hollister have? He has taken that oath, he has seen what he believes to be his duty, and he has done it, and in a manner calculated to conform as closely as possible to the law while still accomplishing the mission. For as much detail as we presently have, I believe he has done what he and most of us here could do with losing a single moment of sleep, for the greater love and higher law he has obeyed, and is to be commended for it.
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