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"We've Become a Nation of Takers, Not Makers"
The Wall Stree Journal online ^ | April 1, 2011 | Stephen Moore

Posted on 04/02/2011 5:25:31 AM PDT by sueuprising

If you want to understand better why so many states—from New York to Wisconsin to California—are teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, consider this depressing statistic: Today in America there are nearly twice as many people working for the government (22.5 million) than in all of manufacturing (11.5 million). This is an almost exact reversal of the situation in 1960, when there were 15 million workers in manufacturing and 8.7 million collecting a paycheck from the government. It gets worse.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: governmentjobs; manufacturing
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I think this is one of the most poignant articles I have read regarding the state of American society today.
1 posted on 04/02/2011 5:25:33 AM PDT by sueuprising
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To: sueuprising

We are so screwed....


2 posted on 04/02/2011 5:27:56 AM PDT by Jerrybob
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To: sueuprising

Already posted:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2698176/posts


3 posted on 04/02/2011 5:28:11 AM PDT by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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More like a nation of Free Traders...not Makers

We had a lot more manufacturing jobs than government jobs years ago. No one wants to hold the Free Trade Communists responsible

Dump Free Trade Communism....and there will be more manufacturing and less government jobs...and less people on the government troth


4 posted on 04/02/2011 5:30:31 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (No, supporting Communist China is not a "conservative idea".)
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To: sueuprising

The guy sitting in for Rush yesterday made an interesting point: What was best in America was done by people with an 8th grade education. Relax, it’s anecdotal. And largely true.


5 posted on 04/02/2011 5:35:57 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (You is what you am.)
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To: humblegunner

I did not see it on the forum, that is why I posted it. Sorry


6 posted on 04/02/2011 5:37:20 AM PDT by sueuprising (The best of it is, God is with us-John Wesley)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
There is no linkage ~ what you have is a situation where manufacturing has caught up with the US Postal Service when it comes to productivity improvement.

Today USPS handles 6 to 7 times the mail volume it did 40 years ago, and does so with fewer employees.

Manufacturing didn't enter that stage of development until about 20 years ago.

Those jobs aren't coming back no matter how you manipulate tariffs.

7 posted on 04/02/2011 5:41:55 AM PDT by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Amercans)
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To: humblegunner

Well, yeah, but YESTERDAY


8 posted on 04/02/2011 5:43:21 AM PDT by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Amercans)
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To: Jerrybob
We are so screwed....

...not as screwed as your children and grandchildren...

9 posted on 04/02/2011 5:50:43 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

So you want me to have to buy from Union made Detroit auto companies rather than a Japanese company who assembles their product in Alabama, or a German auto company building cars in South Carolina?

What happened to the idea of America competing with the world by making the BEST products in the world? Get the EPA and all the other Federal alphabet agencies in the business of HELPING rather than HINDERING and we can compete, IF WE CHOOSE, with anyone.


10 posted on 04/02/2011 6:12:46 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("All it takes for Evil to triumph is for good MEN to do nothing." Edmund Burke)
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To: sueuprising

Where are the jobs for “the makers”? Many were sent overseas

If this WSJ poobah wants more makers then throw up 50% tariffs so we make more here and import less. Put tariffs on foreign oil and set loose the drillers in America. This poobah is just speaking in theory. The reason why so many people want to get a Gov’t job is the private sector gets worse every year. Also get rid off EPA and OSHA oppression that keeps hurting “the makers” of America so they get their things manufactured in China/Asia


11 posted on 04/02/2011 6:22:27 AM PDT by dennisw ( The early bird catches the worm)
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To: sueuprising

bookmark.


12 posted on 04/02/2011 6:32:11 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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If you want more things manufactured here you don’t have to raise tariffs, you need to lower costs.
Lowering costs can mean using non union labor to keep labor costs low. It can mean cutting corporate taxes, it can mean fewer rules and regulations.
There are a lot of ways to bring jobs back that don’t include tariffs.
They are really pretty simple as most things that actually work are.


13 posted on 04/02/2011 6:37:09 AM PDT by Willie681
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To: dennisw

If you want more things manufactured here you don’t have to raise tariffs, you need to lower costs.
Lowering costs can mean using non union labor to keep labor costs low. It can mean cutting corporate taxes, it can mean fewer rules and regulations.
There are a lot of ways to bring jobs back that don’t include tariffs.
They are really pretty simple as most things that actually work are.


14 posted on 04/02/2011 6:37:19 AM PDT by Willie681
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To: Willie681
This usually means the end of most great countries.
15 posted on 04/02/2011 6:44:05 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Steven Moore of the WSJ is an idiot. You prune the public payrolls and get them working real 8 hour work days.... Then what happens to all these fired people? The private sector is dead in the water. There is no real estate bubble to glom onto.

OK so you get rid of a few million public sector workers. How exactly does this revive the private sector? What are the job growth areas? Fast food? That is all a lot of public sector drones are good for. One example is public school teachers jacking up their salaries by getting oodles of easy to acquire educational credentials....That won’t get you a job in the private sector

The first step is to revive manufacturing here and ramp up domestic energy production. This translates into jobs. You slap tariffs on foreign energy and Chinese junk. You vastly cut back EPA OSHA and other Federal agencies that hurt manufacturing, energy production and small businesses in general. EPA is keeping new coal fired electricity from being built. You start (the Feds) doling out incentives for CNG to be used in transportation


16 posted on 04/02/2011 6:45:46 AM PDT by dennisw ( The early bird catches the worm)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
No one wants to hold the Free Trade Communists responsible

What nonsense. You want the government to tell us whom we are allowed to do business with and you call us the communists. That's just stupid name-calling without a shred of an argument behind it.

17 posted on 04/02/2011 6:54:51 AM PDT by BfloGuy
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To: Willie681

Stop being allergic to tariffs. all these other nations use them on us.... all your other stuff is fine though. Not liking tariffs is phony baloney unthinking free market garbage. Your solutions are part libertarian pie in the sky.

One thing I get a kick out of is seeing freepers wanting to bust down private sector unionized workers. As if freepers are kings and peons should slave away for peanuts

The wage differential between China and America is too large. You need tarffis to narrow the gap. Without tariffs your other ideas will not result in a revival of manufacturing in America. Germany does very well in manufacturing and export. They always run a trade surplus. We should copy some of their ideas


18 posted on 04/02/2011 6:54:55 AM PDT by dennisw ( The early bird catches the worm)
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To: dennisw

In our world of global supply of all goods, a tariff is actually a tax on American consumers. As good conservatives we eschew higher taxes and the downgrading of our living standard.

That is exactly what you espouse. Higher taxes, thus bigger government thus lower standard of living


19 posted on 04/02/2011 6:59:59 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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20 posted on 04/02/2011 7:01:11 AM PDT by Roccus
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