Posted on 04/09/2011 4:52:18 AM PDT by library user
Imagine it's 2012 or 2013 and it's proven 100% that O is not a NBC.
Any retroactive ramifications from this?
Sorry if a stupid question.
Just wondering what others are thinking.
Everything he did will be not valid.
And the deaths in Libya, a war started by a president that was not legit in my opinion would be the Mother Of All War Crimes committed by a US “President”.
Just before he is executed, he will whine that American fat cats who maliciously tried him on Trumped up charges are all racists.
With any luck they can all be deleted.
I don't know what the criminal consequences would be for what he's doing (assuming that him not being eligible is true)
So all bills, judges and laws with his signature would be legal?
Is The Donald just fooling around w/the birth certificate on the ‘bam or is he serious??
I think he is serious about the BC and from what I read last night out of Canada referring to Obama... he may be picking some info up that could be damaging to Obama.
Read this... excellent read and explains a lot
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/35298
Yes, all “legal”. The President signed it legit; even though the pResident was and is a fraud. Chaos would reign otherwise. OTOH, going forward, another good argument for repeal of every instance of leftist drivel passed, along with all the other arguments proving it needs overturning, is that it was signed by a fraud.
Re “Donald Trump Gets Weirder,” by Gail Collins (column, April 2):
Even before Gail Collins was with the New York Times, she has written nasty and derogatory articles about me. Actually, I have great respect for Ms. Collins in that she has survived so long with so little talent. Her storytelling ability and word usage (coming from me, who has written many bestsellers), is not at a very high level. More importantly, her facts are wrong!
As far as her comments on the so-called “birther” issue, I don't need Ms. Collins's advice. There is a very large segment of our society who believe that Barack Obama, indeed, was not born in the United States. His grandmother from Kenya stated, on tape, that he was born in Kenya and she was there to watch the birth. His family in Honolulu is fighting over which hospital in Hawaii he was born in-they just don't know.
He has not been able to produce a “birth certificate” but merely a totally unsigned “certificate of live birth”-which is totally different and of very little significance. Unlike a birth certificate, a certificate of live birth is very easy to obtain. Equally of importance, there are no records in Hawaii that a Barack Hussein Obama was born there-no bills, no doctors names, no nurses names, no registrations, no payments, etc. As far as the two notices placed in newspapers, many things could have happened, but some feel the grandparents put an ad in order to show that he was a citizen of the U.S. with all of the benefits thereto. Everybody, after all, and especially then, wanted to be a United States citizen.
The term used by Ms. Collins-“birther”-is very derogatory and is meant in a derogatory way. Had this been George Bush or almost any other President or Presidential aspirant, they would never have been allowed to attain office, or would have been thrown out of office very quickly.
For some reason, the press protects President Obama beyond anything or anyone I have ever seen. What they don't realize is that if he was not born in the United States, they would have uncovered the greatest "scam" in the history of our country. In other words, they would become the hottest writer since Watergate, or beyond.
Open your eyes, Gail, there's at least a good chance that Barack Hussein Obama has made mincemeat out of our great and cherished Constitution!
DONALD J. TRUMP New York, April 7, 2011
Phillip J Berg a democrat nailed it.
He aint a natural born citizen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWTs1YyhFRg
He is not eligible. His father was a British citizen. What we have are corrupt judges. Nothing he has signed is valid if we had judges with integrity.
Trump is serious, a guy like him especially with his ego, is not going to set himself up where he could possibly get caught with egg on his face. He knows or has something on Bambi and I tell you, the more I read about this, the more I`m convinced Bambi was born in Kenya. In the summer of 1961, his parents durinng summer break from school decided to visit Kenya. That`s all there is to it.
The MSM has no Template yet for Trump. I am sure they will develop one and spend every resource available to investigate him. They meanwhile will never spend a second to actually investigate their Dear Leader.
The Supreme Court is not credible in this instance. They have had many chance’s to hear a case on this and cowardly turned them all down.
By the sounds of things it sounds like we are going to have to elect an outsider this time for President. Someone who values the constitution and someone who is NOT going to take any crap... nobody wobbly. I am very dissapointed in John Boehner this morning. He caved.
For the last 2 years I kept an ear to the birth certificate issue but never really participated in the threads and always figured "surely if any of what they say is true, it will come to light".
So, for the most part I ignored it. If talking with friends I might mention something small about it but very shallow and quick.
These last three weeks I am one of those who has started paying more attention and reading about some of the findings and I do NOT like what I'm reading about records of his. And not just his records but his mothers, grandparents and other members of his family in other countries.
We need to start with the basics of the US Constitution and explain to the average American who exactly can and who cannot be President according to the Constitution. From what I'm reading (if it is true), Americans need to be prepared with this information.
"Legal" may be a misleading term in this case.
The "apparent authority" doctrine means that all persons are entitled to rely on the appearance that "Obama" is President.
So, all actions taken by officers of the government, by Members of Congress, and by judges, pursuant to the belief that "Obama" is President would be legal and not reversible.
Where Obama is born just confuses the issue.Basically to be natural born both his parents had to be citizens of the U.S.It appears that Obama fails this test.
"The issue is much greater than the birth certificate or where Obama was physically born, as he could have been born in the Lincoln bedroom during the Kennedy administration and still be ineligible to hold the office of president under Article II, Section I, Clause 5 of the United States Constitution. Our founders determined that future presidents must be born to two parents who are both U.S. citizens. Clearly then, the place of Obama’s birth is merely one concern, while the citizen aspect of his parents remains another."
The unraveling of Barry Soetoro, a/k/a Barack Hussein Obama II
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