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Jerry Brown: California, Country Facing ‘Regime Crisis’ Similar To The Civil War
CBS LosAngeles ^ | April 10, 2011 | losangeles.cbslocal.com/Dave Bryan

Posted on 04/11/2011 4:02:15 PM PDT by dragnet2

LOS ANGELES (CBS) — While Washington averted a government shutdown this week, California Governor Jerry Brown continues with his budget battles.

The governor may feel like he’s in a recurring nightmare these days. Everywhere he turns with a proposed budget fix it gets shot down.

“If we don’t get taxes, if we don’t get cuts, we’re gonna have a hard time balancing the budget,” Brown said. “Many of the Republicans told me, ‘We’re not taxing and we’re not cutting. It’s your job — you’re the governor.’”

But Republicans who show up to protest at many of the governor’s events these days say it’s Brown who’s not living up to his words.

“Fix it, Governor Brown, and I’ll be the first person that would be more than happy to give you money,” said Robert Ledbetter, who was protesting outside one of Brown’s events.

California Republican Party Vice Chair Steven Baric says Brown is not showing he’s much of a leader.

“He promised he would show true leadership and he’s failing to do that. And if he wants to show true leadership let’s have true pension reform,” Baric said.

this weekend, CBS 2/KCAL 9 political reporter Dave Bryan asked Governor Brown about the criticisms:

DB: Many of the Republicans I talk to say that they’re not convinced that you’re serious about pension reform and about cutting the slack in government, cutting the bureaucracy down. They feel that you haven’t put forward, for example, a meaningful pension reform plan because of your connection to the unions.

JB: They have to say that to give cover to their position, which is ‘No’. Their position is ‘No, we’re not going to help you. We’re not going to do anything. Well, that’s unacceptable. I did propose 12 points of pension reform.

The governor tells Dave he believes the country hasn’t been this divided since the Civil War.

This week Brown has been using Civil War metaphors at his public events to describe the deep divisions in California, and the entire country for that matter, preaching with the passion of a born-again that the country is dangerously polarized.

“We are at a point of civil discord, and I would not minimize the risk to our country and to our state. It is not trivial. I’ve been around a long time, I’m a student of history, I’m a student of contemporary politics. We are facing what I would call a ‘regime crisis.’ The legitimacy of our very democratic institutions are in question,” he said.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: brown; california; demagog; demagogue; divisive; moonbeam
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To: jacquej

I agree, however the Fedgov has become so large, so encompassing and controlling, the states have become like government corporate satellites, with the home office being in D.C. Complete with threats and bribes.

Regarding the human history part...Absolutely!


61 posted on 04/11/2011 5:31:51 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: jacquej

BTW, this interview of Brown, is now currently being covered *at length* by LA radio stations.


62 posted on 04/11/2011 5:39:22 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Jerry skipped the Freeper convention to party with The Eagles?
63 posted on 04/11/2011 5:40:57 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Palin '12 begins in '11. In western New Hampshire pour moi.)
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To: Jim Noble
Brown is exactly correct.

To be honest, even I was surprised Brown stated this:

"We are at a point of civil discord, and I would not minimize the risk to our country and to our state."

64 posted on 04/11/2011 5:44:13 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: forgotten man

I remember that commercial. It was appalling, and turned off a lot of people. There are some who say that commercial cost him the election.

Of course, LBJ did something similar in 1964 with the classless “Daisy” commercial. But he won. In a landslide.


65 posted on 04/11/2011 5:49:08 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

A prime example of a bald haired hippy.


66 posted on 04/11/2011 5:50:08 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month...April.)
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To: forgotten man
In 1966 Brown’s father tried to link Ronald Reagan to slavery in a campaign commercial. The logic was: Lincoln freed the slaves. Lincoln was killed by an actor. Reagan is an actor. Camera pans to the face of a little black child with tears in his eyes. This BS did not work in 1966 and it won’t work in 2011.

By the way, what has that very dated commercial to do with Brown making comments such as this below?

“We are at a point of civil discord, and I would not minimize the risk to our country and to our state.

67 posted on 04/11/2011 5:55:49 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: omegadawn

“California could be led into a civil war, Americans fighting to retake their state from the Mexican invasion. The problem is that obama would support the mexican nationals.”

All true.


68 posted on 04/11/2011 5:58:58 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ought-six
The problem is that obama would support the mexican nationals.”

Bush did the same, why would Obama be any different?

69 posted on 04/11/2011 6:04:48 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dynachrome

Why do you think our troops are in 3 wars now. Huge waste of money and lives. Protecting the scummy Saudis. Eff Em.


70 posted on 04/11/2011 6:07:58 PM PDT by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: dragnet2

“Bush did the same, why would Obama be any different?”

On the illegal immigration question, who said he was?


71 posted on 04/11/2011 6:09:47 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ought-six

I guess it needed to be said, as the glaring hypocrisy in some venues is stunning.


72 posted on 04/11/2011 6:13:24 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dynachrome

I don’t think people in this country are anywhere near fired-up enough for that to happen. They can’t even muster up anger at near-$4 - per gallon gasoline.

So long as there are American Idol, Dancing with the Stars, X-Box, food and beer, the sheeple as a whole will be content enough to meekly accept whatever fate awaits them.


73 posted on 04/11/2011 6:23:06 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: dragnet2
The only thing necessary for a true regime crisis is an alternative.

Someone - a governor, most likely, or someone who wants to be President but who doesn't want to "run" - must declare that the emperor has no clothes.

Then, events may take a surprising course.

74 posted on 04/11/2011 6:25:47 PM PDT by Jim Noble (The Constitution is overthrown. The Revolution is betrayed.)
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To: omegadawn
California could be led into a civil war, Americans fighting to retake their state from the Mexican invasion.

I wish I shared your optimism that enough people in CA would try to take their state back. With 7 million illegals bedding down each night there, along with however millions more "legals" and libs who support them, it's hard to imagine anyone making such a move.

75 posted on 04/11/2011 6:30:06 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: ScottinVA
I don’t think people in this country are anywhere near fired-up enough for that to happen. They can’t even muster up anger at near-$4 - per gallon gasoline. So long as there are American Idol

Can I be honest?

Even here on a conservative site threads regarding "American Idol" go into the thousands, with thread I, II, II etc..

Those who mindlessly follow such cow flop, are likely on the government payroll, very comfortable, shut-ins, or are simply drooling in cups.

That being said, don't be so sure...With tens of millions jobless, millions losing their homes, businesses, investments etc, prices of everything skyrocketing, forced to pay for millions of illegals, standard of living nose diving, massive government corruption etc.....This is no longer simply a bump in the road, or business as usual.

At the rate were going, steady decline.....One can imagine what just another year or two could possibly bring.

76 posted on 04/11/2011 6:39:45 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ought-six
The problem is that obama would support the mexican nationals.”

Would?

He already did - sued AZ to stop enforcement of SB1070.

77 posted on 04/11/2011 6:40:05 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Frantzie

“Huge waste of money and lives”

True that. What is our purpose now in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya? And how many other areas are our troops in after the supposed end of a war? Bosnia comes to mind and that whole region.


78 posted on 04/11/2011 6:43:52 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: dragnet2

California has a line-item veto, so Brown is free to cut as much as he wishes from the budget. Unfortunately, all he wishes to do is raise taxes. (Or perhaps more accurately, re-fight the battle over Prop. 13!)


79 posted on 04/11/2011 6:50:45 PM PDT by Redcloak (What's your zombie plan?)
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To: DuncanWaring
He already did - sued AZ to stop enforcement of SB1070.

And in so-called conservative states, at major hospitals such as Parkland hospital in Dallas Texas, they are churning out nearly 1000 anchor babies per month...At just one single hospital, while millions of illegals are collecting tax paid welfare benefits.

Those aiding and abetting this seem to be everywhere. No?

80 posted on 04/11/2011 6:50:51 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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